Try surviving in China for a week without WeChat. That's a challenge, man!
Now try to convince a Chinese to buy a phone which can't run WeChat. Good luck!
Now try to convince a Chinese to buy a phone which can't run WeChat. Good luck!
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No Chinese Android OEMs use the Google Play Services libraries, and never have - the Chinese government does not permit devices using those libraries to be sold in China. So there are local alternatives (a non-trivial amount of which is handled by Wechat themselves), usually handled by the larger OEMs.
There are twenty or so major Chinese app stores, and 19 of them are run by Chinese companies. Trump can't stop them. The only non-Chinese one is run by Samsung, who are Korean owned, so Trump can't do much there either (he can stop Samsung's US operations from dealing with Tencent, but not their Korean ones, because the US arm is owned by the Korean company, not the other way around as it is with Apple).
You’re halfway correct. It matters where Apple is headquartered. If they were based in Switzerland, this action by the Trump administration would only have effect for the U.S. operations of Apple and Apple could still include WeChat and TikTok in China (although, the administration could likely put pressure on the company by restricting their ability to do business in the United States unless they complied with the order; this is because Apple would then be importing products as a non-U.S. company).
Because Apple is U.S.-based, they have to follow U.S. laws broadly, which could result in worldwide removal of the apps.
This ban is not going to happen though.
Most of them are probably using a knockoff iPhone that is really a skinned version of Android 😂
Those closed source parts are all Google apps or services. Continue Googling and come back to converse once you're actually familiar with the subject.
one issue is the average user won’t be side loading apps. They will just search the Play Store and not find WeChat.
Or worst search online and sideload malware passing for the actual WeChat.
Epic tried to host Formite outside the Play store ant at the end had togive up and have it available I’m the play store.
Why are you trying to go into the weeds with your argument?
You claimed, "Google could pull the plug on those Chinese companies for Android."
That simply isn't the case. Google couldn't and it wouldn't stop WeChat.
You literally just described iOS. Or Android.
People are talking in circles. China likes having one app for everything. Okay, that's fine. Outside of China, we like having operating systems where we can choose the apps we want, that work best for any particular situation.
Banning US companies from doing business with Tencent in general and not only limited to WeChat would have a much broader impact. Tencent is:
- Owner of Riot Games (Valorant, League of Legends).
- Shareholder of Epic Games (Fortnite).
- Shareholder of Activision Blizzard (Call of Duty, Diablo, Warcraft, Overwatch...).
- Shareholder of Spotify.
It breaks down pretty simple. For Chinese folks:
Open source android + wechat > any closed source android or iPhone without wechat.
Add huawei to the equation and you have a likely perfectly sufficient alternative to US control from now and in perpetuity.
The thing is, how many people use WeChat outside of China? And how is that threat to 'national security'?
The average user in China doesn't use the Play Store. They download apps from the device manufacturer's app store - whether that's Oppo, Vivo, or Huawei App Gallery.
Outside China, consumers can go to wechat.com and sideload the app.
WeChat itself is like an operating system.
There are over 1 million mini-apps within WeChat. Everyone from McDonald's to Tesla has a mini-app in WeChat.
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India totally ban Chinese Apps from operating in India. Best Trump can do is ban so called Chinese Apps from operating in USA and firewall USA users to access from inside USA. After that, European will follow and than rest of world.
So, it basically Chinese apps on IOS or Android operating within China for Chinese users. Long as they don't steal rest of world's data and misuse it; who cares what happens inside China,stays inside China.
So, it basically Chinese apps on IOS or Android operating within China for Chinese users. Long as they don't steal rest of world's data and misuse it; who cares what happens inside China,stays inside China.
because all of this effort from trump is farce, election is coming up and he needs to look like hes tough on china to get his constituents confidence.
'Make America great again.'
By trying to ruin Apple. Such complex divine logic we cannot understand.
The Chinese Communist Party could not harm America more effectively.
Well, it'll be over soon.
By trying to ruin Apple. Such complex divine logic we cannot understand.
The Chinese Communist Party could not harm America more effectively.
Well, it'll be over soon.
Because the monkey in the White House says so... I’ve asked multiple times in other threads and no one was able to provide forensic evidence. The reality is, it isn’t. They collect data, similar to what Facebook, Google and others do. I’ve posted in another thread what data TikTok is collecting. Difference is, no access for the US and that’s why they want it gone. And after all, it’s China, so it must be evil...
Yes, that’s kind of my point. People here are thinking of WeChat as just another app. It’s more like a whole platform. Most of us in North America don’t casually switch between iOS and Android after being invested in one for several years, and in this case it would be even more inconvenient because from what I understand pretty much every smartphone user in China uses WeChat and many of their mobile services are based around it. There is no other app that can substitute for that.
It’s not just those comment
Yeah but we’re talking about international sales of Android phones. Not what’s inside China... If Google wants to not longer vend and support their open source initiative they are free to do that... Pretty sure lots of ve
Yeah but then because of the lag time Huawei needed to replace the closed source code they have to compete with Samsung which does have WeChat. So they are significantly disadvantaged now
This could be hurting Apple, also, if WeChat is not banned this round, for the future, it will give Chinese government ideas on how to bring down Apple or any western technology companies.
Nope. That wouldn't be very good. Imagine that China will now actually develop its own OS. Of course they can. And Windows dies and macOS loses as well. That would hardly be a step into a better world.
But I agree with you. The current political stupidities accelerate such developments massively.
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