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Its a shame that they removed the "no animation"-bug, my iPhone 6 felt so incredible fast using that bug, imagine using an iPhone 7 with that bug :eek:

Are you running iOS 10? The animations are a little faster compared to iOS 9.
 
What's the meaningless bit? The 2 smaller cores aren't adding much to performance, they're for power savings. The 2 bigger cores are comparable (for all intents and purposes) to the dual cores in the past several Ax chips. So, it should be very meaningful to compare to previous iPhones.
This is basically Apple's implication of BIG.little:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_big.LITTLE
 
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Its a bit meaningless as the 4 cores will virtually never all be pumping out full power - that's the whole point - supposed to be running minimally and cool where possible.

Actually the purpose of the big.LITTLE ARM architecture that Apple is employing on the A10 is to both increase maximum performance in times of full CPU utilization (all 4 cores utilized) *and* power savings at times of low CPU utilization (only low-power cores utilized).
 
I wonder how well MacOS runs on the new A10? You KNOW they're running it already for several years just like 10.0 was shadowed developed on Intel the same time as PPC.
I'm waiting for Apple to announce new iMac and Mini devices that run on this new "desktop class" CPU. Can't be much longer folks.
 
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If this is indeed legitimate, it confirms that the iPhone 7 Plus has 3 GB of RAM.

Party time! I was really hoping this would turn out to be true. More RAM than the 9.7 iPad Pro, lol.

For reference Samsung Note 7 clocks in at 6000 on multi-core test.

... and still far slower than last year's iPhone in real life. Optimization, baby!

I have a 6. My instincts tell me to leave it on IOS9 and that 10 will choke my phone pretty badly. For those that have tested 10....opinions?

Runs fine on my 6, maybe just a tiny bit slower, but basic processes and apps are still pretty much instant. I've actually had less bugs with the latest beta than I did with iOS 9.

At this point, these numbers (for any phone benchmark) are meaningless.
The real world observational differences in typical day to day use would be unnoticeable.

There was a time you'd see a difference, but over the last 5 years phones are so fast, no one will see any kind of difference.

I would disagree... The numbers certainly don't tell the whole story, but they are a very good indicator of speed when you're comparing Apples to Apples :D Try using a 5-year old iPhone with iOS 10, you'd certainly see a difference!
 
Are you running iOS 10? The animations are a little faster compared to iOS 9.
Still far, far, far more sluggish than the bug, unfortunately.

There is an option in the settings for "reduce motion" (or whatever it is called in the english version), i wish that setting was the "no animation"-bug, don't know why Apple don't do that because the iPhone would easily be crowned as the most responsive phone in the human history ;)
 
The A9 is still faster than the Snapdragon 820, and now this.

But because Apple doesn't change the phone's shape, it is clear that Apple is not INNOVATIVE! Apple should be like Samsung, putting random features like iris scanner (that is more cumbersome to use). That's innovation!
 
If this is indeed legitimate, it confirms that the iPhone 7 Plus has 3 GB of RAM.

This is what I came here to ask. I don't mind a bigger phone if the 7 Plus has the better camera, battery life AND more RAM, it'll be a no-brainer. If RAM is the same, I'll have to reconsider.
 
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At this point, these numbers (for any phone benchmark) are meaningless.
The real world observational differences in typical day to day use would be unnoticeable.

There was a time you'd see a difference, but over the last 5 years phones are so fast, no one will see any kind of difference.

Not so sure about that. I can definitely feel the difference in speed between my iPad Air 2 vs my iPhone 6S/SE. But when comparing my 6S vs SE not so much. So it is helpful when comparing different devices from different generations. And seeing how the iPhone 6/6 Plus performs worst than my iPad Air 2 people should feel a nice jump when they go to the iPhone 7.
So while I might not feel a huge difference in speed compared to my 6S/SE, the iPhone 7 Plus will be my first Plus model. It's actually going to replace my iPad Air 2.
 
Ludicrous benchmarks. What Apple have achieved with their A series chips is absolutely stunning. They utterly spank the competition; both in real-world performance, and in benchmarks. The hand-over-fist jumps in performance per generation are utterly unprecedented in this industry.

Boy, if they figure out how to emulate the x86 instruction set without a noticeable performance deficit…
 
For reference Samsung Note 7 clocks in at 6000 on multi-core test.

http://gsminsider.com/2016/08/samsung-galaxy-note-7-benchmark-scores-antutu-and-geekbench-3/

Edit: That was geekbench 3. Geekbench 4's number is 4652 for Note 7

If these iPhone 7 Plus numbers are correct, then the new iPhone will utterly destroy everything any Android maker has ever produced in raw performance.

According to GeekBench's website, the iPhone 7 Plus is over twice as fast in single-core performance as the Samsung Galaxy S7 (U.S. model) and 40% faster in multi-core performance.
Comparing it to the faster international Galaxy S7, the iPhone still leads by 79% and 3%, respectively.

Considering that single-core performance has a much larger impact in day-to-day performance, it's easy to see why the iPhone will be miles ahead of the competition in terms of speed.

Also, if the 3GB of RAM is true, that will have a huge effect on the performance as well.
Although the S7 has 4GB of memory, that's running Android's memory-hungry garbage-collector style memory management, which wastes most of the available memory and results in inferior performance. With 3GB, the iPhone will have much more free, ready-to-use memory available most of the time, than the S7.
 
The A9 is still faster than the Snapdragon 820, and now this.

But because Apple doesn't change the phone's shape, it is clear that Apple is not INNOVATIVE! Apple should be like Samsung, putting random features like iris scanner (that is more cumbersome to use). That's innovation!
Iris Engine.:rolleyes: Apple's new car will not be battery powered.:eek::p:D That's innovation.;)
 
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Right, so this has a better single-core score than the quad-core i7 sitting in my 2012 MacBook Pro. In a phone with no fan. In a mobile device, that you hold in one hand.

And half the multiscore, but half the cores.

That's utterly insane. How in the world some people here aren't blown away… it's beyond me. I can't contemplate how the haters think the way they do.

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Just barely bit it counts! Curious what the next iPad will look like.
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Right, so this has a better single-core score than the quad-core i7 sitting in my 2012 MacBook Pro. In a phone with no fan. In a mobile device, that you hold in one hand.

And half the multiscore, but half the cores.

That's utterly insane. How in the world some people here aren't blown away… it's beyond me. I can't contemplate how the haters think the way they do.
I don't know if I would be considered a hater, but I'd still like to try and answer your question.

For me it's not an issue of numbers not clearly being better. It's an issue of being given something I didn't need and that I can't imagine myself clearly benefiting from. I'm coming from the 6s plus. You can tell me and prove to me the processor is 40% faster, but as I type this in iOS 10 beta on my 6s plus I wonder how that will noticeably effect my life. I just don't see how it would.

This is why I like to say that things need to be meaningfully better. Being simply better isn't a compelling enough reason for me to spend another $800 on a phone this year.

I think part of my feeling has to do with how good of s phone I find the 6s plus (and maybe how bad the 6 plus was for me). No hate here. Just a lot more love for a model of iPhone then I've ever had. This year I'd personally be giving up more than I'm gaining.
 
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For me it's not an issue of numbers not clearly being better. It's an issue of being given something I didn't need. I'm coming from the 6s plus. You can tell me and prove to me the processor is 40% faster, but as I type this in iOS 10 beta on my 6s plus I wonder how that will noticeably effect my life. I just don't see how it would.

I both agree and disagree.

Will this make iOS much better? Doubtful. I think that we can agree on.

However, let's take a step back here. We've got a fanless chip, running in a handheld device, designed by Apple, that has comparative per-core performance to a mobile quad-core i7. The potential repercussions for this and the sheer limitless possibilities are something to definitely get excited about.

It is my belief that in the next 5 years, Apple computers will truly once again become Apple computers. In-house designed chips. In-house designed pipeline. In-house OS optimisation. In-house hardware. In-house software. And they will completely destroy anything else on the market.
 
I both agree and disagree.

Will this make iOS much better? Doubtful. I think that we can agree on.

However, let's take a step back here. We've got a fanless chip, running in a handheld device, designed by Apple, that has comparative per-core performance to a mobile quad-core i7. The potential repercussions for this and the sheer limitless possibilities are something to definitely get excited about.

It is my belief that in the next 5 years, Apple computers will truly once again become Apple computers. In-house designed chips. In-house designed pipeline. In-house OS optimisation. In-house hardware. In-house software. And they will completely destroy anything else on the market.
This is all fair. I'm just saying what pushes me to purchase a new phone today.

I can fully accept the engineering fest of something like this while still being able to say that Apple gave me no reason to spend my hard earned money today. That's not synonymous with "the iPhone 7 sucks", mind you. It just doesn't have anything to give me.

I say this all and yet the camera is something I could clearly benefit from. But not enough to justify the expense.
 
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