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[A] The Agency GAME OVER -- AGENTS WIN

Wow, I've missed a lot. How dare work get in the way of my online social gaming! :D

Okay, based on the potential evidence and our best educated guesses, DP, Moyank, and Twietee are all seemingly safe. Therefore, they should make up the core of each team going forward. I still think it's best to avoid QOS, Fenris, and myself by default due to the results of mission #1. That would mean we need to pick 2 team members from TechGod, Astroboy907, and Koodauw.
 
twietee said:
No intention of bugging you QoS, but why are you among the most cleared (objectively speaking)?

Personally, I have a good feeling with Astroboay and Woody so far. Maybe nay this one and get him on board? What are your thougths @DP and Moyank
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I'm not, but *I* know that I'm an Agent. Any team that does not include me has to be a "perfect" 5/5 of all the rest of the Agents. Which means I'm pretty much going to be nay-ing them unless people can clear the members further.

Like the above team. I mean, fine. I don't have anything more to provide you at this point, so I'm not going to keep beating the drum. But the selection above leaves no room for error since I'm not on it.
 
Queen of Spades said:
I'm not, but *I* know that I'm an Agent. Any team that does not include me has to be a "perfect" 5/5 of Agents. Which means I'm pretty much going to be nay-ing them unless people can clear the members further.
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I'd have preferred you over Koodauw tbh, so not sure what to do now myself. Next three in line are Mo, DP and me which should please Fenris but is a bit of a big bummer imo. Much/everything depends on how ravenvii deals with the plots.

ninja'd: great one!!
 
twietee said:
I'd have preferred you over Koodauw tbh, so not sure what to do now myself. Next three in line are Mo, DP and me which should please Fenris but is a bit of a big bummer imo. Much/everything depends on how ravenvii deals with the plots.

ninja'd: great one!!
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Well, that's something. I'm not entirely sure how to proceed. I guess we're only at one nay'd mission, so we don't need to worry about the 5x just yet. But I don't like the odds for an Agent team without me on it, and I'll proceed accordingly.
 
Queen of Spades said:
Well, that's something. I'm not entirely sure how to proceed. I guess we're only at one nay'd mission, so we don't need to worry about the 5x just yet. But I don't like the odds for an Agent team without me on it, and I'll proceed accordingly.
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You probably should. I would.

That would have been the benefit of giving Strong Leadership to mscriv: resting assured that all three (supposedly) cleared agents are on the mission plus the next two less suspicious. Btw, ravenvii: what happens afterwards in case the last in line strong leaderships? Does it jump back to who was next before?
 
It does seem to be quite a pivotal point in the game. I can find reason to doubt just about everyone with the exception of DP, Twietee, and Moyank. This makes voting very difficult.

@Queen of Spades, just to clarify, as I understand the rules the nay'd missions rule is not cumulative, but consecutive. I believe @ravenvii answered that question previously.
 
Mission 1 Summary
Mission Failed

Team Leader: Koodauw
Team Members: Don't Panic, Moyank24, Queen of Spades, mscriv, FenrisMoonlight

Mission Votes
yay: 5 TechGod, mscriv, Moyank24, Queen of Spades, Astroboy907
nay: 4 WoodNUFC, twietee, Don't Panic, FenrisMoonlight

Plot card distribution
Evesdrop -> Moyank24
No Confidence -> QoS
Spy -> mscriv

Plots played
Moyank24, eavesdrop on DP => Agent

Plots still in play
No Confidence => QoS
mscriv => Spy

Mission Analysis
4/5 Success, 1/5 Failure. Therefore at least 1 infiltrator amongst Don't Panic, Moyank24, Queen of Spades, mscriv, FenrisMoonlight.

Most likely infiltrators: QoS, mscriv, Moyank24, Don't Panic, FenrisMoonlight

mscriv spy on Moyank24 - she voted Success.


Mission 2.1
Mission cancelled - no confidence

Team Leader: Astroboy
Team Members: Don't Panic, Moyank24, Twietee, WoodNUFC, mscriv

Mission Votes
yay: 5 TechGod, twietee, WoodNUFC, Don't Panic, Moyank24
nay: 2 FenrisMoonlight, Queen of Spades

Plot card distribution
Evesdrop -> Don't Panic
Strong Leader -> WoodNUFC
No confidence -> Moyank24

Plots played
DP, eavesdrop on Twitee => Agent
QoS, No confidence => mission aborted

Plots sill in play
Strong Leader -> WoodNUFC
No confidence -> Moyank24

Mission 2.2
In Progress

Team Leader: WoodNUFC
Team Members: Don't Panic, Moyank, Twietee, Astroboy907, Koodauw


Agent Analysis
Likely Agents: Don't Panic, Twietee, Moyank24, QoS, FenrisMoonlight, WoodNUFC
Likely Infilitrators: mscriv, TechGod, Astroboy907, Koodauw
 
mscriv said:
It does seem to be quite a pivotal point in the game. I can find reason to doubt just about everyone with the exception of DP, Twietee, and Moyank. This makes voting very difficult.

@Queen of Spades, just to clarify, as I understand the rules the nay'd missions rule is not cumulative, but consecutive. I believe @ravenvii answered that question previously.
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I know, that's why I said we were only at 1 - the last mission. We're at 2 back to back if this current mission fails to go forward.

My vote is nay.
 
I'm going with yay for now. We need plot points as well and having DP and Mo on the team as well should somewhat minimize the chances of having a traitor among Astro and Koodauw.
 
Queen of Spades said:
How?
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Next Leaders are Mo, DP and Me, means only two of us are on a mission. I'd rather have 2/7 than 3/7 uncertain players.

I'm also aware that in the end nobody is cleared so far but the odds are better, also mo did vote sucess, so there is one among the others. DP should be kept on a separate note so that makes it minimum one traitor among you, mscriv and fenris. From them I'd be most comfortable with you but between e.g Astroboy (partial because of his votes), Woodnuff, Koodauw and TechGod it's basically a dice roll for me.
 
twietee said:
You probably should. I would.

That would have been the benefit of giving Strong Leadership to mscriv: resting assured that all three (supposedly) cleared agents are on the mission plus the next two less suspicious. Btw, ravenvii: what happens afterwards in case the last in line strong leaderships? Does it jump back to who was next before?
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why would mscriv be better than wood in this?
as far as what happens when the plot is used, we go back the previous rotation. basically the strong leader is inserted into the rotation before the next one, who is simply delayed (post #56)
 
Queen of Spades said:
*I* know that I'm an Agent. Any team that does not include me has to be a "perfect" 5/5 of all the rest of the Agents. Which means I'm pretty much going to be nay-ing them unless people can clear the members further.
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I'm going to call this line of reasoning the "QOS" rule. It's a valid argument for any agent player and based on that I'll have to vote NAY as well.
 
mscriv said:
I'm going to call this line of reasoning the "QOS" rule. It's a valid argument for any agent player and based on that I'll have to vote NAY as well.
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That rule was established the first day already though ;)

Don't panic said:
why would mscriv be better than wood in this?
as far as what happens when the plot is used, we go back the previous rotation. basically the strong leader is inserted into the rotation before the next one, who is simply delayed (post #56)
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Because I trust wood more than mscriv (and thought it would go on from mscriv then, thx for pointing that out as I missed it) and would prefer wood on the team instead. And to counter Fenris' argument once more: if we should e.g. trust DP (or me, probably Mo) that much the respective teamleader could just ask beforehand what list DP would do and voilà. That's what I would do when we have a cleared player although that counters a bit the original premise of the game. We have to grasp everything we can use now (also one more reason to fully clear Moyank).
 
twietee said:
That rule was established the first day already though ;)
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True, but QOS more eloquently stated it than the rest of you. :cool:

twietee said:
Because I trust wood more than mscriv
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As far as your doubts about me...

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twietee said:
That rule was established the first day already though ;)



Because I trust wood more than mscriv (and thought it would go on from mscriv then, thx for pointing that out as I missed it) and would prefer wood on the team instead. And to counter Fenris' argument once more: if we should e.g. trust DP (or me, probably Mo) that much the respective teamleader could just ask beforehand what list DP would do and voilà. That's what I would do when we have a cleared player although that counters a bit the original premise of the game. We have to grasp everything we can use now (also one more reason to fully clear Moyank).
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but you would have no guarantees that mscriv would put wood, and viceversa. your reasoning is sound with cleared players, but neither wood nor mscriv are cleared at this point. both have at least 50% chance of being an Infi, possibly significantly more
 
Don't panic said:
but you would have no guarantees that mscriv would put wood, and viceversa. your reasoning is sound with cleared players, but neither wood nor mscriv are cleared at this point. both have at least 50% chance of being an Infi, possibly significantly more
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Of course, that's just a gut decision. woodNUFC did vote nay day1 though plus mscriv's use of the Spy didn't establish much confidence either.

There is no guarantee, but now it's impossible to have wood on the team. You'd want have to have the perfect team now and I'd feel better to go on a mission with him. Astroboy voted yay day1 and Koodauw, well, he doesn't like me..
 
mscriv said:
I'm going to call this line of reasoning the "QOS" rule. It's a valid argument for any agent player and based on that I'll have to vote NAY as well.
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Ironic you're voting Nay because the 2 "other" players he put on the team are 2/3 people you recommended he put on the team (7 minutes later I might add).

Why wouldn't you at least suggest yourself?
 
^ya, got it already :D (if about the +50%)

Just noticed there are 3 times No Confidents plots. We should proceed, gather the plots and just look what ravenii hands out. If we feel really uncomfortable we should cancel the mission. No point in gambling.
 
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