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If this is true, I'm buying one.

P-Worm

I have a friend that refused to buy one originally because the calendar feature was readonly. I showed him this and now he is waiting on principal for third party apps support.

Bottom line, is that there is always some reason for naysayers to be glad they waited. For me, this is the best device I've ever owned. If you get one I predict you will not be sorry.

(first post from iPod Touch)
 
bug?, lmao, I would be retard to believe its a bug. something not working when it supposed to work, thats a bug. Intensional crippling is fine, just don't pretend to be innocent.

inability to put games in to a "OS" SJ himself proudly taunted as a "OSX", is that another ignorant excuse from SJ? or is he admitting his software developing team are just purely BAD?

You have no idea whether it is a bug or not, unless you have access to the source code. I'm guessing you don't. So it is only your opinion.

As for the games. The games referred to are the previous iPod games. These do run on an OS different from the iPod touch.
 
Sorta OT: WPA-Enterprise within 6 months

I was tempted and I did email the sjobs and got a personal reply about 802.1x and WPA enterprise. All it said was within 6 months. Woooot!
 
I very much doubt it was a bug - since iPhone Calendar works OK - and both Touch and iPhone use mobile OSX.

Nope, instead, its down to SJ's giant ego and his inability to say - "I'm sorry, we got it wrong when we chose to remove the editable calendars". He has to make an excuse for his backtrack.
 
So here's my cockeyed theory about the calendar release (or lack thereof):

They did intentionally leave off the add/remove features to try to make the iPod less iPhone-ish. People got mad, and they want these features. So Apple will update...but not quite yet.

Why not yet? Think about the iTunes music store for the iPhone. Good ol' version 1.1.1 brought the iTunes store to your iPhone, and it's such a nifty feature that people wanted to update badly, so they did. And hacked iPhones got bricked.

I think that they're waiting until the iPod Touch has been hacked to release this "can't live without" feature, and in the process they'll break your hacks and fortify the OS against similar hacks. I don't think they'll brick the Touch, since it doesn't really affect them one way or another what you do with it (there is a risk if people are able to hack the wifi iTunes store, but that activity would probably be tied to your account anyway). Also, they're catching a lot of heat about the iPhone bricks.

Anyway, that's my $.02. Nothing like a good cockeyed theory every now and then.:rolleyes:

only the last paragraph is cockeyed
 
You could always do this ....

EXCELLENT! I was going to fill up the Calendar with video game releases, Indianapolis Colts games, and my own personal events (like a dental appointment or something), but I learned you can't add events. So what was the point of having a calendar on it? :p

I'm thrilled to hear that they're adding it eventually. :)

Errr... you could always add events to iCal and have it sync up to your iTouch (and indeed, if you were importing alot of dates like you intend to this would seem to be the mode of choice).

What this issue is about is adding events on-the-fly to your touch while on the road, allowing them to be backwards synced to iCal.

Curious though, how does calendar syncing working for poor PC using iPhone/Touch owners ?
 
I have a friend that refused to buy one originally because the calendar feature was readonly. I showed him this and now he is waiting on principal for third party apps support.

Bottom line, is that there is always some reason for naysayers to be glad they waited. For me, this is the best device I've ever owned. If you get one I predict you will not be sorry.

(first post from iPod Touch)

I got an iPhone and I _am_ sorry. The update that wiped out 3rd party apps - and deliberately blocked users from installing 3rd party apps - strikes at the heart of what Apple stands for.

Go watch that "Here's to the crazy ones, the dreamers..." ad. It's very ironic in light of Apple's handling of 3rd party development on the iPhone.
 
I feel his pain....

I have a friend that refused to buy one originally because the calendar feature was readonly. I showed him this and now he is waiting on principal for third party apps support.

Bottom line, is that there is always some reason for naysayers to be glad they waited. For me, this is the best device I've ever owned. If you get one I predict you will not be sorry.

(first post from iPod Touch)

Congratulations ! I'm jealous ! I really do want a touch, but the calendar "bug", crippling apps, along with the lack of 3PAs marks a long standing trend with Apple to differenate products. [No google maps, calendar "bugs", notes, etc.] That's lame.

The ONLY way to let Apple know your displeasure is by a) letting them know, and b) stop buying products you "naysay", period.

I don't need a promise that "3rd party apps will be available next quarter" or anything like that ... I'd just appreciate some sort of roadmap that says "if things go right, here's where we'd like to see the platform going in the next year".

As it stands, however, I need my non-phone handheld to run Chinese dictionary software. The small independant developer would be more than interested in developing for it, and had started fiddling around prior to the iPhone 1.1.1 . It really sucks that Apple remains so tight lipped around the platforms future, cus I'm aching to give them $300 of my money and do away with my Palm TX (which has served me well).
 
You know what would be funny is if a new janitor at apple was hired whose name is Scott Jobs. So they set up his email as sjobs@apple.com, and then he thinks he needs to reply to all these emails he's been getting. Of course, since he's the janitor he gets all the inside scoop going around to all the departments.
 
A Real E-Mail address - sure. Useful is another question.

I have no doubt that the E-mail address is real and that the potential is there for the real Steve Jobs to answer the E-Mail.

My problem is that the address doesn't mean much right now because Apples attitude towards the iphone community is so bad and I'm so mad about it that I don't think I could manage a letter that would get read by the filtering team much less past it. Maybe in a month or two when more is known about where Apple is going then maybe, just maybe, I will express my opinion to them.

As to the Touch I'm really hoping that it is just a class of devices and that this Touch is just the beginning. I'm disappointed with the lock out and disappointed with the missing Bluetooth hardware. Being Camera free the Touch has its own appeal when working in places where cameras aren't aloud. There is a lot f potential in the platform if Apple can get past the idea that it is just an iPod.

As to the people that are still in denial about the nature of these computing platforms, I have to say get with it. The platforms have a full Unix like OS and already come with a handful of apps. Adding apps to the platform is just part of any computing platforms life cycle.

Dave
 
Wow, if this were true, I'd consider not getting the new Nano and putting out for a Touch instead since you'd have a pseudo-PDA if the calendar were actually usable.
 
In Mail.app when you hit reply it automatically adds a gap above the existing e-mail message, therefore it's telling you where to type you reply, on top as you say. Everyone I know does it this way, from all over the world, except on the few occasions where someone on MySpace has replied below, I'd say it's fairly common.

True, true. Most of the ultra-geeks I know just hate top-posting like it was the reason they lost their job or something... Anyway, never mind...
 
MacRumors forum user DavidJearly emailed Steve Jobs, asking about several features that are lacking on the iPod Touch.

Steve Jobs reportedly replied and addressed the last two issues:
David,

Nothing can be done about the games. The new iPod touch is a completely different animal inside than the old iPods and the games just don't translate. The inability to edit and add calendar events is a bug that will be fixed in a future software update.

Best,
Steve



Lol.
 
I could never understand the issue with top posting either. To me it is the most logical way to read something. Especially in a forum like this where postings are in order. You would otherwise have to parse a bunch of text for every posting your read.

Now what this has to do with the Touch. I don't know but I certainly wish it had a better suite of applications.



True, true. Most of the ultra-geeks I know just hate top-posting like it was the reason they lost their job or something... Anyway, never mind...
 
I very much doubt it was a bug - since iPhone Calendar works OK - and both Touch and iPhone use mobile OSX.

Nope, instead, its down to SJ's giant ego and his inability to say - "I'm sorry, we got it wrong when we chose to remove the editable calendars". He has to make an excuse for his backtrack.


<sigh> OK, and what if the bug wasn't in Calendar.app, but rather in the sync code in iTunes? I'm sure that you'll agree that the sync profile of the iPhone and the iPod touch are significantly different, and as a result there could easily be a bug in one, and not in the other...

Honestly, ir really isn't unreasonable to believe that they removed this feature because of a bug. Have you ever seen someone who just had their calendar/contacts list borked by a bad sync? I have a friend who had that happen to her, and ever since (going on 2 years now), anything entered into her phone she transfers by hand onto the computer, and vice versa.

Note, I'm not saying that it has to have been a bug, and that it wasn't Jobs' ego, I'm simply saying that the bug hypothesis cannot be ruled out as being unbelievable.
 
( the sync works with iphone just fine )

What If this, what if that....

None of us really know, its all speculation.

Wasn't what you said in the post I quoted though, was it? Back there, you seemed pretty damn certain that it was a bad judgement call by Jobs. To refresh your memory of what you said:
Nope, instead, its down to SJ's giant ego and his inability to say - "I'm sorry, we got it wrong when we chose to remove the editable calendars". He has to make an excuse for his backtrack.

Doesn't sound too much like you thought it was only speculation...
 
Mail App on iPod Touch?

So, Steve "uncripples" the iPod Touch calendar:), what about the mail app:confused:?
 
Wasn't what you said in the post I quoted though, was it? Back there, you seemed pretty damn certain that it was a bad judgement call by Jobs. To refresh your memory of what you said:


Doesn't sound too much like you thought it was only speculation...

Your right. I didn't put much thought into it. A lot of people think that its due to some bug, so I wrote what I did because:
Its all speculation. No one really knows. What if this, what if that. It could be due to a number of reasons. At the end of the day, what does it matter - Apple crippled the Calendar due to some reason.

SJ isn't forthcoming with the 'truth' on every occasion ( and I don't blame him - Apple could seriously suffer if he did ).

Time will tell whether there will be editable calendars. I find it very odd that Apple allowed editable contacts, but crippled calendar. It makes little sense.
 
I asked Steve if the iPhone was ever coming to Canada because I really really really want one. No reply yet.
 
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