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It has 2GB of RAM. I can't see why people would think it doesn't have that! It supports split view = 2GB RAM.
 
It's not a smaller iPad Air 2 afterall. The A8 CPU and especially GPU performance is gimped. That changes my plan of getting the iPad Mini 4 since I like to occasionally play games.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

A8
CPU: 1.3x faster
Graphics: 1.6x faster

A8X
CPU: 1.4x faster
Graphics: 2.5x faster
 
It's not a smaller iPad Air 2 afterall. The A8 CPU and especially GPU performance is gimped. That changes my plan of getting the iPad Mini 4 since I like to occasionally play games.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

A8
CPU: 1.3x faster
Graphics: 1.6x faster

A8X
CPU: 1.4x faster
Graphics: 2.5x faster
Not to mention that we don't know if they're using the 1.3GHz A7 or the 1.4GHz as the standard, so that would make it an even bigger difference.
 
It's not a smaller iPad Air 2 afterall. The A8 CPU and especially GPU performance is gimped. That changes my plan of getting the iPad Mini 4 since I like to occasionally play games.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

A8
CPU: 1.3x faster
Graphics: 1.6x faster

A8X
CPU: 1.4x faster
Graphics: 2.5x faster

Dude you like to occasionally play games but don't think the A8 is good enough? Then what about all those that game on an iPad 4 or an iPad Air with A7? The A8 is already 60% faster than the A7 which is already a beast. Or how about those that game on an iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus which uses the same GPU as the A8?
 
Is apple becoming more slim shady with iPad mini products/ or iPad in general?
I guess so. Some people here didn't believe me when I said that Apple always prefers you buy the bigger iPad. Now with the iPad Pro, it's obvious that is the case, especially with the iPad Air 3 not making a debut, even with it being updated at least once per year.

I expect them to put all the latest technology in the Pro only from now on. That is the cold hard truth :(
 
I guess so. Some people here didn't believe me when I said that Apple always prefers you buy the bigger iPad. Now with the iPad Pro, it's obvious that is the case, especially with the iPad Air 3 not making a debut, even with it being updated at least once per year.

I expect them to put all the latest technology in the Pro only from now on. That is the cold hard truth :(
How does that affect your buying now?
 
How does that affect your buying now?
Honestly, it doesn't. I never planned on buying an iPad. I'm happy with using my Mac mini and iPhone :)

I made the post so I could see others' opinions on the topic, since there wasn't one when I made it ;)

But if I were on the market, I would buy it only if it had the 2GB of RAM (which seems very likely).
 
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Except for iPad Pro all the other iPads have compromises and/or defects.

iPad Mini 4 gimped SoC

iPad Air reloads from DRAM defiency, too big for one handed use but too small for two handed and productivity

iPad Air 2 screen distortion from holding the back and sound vibration flaws, too big for one handed use but too small for two handed and productivity

Only thing is iPad Pro is overpriced for what it is. I'll wait until after xmas to get it on sale for $599 for 32GB WIFI version.
 
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Except for iPad Pro all the other iPads have compromises and/or defects.

iPad Mini 4 gimped SoC

iPad Air reloads from DRAM defiency, too big for one handed use but too small for two handed and productivity

iPad Air 2 screen distortion from holding the back and sound vibration flaws, too big for one handed use but too small for two handed and productivity

Only thing is iPad Pro is overpriced for what it is. I'll wait until after xmas to get it on sale for $599 for 32GB WIFI version.
That is all true. I guess if you wanted to complain about anything from the iPad Pro, it would be that it is a bit thicker than the iPad Air 2 and iPad mini 4 and its cameras don't match the iPhone 6s's.

There has yet to be an iOS device that is universally accepted as flawless. One day...;)
 
I suspect many will pick apart the new offerings to validate their older purchases or at least try to talk themnself out of buying a new toy. A A8 2g chip is smoking fast for a mini iPad. Nothing else its size will touch it. Wait until the independent speed test come out before "should have done" speculations are made. In the world of compact tablets, Apple has given you a super model girlfriend and all some can do is complane about the color of her bikini.
 
I suspect many will pick apart the new offerings to validate their older purchases or at least try to talk themnself out of buying a new toy. A A8 2g chip is smoking fast for a mini iPad. Nothing else its size will touch it. Wait until the independent speed test come out before "should have done" speculations are made. In the world of compact tablets, Apple has given you a super model girlfriend and all some can do is complane about the color of her bikini.
That is an excellent point. Definitely something people should consider.
 
Except for iPad Pro all the other iPads have compromises and/or defects.

iPad Mini 4 gimped SoC

iPad Air reloads from DRAM defiency, too big for one handed use but too small for two handed and productivity

iPad Air 2 screen distortion from holding the back and sound vibration flaws, too big for one handed use but too small for two handed and productivity

Only thing is iPad Pro is overpriced for what it is. I'll wait until after xmas to get it on sale for $599 for 32GB WIFI version.

I have no doubt that MR will find at least half a dozen fatal flaws with the Pro. You only need to wait until it starts shipping - it'll get trashed just like everything else here. :rolleyes:
 
Well, I ordered one (SG, 64G LTE)... I figure it will show up on the 17th. I'm guessing I'll be as impressed with it as I was with the iPad Air 2.

No matter, I found myself micro-managing 32GB. Looking forward to not paying attention to that, as on my phone :)
 
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Well, I ordered one (SG, 64G LTE)... I figure it will show up on the 17th. I'm guessing I'll be as impressed with it as I was with the iPad Air 2.

No matter, I found myself micro-managing 32GB. Looking forward to not paying attention to that, as on my phone :)

remember to run a geekbench and tell us the ram and processor speed
 
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Apple should list it in their specs list. It should be no secret whether it has 1 or 2 GB of RAM. By now iPads should have 3 or 4GB of RAM. Here we are trying to guess if they decided to be generous enough to give us 1 more freakin GB f RAM on our new 4th Generation iPads :eek:
 
Apple should list it in their specs list. It should be no secret whether it has 1 or 2 GB of RAM. By now iPads should have 3 or 4GB of RAM. Here we are trying to guess if they decided to be generous enough to give us 1 more freakin GB f RAM on our new 4th Generation iPads :eek:
+1 You hit the nail squarely on the head!
 
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...Apple always prefers you buy the bigger iPad. Now with the iPad Pro, it's obvious that is the case, especially with the iPad Air 3 not making a debut, even with it being updated at least once per year.
But isn't the lack of iPad Air 3 actually a good thing?

As you said, Apple pushes people to buy their biggest product so consider the specs of the fictional iPad Air 3 if it actually came out.

2015 iPad Air 3
+ Faster processor
- 2GB RAM
- 16GB Entry Model
- No 3D Touch
- No Pencil Support
- No Smart Connector

That sounds like a machine that would cause more regrets than benefits over the Air2. But now consider everything we get because we have to wait an extra year

2016 iPad Air 3
+ A10x chip
+ 4GB RAM
+ 32GB Entry Model
+ 3D Touch
+ Pencil Support
+ Smart Connector and established accessory market
+ Apples new 2016 gimmick



I sold my Air2 so I'm bummed there's no Air 3 but I think in the long run then the next iPad revision will be such a drastic upgrade that it will be Apples best iPad update ever.
 
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But isn't the lack of iPad Air 3 actually a good thing?

As you said, Apple pushes people to buy their biggest product so consider the specs of the fictional iPad Air 3 if it actually came out.

2015 iPad Air 3
+ Faster processor
- 2GB RAM
- 16GB Entry Model
- No 3D Touch
- No Pencil Support
- No Smart Connector

That sounds like a machine that would cause more regrets than benefits over the Air2. But now consider everything we get because we have to wait an extra year

2016 iPad Air 3
+ A10x chip
+ 4GB RAM
+ 32GB Entry Model
+ 3D Touch
+ Pencil Support
+ Smart Connector and established accessory market
+ Apples new 2016 gimmick



I sold my Air2 so I'm bummed there's no Air 3 but I think in the long run then the next iPad revision will be such a drastic upgrade that it will be Apples best iPad update ever.


Kind of agree, except I don't expect the Air to get an X chip again now. Unless one comes out early next year, I'd expect the air 3 to have A10 and I highly doubt they'll bump its ram to 4gb just yet. Got a good two years of 2gb left. If it's true the pro has 4gb it will simply be because of the whole 'two full sized iPad Air apps side by side' thing they have going at he moment.

I feel the pro will now get X chips, air standard chips like phone (with better clock speeds), and the mini will get last year chips. I.e pro 2: A10X, air 3: A10, mini 5: A9
 
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Kind of agree, except I don't expect the Air to get an X chip again now. Unless one comes out early next year, I'd expect the air 3 to have A10 and I highly doubt they'll bump its ram to 4gb just yet. Got a good two years of 2gb left. If it's true the pro has 4gb it will simply be because of the whole 'two full sized iPad Air apps side by side' thing they have going at he moment.

I feel the pro will now get X chips, air standard chips like phone (with better clock speeds), and the mini will get last year chips. I.e pro 2: A10X, air 3: A10, mini 5: A9
I expect something similar: the A10 for the iPhones 7 and 7 Plus, the A9 for the iPad mini 5, the A9X for the iPad Air 3, and the A10X for the iPad Pro 2.

They seem to be adding their latest-generation chips to the iPhone (with good reason, it is their best selling product, after all), the previous generation A-chip to the iPad mini, and the latest AX-chip in the iPad Pro. I expect the wild card to be the iPad Air from now on.
 
Why would Apple have kept the 2GB of RAM secret? That would have been a good sell argument, so why not reveal it?

Since we are still in the game of prediction and speculation, I think it is still at 1GB.
 
this is what Apple does. In fact, they always do this.
Apple doesnt like to compete with a spec page but rather have the actual device compete. On paper they never look good but ALWAY trounce their competition in real world test.


Why would Apple have kept the 2GB of RAM secret? That would have been a good sell argument, so why not reveal it?

Since we are still in the game of prediction and speculation, I think it is still at 1GB.
 
Why would Apple have kept the 2GB of RAM secret? That would have been a good sell argument, so why not reveal it?

Since we are still in the game of prediction and speculation, I think it is still at 1GB.

Because competitors announce their specs which are often 3 or 4gb for a tablet. Apple announcing such a spec would make it appear inferior even though most of us know that isn't always a true indication of performance or capability.
 
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