A10 Fusion Chip in iPhone 7 Plus Outperforms iPad Pro's A9X in Benchmark Tests

[LegacyH6]

And destroys any other device

Apple fans getting carried away a bit here, no one mentioned (funnily enough) that the IPhone 7+ uses an ancient relic of a display whereas most new Androids (including the note 7 mentioned here) have QHD displays (Note 7 with 518DPI) which hardly surprising take more processing power to achieve the same scores on GeekBench.

Run the Apple GeekBench tests on a QHD display and how would they fare?

Just sayin...

 

[Feenician]

Apple fans getting carried away a bit here, no one mentioned (funnily enough) that the IPhone 7+ uses an ancient relic of a display whereas most new Androids (including the note 7 mentioned here) have QHD displays (Note 7 with 518DPI) which hardly surprising take more processing power to achieve the same scores on GeekBench.

Run the Apple GeekBench tests on a QHD display and how would they fare?

Just sayin...

Storage tests are not dependent on displays. Javascript tests are not dependent on displays. Geekbench is not dependent on displays. Offscreen graphics tests are not dependent on displays. In fact the majority of benchmarks are not dependent on display sizes at all.

Just sayin...

 

[Ghost31]

should they remove the "pro" moniker from the ipad if it's at the same level of a phone?

I like how How you use the word "phone" like what we carry on our hands are just like the old flip phones grandmas carry.

Or you could say mini supercomputers that had more power than the space shuttle that first went to the moon.

 

[Jetcat3]

How on earth can the 6 Plus be considered an ancient relic of a display? It's the best performing LCD IPS display in a mobile device to this day and it fares quite well against Samsung's latest OLED display given LCD's limitations with regards to contrast, ect. 400 PPI is still very much acceptable.

Seriously crazy how fast the A10 chip is! Apple is killing it for sure.

 

[HEK]

At this point, these numbers (for any phone benchmark) are meaningless.
The real world observational differences in typical day to day use would be unnoticeable.

There was a time you'd see a difference, but over the last 5 years phones are so fast, no one will see any kind of difference.

I saw a noticible difference between my 6 Plus and 6s Plus in practical every day use.

 

[eniaczz]

iPhone 9

 

[jrswizzle]

Apple fans getting carried away a bit here, no one mentioned (funnily enough) that the IPhone 7+ uses an ancient relic of a display whereas most new Androids (including the note 7 mentioned here) have QHD displays (Note 7 with 518DPI) which hardly surprising take more processing power to achieve the same scores on GeekBench.

Run the Apple GeekBench tests on a QHD display and how would they fare?

Just sayin...

An "ancient relic of a display" that offers more accurate color reproduction and none of the drawbacks of higher than necessary PPI or AMOLED burn in (which does still occur....I have some demo watches that are burned in despite a rotating video loop that goes to black often).

The IPS LCDs in the iPhone are rated the best LCDs there are and DisplayMate always has excellent things to say about iPhone displays. Your hyperbole is trollish.

 

[Keirasplace]

If the iPhone had more features to utilize their processors....I would call that kicking as$....as of now it's just something that Apple fans can boast about but doesn't hold any significance.

It gives the phone performance and battery life that's very easy to predict (and good) under even heavy load.
That is of significance. That's like saying someone buying a Porsche is gaining anything if he's not driving it on the track...
Switching from apps to app, or functions, starting apps, UI, browsing, all of them and more are faster and more fluid.
Have you actually used an Iphone and Android phone of the same generation extensively (many that do app dev have too...) Well, try it hmm and report back on how there is : no significant difference (sic)

 

[pika2000]

Apple fans getting carried away a bit here, no one mentioned (funnily enough) that the IPhone 7+ uses an ancient relic of a display whereas most new Androids (including the note 7 mentioned here) have QHD displays (Note 7 with 518DPI) which hardly surprising take more processing power to achieve the same scores on GeekBench.

Run the Apple GeekBench tests on a QHD display and how would they fare?

Just sayin...

So what's the point of QHD display then if it just hampers real life performance? I am using a Vivo V3 with a mere 720p screen, and I never notice it being different than the OnePlus One (1080p).

PPI is another megapixel on paper. It's there to show big numbers, but practicality for PPI above 300 is marginal at best. Of course, unless you use your phone for VR. But how often would you do that? I'll take the better performing lower res screen.

 

[Artimus12]

"Apple says that the iPhone 7 should offer approximately two hours more battery life than the iPhone 6s on average and the iPhone 7 Plus should offer approximately one hour of additional battery life compared to the iPhone 6s Plus."

That may be so, but is anybody going to hold off charging their phone overnight because of it? It's paltry and won't make any difference to the majority of users.

 

[LegacyH6]

How on earth can the 6 Plus be considered an ancient relic of a display? It's the best performing LCD IPS display in a mobile device to this day and it fares quite well against Samsung's latest OLED display given LCD's limitations with regards to contrast, ect. 400 PPI is still very much acceptable.

Seriously crazy how fast the A10 chip is! Apple is killing it for sure.

Its an ancient display and fanboys need to dig their heads some way out of the sand at least

GPU tasks certainly certainly will be impacted by a display with much higer resolution, ie QHD

Apple are looking to be using OLED for the next development, with edge to edge. In other words what any current Android uses. They will probably use a supplier like Samsung.

Besides with about 20% global market share Apple has its work cut out it seems, they had a great chance to gain ground but the underwhelming iphone 7 will not help.

Apple used to be renowed for being creative and bold. Now they are just sucking every last penny from consumer's with pretty uninspiring products. Any of these latest features on the iphone 7 are nothing to anyone who has used Android phones recently.

Anyway time will tell whether Apple will recoup some ground on its rivals. Losing the audio jack could have been the last straw. There is a reason why Samsung,HTC or any other main manufacturers have not used a bluetooth audio interface until now.

But Apple clearly have the consumer in mind..as in global sales of bluetooth headphones.

 

[dampfnudel]

Damn, next year's benchmark tests will probably be 4500+ for the single and closing in on 7000 for the multi with the 10nm A11.

 

[jrswizzle]

Its an ancient display and fanboys need to dig their heads some way out of the sand at least

GPU tasks certainly certainly will be impacted by a display with much higer resolution, ie QHD

Apple are looking to be using OLED for the next development, with edge to edge. In other words what any current Android uses. They will probably use a supplier like Samsung.

Besides with about 20% global market share Apple has its work cut out it seems, they had a great chance to gain ground but the underwhelming iphone 7 will not help.

Apple used to be renowed for being creative and bold. Now they are just sucking every last penny from consumer's with pretty uninspiring products. Any of these latest features on the iphone 7 are nothing to anyone who has used Android phones recently.

Anyway time will tell whether Apple will recoup some ground on its rivals. Losing the audio jack could have been the last straw. There is a reason why Samsung,HTC or any other main manufacturers have not used a bluetooth audio interface until now.

But Apple clearly have the consumer in mind..as in global sales of bluetooth headphones.

I've used the last few major Android releases and they've been the ones that were underwhelming. The S7 Edge with its phantom touches, the Note 7 with its laggy interface, the OnePlus 3 with its memory issues. None of these "advanced Android devices" have been able to match my iPhone's smoothness, performance, photo-realness. Not to mention the numerous Apple services and apps I use daily that keep my connected with the things I need to do and those I care about.

The iP7 brings the iPhone camera back to the top, adds on to its lead in battery life over other devices and gives it the most powerful processor in a smartphone out there. What good is a QHD display when the system being shown gets bogged down by simple tasks. Believe me, I have a Note 7 right next to me. It is NOT enjoyable to use. The display is nice, but so is my iPhones. And the difference between them is fairly negligible - not anywhere near enough to warrant ignoring a variety of other problems my iPhone doesn't have.

Your continued assertion that the iPhone uses an ancient display can be disproved by simply reading DisplayMates assessment of the last display. I think an unbiased group of experts is far more trustworthy than some troll on a forum.

 

[FallenAngelPR]

And yet the Note 7 still gets trounced by the iPhone 6S.

Yea! it’s so OVER-CLOCKED that’s it’s causing the battery to Over-Heat and explode

 

[recoil80]

Can't wait to see what an A10X looks like in the next iPad Pro.

I wonder if they'll update the 9.7'' together with the bigger one this fall with this new fusion SoC. I know it is 6 months old but they did it with iPad 4 and this time it will be a CPU upgrade only

 

[Michael Goff]

Apple fans getting carried away a bit here, no one mentioned (funnily enough) that the IPhone 7+ uses an ancient relic of a display whereas most new Androids (including the note 7 mentioned here) have QHD displays (Note 7 with 518DPI) which hardly surprising take more processing power to achieve the same scores on GeekBench.

Run the Apple GeekBench tests on a QHD display and how would they fare?

Just sayin...

Resolution of display doesn't affect geekbench.
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Its an ancient display and fanboys need to dig their heads some way out of the sand at least

GPU tasks certainly certainly will be impacted by a display with much higer resolution, ie QHD

Apple are looking to be using OLED for the next development, with edge to edge. In other words what any current Android uses. They will probably use a supplier like Samsung.

Besides with about 20% global market share Apple has its work cut out it seems, they had a great chance to gain ground but the underwhelming iphone 7 will not help.

Apple used to be renowed for being creative and bold. Now they are just sucking every last penny from consumer's with pretty uninspiring products. Any of these latest features on the iphone 7 are nothing to anyone who has used Android phones recently.

Anyway time will tell whether Apple will recoup some ground on its rivals. Losing the audio jack could have been the last straw. There is a reason why Samsung,HTC or any other main manufacturers have not used a bluetooth audio interface until now.

But Apple clearly have the consumer in mind..as in global sales of bluetooth headphones.

This is your problem. Geekbench is a CPU test, not a GPU one.

 

[LegacyH6]

I've used the last few major Android releases and they've been the ones that were underwhelming. The S7 Edge with its phantom touches, the Note 7 with its laggy interface, the OnePlus 3 with its memory issues. None of these "advanced Android devices" have been able to match my iPhone's smoothness, performance, photo-realness. Not to mention the numerous Apple services and apps I use daily that keep my connected with the things I need to do and those I care about.

The iP7 brings the iPhone camera back to the top, adds on to its lead in battery life over other devices and gives it the most powerful processor in a smartphone out there. What good is a QHD display when the system being shown gets bogged down by simple tasks. Believe me, I have a Note 7 right next to me. It is NOT enjoyable to use. The display is nice, but so is my iPhones. And the difference between them is fairly negligible - not anywhere near enough to warrant ignoring a variety of other problems my iPhone doesn't have.

Your continued assertion that the iPhone uses an ancient display can be disproved by simply reading DisplayMates assessment of the last display. I think an unbiased group of experts is far more trustworthy than some troll on a forum.

Pretty Ironic, but whatever.

The next IPhone probably will have a curved OLED display, oh wait.

The camera on the new 7 , > dual camera (on my Note 5 which is old at this stage), the new feature on the 7 touted artifical intelligence(once it gets a software upgrade, dont forget your upgrades). The only intelligence this is insulting is the owners. This is also on my relatively old Note 5 and probably more androd phones also.

Apple are continualy wavering from the norm and losing more and more custoemrs. Whooping and high fiving customers into stores gets a bit tedious at this stage.

Whatever you say about Androids, most people would rather use a Nokia 3310 than go from any modern Android over to Apple.

In fact the best thing about the IPhone 7 is the fact it will make the 6 cheaper to purchase, for anyone who does want to move to iOS.
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Yea! it’s so OVER-CLOCKED that’s it’s causing the battery to Over-Heat and explode

at least Samsung quickly done a recall and stoped orders.

Which is more than can be said about Apple, better cast your mind back a bit.

Apple only worry about making mugs of customers to part with money for every Apple accessory that they need to be part of the constraining, restrictive and choking environment that is Apple.

 

[Neodym]

Slowly but surely the Ax chips are in the performance ballpark of a (low-end) Mac!

Time for Apple to roll out that special dock that let's the iPhone double as technological core of a seemingly normal Mac with full-size keyboard, mouse/trackpad and display (and perhaps even external GPU via TB).

No more syncing data between devices and OS platforms - you already have everything on that little aluminum/glass plate and can take it with you everywhere you go.

 

[pika2000]

I wonder if they'll update the 9.7'' together with the bigger one this fall with this new fusion SoC. I know it is 6 months old but they did it with iPad 4 and this time it will be a CPU upgrade only

It's possible. The Air 2 is getting old at this point. Apple could just set all regular-sized iPad to start with the current 9.7" iPad Pro with A9X, and a newer one with A10X. But when? I don't think it's soon since the whole lineup just got the 32GB boost.

What I'm wondering is the iPad mini. It has received step child treatment. I hope Apple can at least push an A10 in it with pencil support.
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Slowly but surely the Ax chips are in the performance ballpark of a (low-end) Mac!

Time for Apple to roll out that special dock that let's the iPhone double as technological core of a seemingly normal Mac with full-size keyboard, mouse/trackpad and display (and perhaps even external GPU via TB).

No more syncing data between devices and OS platforms - you already have everything on that little aluminum/glass plate and can take it with you everywhere you go.

I don't think that will ever happen. iOS is designed specifically for touch. Going back to mouse/keyboard is like trying to convert a sedan into a truck.

Don't worry though, Apple still sells Macbooks, and iCloud is what Apple wants to be the platform to take your stuff anywhere. (Everybody is going cloud, Google with Chromebooks, and even Microsoft with its cloud initiatives).

I do think we will see an Ax powered entry-level Macbook in the coming years.
Imagine Apple announcing how macOS has been living double-lives in a secret corner of Cupertino running on ARM (just like how Steve announced OS X on intel). But I feel this will be a "new" OS, and maybe a completely new lineup of products.

 

[Neodym]

Apple are looking to be using OLED for the next development

However, that may be only temporary, until Micro LED is ready for prime time.

 

[speedlimiter]

... whereas most new Androids (including the note 7 mentioned here) have QHD displays

You forget that the iPhone 6s Plus and 7 Plus actually use a higher resolution internally (2208x1242) and than downsample (x/ 1.15) to 1080p.

Both facts combined should even out the differences.

 

[cgsnipinva]

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at least Samsung quickly done a recall and stoped orders.

Which is more than can be said about Apple, better cast your mind back a bit.

Apple only worry about making mugs of customers to part with money for every Apple accessory that they need to be part of the constraining, restrictive and choking environment that is Apple.[/QUOTE]

Wait a minute - the designed a product that has blown up and caught fire burning cars and homes. The FAA won't allow them in checked baggage and you give them credit for recalling the product? Like they had a choice?

Maybe don't engineer a product with such a high failure rate and you will get a pass. But not the steaming pile the Note 7 turned out to be.

 

[x-evil-x]

At this point, these numbers (for any phone benchmark) are meaningless.
The real world observational differences in typical day to day use would be unnoticeable.

There was a time you'd see a difference, but over the last 5 years phones are so fast, no one will see any kind of difference.

Not really. My iPhone 5 was better at keeping apps open than my 6+. As far as speed between the 5 and 6+ there wasn't really any if not worse because of the size and 1 gig of ram. Now the 6S and on i can see it not being too noticeable but coming from the 6 generation it should be a huge huge upgrade for performance.
My 6+ will reload basically every application if I'm use a different one. That is horrible and takes much more time then keeping things open in background.

 

[cgsnipinva]

While the A10 is an outstanding processor and will make the iPhone 7 a winner from a performance and efficiency perspective - I am interested in the impact on the iPad Pro and iOS apps in particular. Given the processing power and efficiency this provides - an A10x version should open up new possibilities on the iPad Pro iOS software platform maybe creating iPad only features in iOS and related apps to make the iPad a truly productive device.

I have been impressed with what Apple has been able to do with their home grown processors.

 

[Jef88]

I wonder how well MacOS runs on the new A10? You KNOW they're running it already for several years just like 10.0 was shadowed developed on Intel the same time as PPC.
I'm waiting for Apple to announce new iMac and Mini devices that run on this new "desktop class" CPU. Can't be much longer folks.

If they will, they will hit it first on their mac mini line. Can't believe an Imac can be powered by the A10x chip without losing power.