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[A] The Agency GAME OVER -- AGENTS WIN
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I am a bit hesitant but this team is 4/5 of what i would have put down, and the 5th i am not sure about anyway, so i'll go YAY again.
if things seem to get fishy hopefully Moyank can use her get-out-of-jail-card
fenris, QoS and mscriv all used the same (relatively valid) argument for nay'ing. unfortunately, one of them did vote "fail" on mission one (unless it was moyank)
if things seem to get fishy hopefully Moyank can use her get-out-of-jail-card
fenris, QoS and mscriv all used the same (relatively valid) argument for nay'ing. unfortunately, one of them did vote "fail" on mission one (unless it was moyank)
Do you want to gamble with a second failed mission on them?
If it goes through and fails, the only hope we'll have left is that we put the suspicious members on the next team and hope the right plots come up. Get more intel and then kill the mission.
i was more of the idea that we start this one see/use the plots and then we evaluate whether to kill it or not with your no-confidence. it goes to 2 nays and you are up next
why would you ever put all the suspicious ones on a team?
Look at it this way: if you're an agent you know that 3/5 are 100% clear (from your perspective). The chances to clear at least one more, possibly even two are still there. Then we can decide if we should 'gamble' and clear one (or both if possible) of the other two and cross fingers that you and DP are telling the truth.
If you nay this mission you have only 2/5 cleared players and have to go with your gut mostly for the rest.
Pretty confident we should proceed while knowing we still have your cop-out plot. In the end that would at least give us 6 new plots at the second mission - more info and minimum 3 more the crucial third one - which will most likely be lead by either DP or me.
Another reason to proceed is that all three upcoming plots can be possibly given to cleared players (your perspective of course).
That was misworded. My brain is not working correctly.
I meant hope the team gets the right plots so we can start clearing suspicious members. I'm the next team leader, so you and Twietee will be the only 2 "cleared" members. Before you respond, twietee, I know for sure that DP is an agent.
The yays have it.
Here are the plots:
No Confidence
Take Responsibility
Under Surveillance
I'm getting sick of No Confidence. What gives, random.org?!
Anyway... @WoodNUFC, distribute the plots to your team!
Here are the plots:
No Confidence
Take Responsibility
Under Surveillance
I'm getting sick of No Confidence. What gives, random.org?!
Anyway... @WoodNUFC, distribute the plots to your team!
I get me and QoS but why Astroboy? I've got him on my more suspicious list because of his voting mission 1
Not bad. Under Surveilance is pretty strong for the second match. Put Koodauw under surveilance? And proceed?
If we cancel this one we will have possibly two instead of one uncertain players.
edit: but yep, no confidence is made in heaven, not sure about cancellation. What do others think?
If we cancel this one we will have possibly two instead of one uncertain players.
edit: but yep, no confidence is made in heaven, not sure about cancellation. What do others think?
under surveillance should go to Astroboy or Koodauw - try to keep a potential infiltrator honest - although it means they could just vote success until they thought it was necessary to vote failure to fail a mission.
It also means if you allow this mission to go ahead as it is, you would fairly certainly know who voted failure if the mission failed - since we can be fairly sure DP, Moyank and Twietee will vote success. IMO this is probably our best chance to get a mission success atm - 3 clearish players as team members along with 1 under surveillance and 1 unknown.
agree about no confidence and take responsibility to you and Twietee.
It also means if you allow this mission to go ahead as it is, you would fairly certainly know who voted failure if the mission failed - since we can be fairly sure DP, Moyank and Twietee will vote success. IMO this is probably our best chance to get a mission success atm - 3 clearish players as team members along with 1 under surveillance and 1 unknown.
agree about no confidence and take responsibility to you and Twietee.
Agreed. With Me and DP coming up as team leaders going in with 1 question mark is better than going in with 2.
Any reason for preferring Koodauw to Astroboy as the one to put under surveilance?
Well, ravenvii will curse us but we could just cancel this and then go on mission with WoodNUFC leading (strong leadershipping). That should give us better chances to clear one other. It's important, that under surveilance loses every power if we lose the next one.
We could also cancel this + the next one and WoodNUFC strong leaderships the third. By then we should be able to clear you (DP and me) + one other + the player under surveilance. Boring play somewhat but best odds to win the second and lose some serious pressure (would be quite hard for traitors to win the game then I fancy
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Not really. Slightly better vibes from Astroboy (despite his vote day1) somehow. Doesn't really matter I guess.
I was just considering the same thing. Abuse the no confidence to get more plot cards and see who we clear then rest back to WoodNUFC proposing a similar team depending on who we've cleared at that point.Well, ravenvii will curse us but we could just cancel this and then go on mission with WoodNUFC leading (strong leadershipping). That should give us better chances to clear one other. It's important, that under surveilance loses every power if we lose the next one.
We could also cancel this + the next one and WoodNUFC strong leaderships the third. By then we should be able to clear you (DP and me) + one other + the player under surveilance. Boring play somewhat but best odds to win the second and lose some serious pressure (would be quite hard for traitors to win the game then I fancy
ok - just wondering since both you and DP seem to have Astroboy as slightly more trustworthy than Koodauw whereas I have them the other way round.
Interesting plots:
I think you all make very good points. I can't argue with the strategy you've laid out.
Here are my choices:
No Confidence - DP
Take Responsibility - Twietee
Under Surveillance - Koodauw
I've selected Koodauw as the player to be under surveillance, because the team he selected failed it's mission and I feel that keeping an eye on him will help the agency. If he selected a co-infiltrator to be on his team in round 1, that means he will be under pressure to vote success in further missions; otherwise, we simply stop selecting him to go on missions. It could make his future selection more secure for the agency.
I think you all make very good points. I can't argue with the strategy you've laid out.
Here are my choices:
No Confidence - DP
Take Responsibility - Twietee
Under Surveillance - Koodauw
I've selected Koodauw as the player to be under surveillance, because the team he selected failed it's mission and I feel that keeping an eye on him will help the agency. If he selected a co-infiltrator to be on his team in round 1, that means he will be under pressure to vote success in further missions; otherwise, we simply stop selecting him to go on missions. It could make his future selection more secure for the agency.
Don't want to edit. Off to bed but to clarify:
We could also cancel this + the next one and WoodNUFC strong leaderships the third one (second match still). By then we should be able to clear you (DP and me) + one other + keep the player under surveilance. Boring play somewhat but best odds to win the second and lose some serious pressure (would be quite hard for traitors to win the game then I fancy
Um, guys. I realized that my maths sucks, and we're going to likely run out of cards. We can either just stop distributing plots when it runs out, or I can add in a few more (this would wildly push the balance over to the agents' side though).
Sorry guys, remember that this is very much a beta!
EDIT: You have it. Plots distributed.
Team members, vote on whether this mission succeeds or not. @Koodauw, instead of PMing me like everyone else, you will post in the thread.
Sorry guys, remember that this is very much a beta!
EDIT: You have it. Plots distributed.
Team members, vote on whether this mission succeeds or not. @Koodauw, instead of PMing me like everyone else, you will post in the thread.
Note by doing that we would have pulled out all the cards by that point and we would only get 1 more for the rest of the missions.
It means Moyank/DP would get to distribute the rest of the cards and they should choose their teams accordingly knowing the plan is to no confidence the mission anyway (so include people based on who they want to clear) - i.e. to give the expose and identification verification cards to when they pop up.