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You can try this sample size calculator there : http://www.raosoft.com/samplesize.html

With a population of 5 million, an margin of error of 5% and confidence level of 95% the minimum sample size would be 385. Surveys typically target 3% of margin of error, which would bring the minimum sample size to 1067.

So yeah, this sample is way too small to be used as a headline like this.

Neat tool. Thanks for the link!
 
Replaced the original Retina iPad.
I was going to get the Retina Mini as well when it comes out but the iPad air fits in one hand and I am not really seeing a need for the Mini now. Interesting.

When I showed the Air to my partner he asked if I got the Mini instead.

I got two this morning. My partner was surprised that it wasn't much heavier than his mini and preferred the size much more.

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I love my iPad 2. But none of the iPads after it have been worthy enough for me to upgrade to.

Sorry this one isn't up to your high expectations. It's an incredible machine.

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Played with it at Apple today. Very impressive. I would have brought one home if the Notes app was easier on the eyes. The harsh bright white background of Notes was the dealbreaker.

I'm not a huge iOS 7 fan but I could definitely use it if Notes was the old style. I sent feedback to Apple suggesting it be considered as an accessibility option. Not real hopeful but nothing to lose.

The iPad Air is really something. Check it out.

Just download another notes app for gods sake.

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In other words, the very very early adopters are more likely to be fanboys, who buy everything Apple makes and thus already had iPads.

This isn't new, but it's nice to have proof.

Why are you on these forums again?
 
At some point, people have confused the word fanboy with satisfied customers.

I thought you had to be a fanboy or a simpleton to be satisfied with an Apple product though? Aren't all the sophisticates finding great fault in the user experience, icon choice, and lack of 30 different ports that might some day be used once (but probably not)?
 
It's funny how Apple knows more about the market than people here on the forum. Delaying the mini was a good idea it looks like. More margins. Gold iPhone was a good move. 5c is a cash boon.

Glad the computer chair critics here aren't in charge.

Sure they'll make a quick buck selling toys. But everything is getting dumber. We are finally in viewing distance of Apple being no different than Sony (or any other tech company). Apple is quickly running out of things that distinguishes itself as a company. The question is no longer "when will apple get back on track?" but instead "who will take their place?"
 
Of course they own other iPads. Every single iPad I've ever owned has been handed down to my kids. My wife was the only other one that got a new iPad. When the mini retina comes out, I'm buying that and passing my original mini to my daughter.
 
Don't think this bodes well for future sales of iPad if the majority are repeat buyers. Apple needs new buyers to make this product cycle a success.

It's been out in the US for all of 10 hours. I don't think that's a great sampling size. It's really not surprising that launch day buyers are Apple enthusiasts, previous iPad owners, etc.
 
I love my iPad 2. But none of the iPads after it have been worthy enough for me to upgrade to.

I suppose everybody is different, but I was disappointed with my iPad 2. Magazines took up more space than I anticipated, so the 16 GB was no good. The screen was just Ok, but not great after having the iPhone 4's Retina for 8 months. Using it on the road was tough, always hunting for Wi-Fi. The body was fairly light, but too indiscreet for my taste and with sharp corners.

Having said all that, I'm going to give it another shot. An iPad Mini with Retina display, 32 GB, and free T-Mobile data should address every one of those complaints :)
 
It's good to have more devices out but it would be much better for developers if these were new customers instead of prexsisting customers.
 
A few years ago I stated the iPhone and later the iPad would be a product that would create an "annuity" for Apple. That "annuity" would have value well beyond the market share and sales on it's face. Not many companies have had that factor in their company value.

Apple does. They should go private right now.

Rocketman
 
Sure they'll make a quick buck selling toys. But everything is getting dumber. We are finally in viewing distance of Apple being no different than Sony (or any other tech company). Apple is quickly running out of things that distinguishes itself as a company. The question is no longer "when will apple get back on track?" but instead "who will take their place?"

How so?
 
It's funny how Apple knows more about the market than people here on the forum. Delaying the mini was a good idea it looks like. More margins. Gold iPhone was a good move. 5c is a cash boon.

Glad the computer chair critics here aren't in charge.
We're all amateurs and Apple has professionals making these decisions. But it doesn't stop us from making lots of noise!
 
You can try this sample size calculator there : http://www.raosoft.com/samplesize.html

With a population of 5 million, an margin of error of 5% and confidence level of 95% the minimum sample size would be 385. Surveys typically target 3% of margin of error, which would bring the minimum sample size to 1067.

So yeah, this sample is way too small to be used as a headline like this.

Wow. Did they just stand in front of one store in one country? Maybe I should have asked 71 buyers in London and doubled the accuracy. And maybe repeated the survey a week later to see how the stats differed.

What a useless survey.

I confidently predict the percentages of existing owners for the iPad Mini Retina will be different. Either higher or lower.
 
71 people in a survey isn't that many. But OBVIOUSLY when a product has been on the market for a number of years, it will tend to get saturated as far as the retail stores, but Munster should be looking at corporate purchases instead.

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Good for Apple, bad for developers...

Only if the developer doesn't come up with lots of different apps. If they just have one app that they rely on for revenue, then that's kind of limiting themselves to begin with. But Apple still has some markets to open up. There are still plenty of people that are still on the fence about jumping into the tablet market and I don't think they are that big of a hurry to do so.
 
I got the iPad Air for this reason: my iPad 2 was starting to get long in the tooth.

After using it for an hour or so, two things I noticed:

1. The leap up from 1024 x 768 to full Retina Display resolution results in much higher sharpness on even complex graphics.

2. The new iPad feels feather light compared to my old iPad 2.
 
It's good to have more devices out but it would be much better for developers if these were new customers instead of prexsisting customers.


Good for Apple, bad for developers...

Ok.

Did the development and sales terms change when the iPad Air came out? Did you stop selling apps? Last time I checked, apps tied to a user ID have always been the case. All of a sudden it's an issue? Good for Apple, bad for developers? More like good for consumers, sort of bad for developers, if you're greedy. You're assuming that every person that owns an iPad and bought a new iPad already owned your app which would be incorrect.

There is opportunity everywhere to sell your app. When you hit 100% market share than you can complain about how you've been slighted.
 
The problem is that a lot of people that don't own a tablet aren't usually the ones standing in line for days trying to get one, they usually hang back until the line die down.

Apple tracks what the REAL numbers are, but I seem to remember them talking about 50% of the users are returning customers, 25% are switchers and 25% are new computer users. I don't know what products these numbers represent, but obviously, it could apply to both their OS X based products and iOS based products, only always slightly different depending on the product but overall pretty close.
 
My girlfriend has iPad 1 and I have the first retina iPad (3?). Not upgrading anytime soon. All those upgrades seem to be incredibly boring and bring nothing new to the table unless your iPad is way too slow for things you do.
 
Funny, the quote fails to drop the other shoe: and that is when the majority of new buyer have an iPad already, the old iPad goes into the secondary market, expanding the reach of iTunes farther.

For a fun exercise, look at your local Craigslist ads to see what asking prices are for used iPads. They are not coming down as you might expect. Even Gen 1 iPad asking prices are higher than for some new-in-the-box Android tablets.
 
My girlfriend has iPad 1 and I have the first retina iPad (3?). Not upgrading anytime soon. All those upgrades seem to be incredibly boring and bring nothing new to the table unless your iPad is way too slow for things you do.
The obverse of that is the iPad2 is adequate for "most people". This claim is reinforced by actual sales.

Rocketman
 
My girlfriend has iPad 1 and I have the first retina iPad (3?). Not upgrading anytime soon. All those upgrades seem to be incredibly boring and bring nothing new to the table unless your iPad is way too slow for things you do.

The weight difference is the key this time. Check it out in person! There is obviously a physics limit built into our arms.
 
Played with it at Apple today. Very impressive. I would have brought one home if the Notes app was easier on the eyes. The harsh bright white background of Notes was the dealbreaker.

I'm not a huge iOS 7 fan but I could definitely use it if Notes was the old style. I sent feedback to Apple suggesting it be considered as an accessibility option. Not real hopeful but nothing to lose.

The iPad Air is really something. Check it out.

You should try the "App Store", it's a store where you can buy all sorts of apps like games, tools, productivity apps including alternatives to "Notes" - like "Evernote" for example. I'm sure there will be some sort of app where you can set the background to "Forestall post-it yellow" if required. Good luck.
 
In other words, the very very early adopters are more likely to be fanboys, who buy everything Apple makes and thus already had iPads.

This isn't new, but it's nice to have proof.

and then there are the haters who come here to niggle because their lives are so boring that they have to care about what other people own and get all sweaty about it.
 
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