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No metal in these new releases, of course. El Capitan isn't even out yet…
I was waiting for that too. If After Effects is as fast on Metal as they say it is, I just might give AE CC 2015 a go. We'll see when it debuts. I wonder if it will come as part of a 2015 update or if it will have to wait for the next one in 2016.
 
What worries me is that if Adobe's plan to force the subscription model down their customers' throats works for them financially, other companies will follow. It's a slippery slope that is only beneficial for one side - not for the end user.
Sorry Adobe, I'm a buyer and you only want to rent. Our business relationship is over.
Filemaker just started a mandatory "rent software forever" plan as well.
 
What happens when your computer isn't able to run the latest version? You have to buy a new computer. I can see this becoming a problem a few years down the line.
Like any upgrade then you buy a new computer. If the computer cannot run the software you need to use, then its time to get new hardware.
 
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I love Pixelmator, but still use my old Photoshop CS5 most of the time because I'm most familiar with it. I didn't know Affinity Designer. How does it compare as an Illustrator alternative? It seems pretty nice for the price!

Also, any pros and cons on Affinity Designer versus Sketch?
I think this comparison should cover most of the points. In addition, I personally found that Affinity Designer is much, much faster than Sketch (at least than the last version I tried of Sketch).
 
But I've just opened a PSD file from 2001 in preview .... Therefore its a false assertion that you need to be subscribed to open the file - when you don't need photoshop if you just wish to open it.

Edit it - fine, but again there are cheaper alternatives like pixelmator that will open the file and preserve layers and allow you to continue editing.

But did it have all the separate layers etc.?

And I repeat: I had that problem not with an Adobe program but alas, I can see them easily pull the plug on older formats just as well when some corporate shill decides it would be 'beneficial'.

But yea, no need to beat that horse anymore. Still a shame (just like all of our powerful machines can't run 10yo programs but that isn't Adobes fault of course.. at least I'd think so ;)).
 
Filemaker just started a mandatory "rent software forever" plan as well.
I'm still rocking with an FMP12, so I'll stick with that as long as I can.
Looks like there's not going to be too much incentive to change for now.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/17/a...t-517k-new-paying-creative-cloud-subscribers/
The subscription model has been very successful for both MS and Adobe. I don't see them working terribly hard to entice people to embrace it, when they're already flocking to it. In Adobe's case, they have a captive audience, There's really no other viable competitor to their creative suite. There's some smaller competitor's such as pixelmator but for the most part they have the market locked up
 
But did it have all the separate layers etc.?

And I repeat: I had that problem not with an Adobe program but alas, I can see them easily pull the plug on older formats just as well when some corporate shill decides it would be 'beneficial'.

But yea, no need to beat that horse anymore. Still a shame (just like all of our powerful machines can't run 10yo programs but that isn't Adobes fault of course.. at least I'd think so ;)).

Pixelmator will preserve layers as will apps like Corel painter etc... There are solutions if you look ;)
 
What worries me is that if Adobe's plan to force the subscription model down their customers' throats works for them financially, other companies will follow. It's a slippery slope that is only beneficial for one side - not for the end user.
Adobe was far from the first and they won't be the last. In the commercial IT space, such licensing models date back at least to the IBM mainframe (annual lease charge, anyone). Adobe CC is targeted at professionals and that alone justifies the model (as much as the 'one man band' or 'prosumer' like myself may hate it - yes, I too bought CS6 to avoid CC expenses).

What worries me more is the creep of this model into the consumer space, though it's arguably preferable to the proliferation of chargeable upgrades (how many WinZip upgrades would Sir like to pay for this year?)
 
There are solutions if you look ;)

Good. Still, you may see things a bit different and get much more cautious when all of a sudden you can't open them anymore at all due propretary formats. And don't tell me I could have found solutions for my ArchiCAD files since I actually did look. And if even the company can't or won't do anything you're pretty much f'd.

So, but now enough of that b*tch and moan part. People may think I'm need to relax. :D
 
Good. Still, you may see things a bit different and get much more cautious when all of a sudden you can't open them anymore at all due propretary formats. And don't tell me I could have found solutions for my ArchiCAD files since I actually did look. And if even the company can't or won't do anything you're pretty much f'd.

So, but now enough of that b*tch and moan part. People may think I'm need to relax. :D
Lol.. In fairness though PSD seems to be far less propriety and I do understand frustration of files you can't open. :)

Yes and Trust me it's happened to all of us at some stage, we have a recording studio here and there are many recordings in formats we can no longer open due to technology and propriety formats.

But I just think you may be too wary of Adobe in your example :)
 
Adobe sucks. I don't even use their software but I pirated a copy just to make a point that they are money grabbing pricks.

Oh and Flash still sucks ***** too.

What point does that prove. You can choose to not use Adobe products, you don't have to steel to prove anything.


Adobe sucks.

Don't you hate it when you post in haste, realise your going to be flamed because you posted silliness, and edit your post - but someone has already captured your silly post prior edit! ;)
 
But I just think you may be too wary of Adobe in your example :)

Well, to put it shortly: I like to be as independent as possible.

Renting a program to create something that may be precious to me isn't ringing many bells and whistles in my ears. And I can't see a single argument that would change my mind about that. I paid almost 10k for programs that I own this year, and yep, I only feel bad about those that I have to rent for like 60 bucks a month. If there were an viable alternative to get CS6 or 5 I would have gladly taken it. But I was too late to that party, pity.

but that one user above was right, actually this is the wrong thread to complain. So I keep unwatching it and wish you a good day MRU :D
 
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This will be a big deal to me when Adobe announces that I can pay for a license upfront instead of having to lease the software and get stuck with a subscription.

For all those who defend Adobe Cash Cow, your math is completely wrong. Those of us who were used to buying a license weren't upgrading every cycle, hence not costing us around $199 every other year. Many of us upgraded every 2-3 cycles or longer, which can be translated to 4-7 years. In fact, I know professionals who still use older versions of Photoshop, from version 7 to CS4.

I started with Adobe CS[1]. I actually bought a full version of CS[1] shortly after CS2 was announced in 2005 and Adobe upgraded me for free. I didn't upgrade until CS6 was announced in 2012 which I ended up buying CS5 shortly after the announcement and Adobe upgraded me to CS6 for free. It's now 2015 and in 10 years, I've spent a total of around $550 or $55 per year or $4.58 per month. That's far less expensive than anything Adobe has to offer with Cash Cow.

Anyone who thinks an $8-10 monthly subscription for the Photoshop bundle, for example, is a great deal, is only fooling themselves.

I'm personally sticking with CS6 for as long as I can and when it's time to move on, I'll be looking for an alternative for it unless Adobe can offer a much more compelling product with a much more competitive price. Don't get me wrong, I understand that Adobe needed to do what they felt was in the best interest to make money but their short-sightedness have cost them many long-term customers.

Lastly, I have tried CC and have a subscription that was given to me by the school I am currently attending. I downloaded only what I needed for my classes but stayed with CS6 for Photoshop. I really wasn't impressed by anything currently offered. Either way, now that I don't need those apps, there is no reason for me to keep CC despite it being available to me.

I find it sad that anyone who needs one of Adobe's creative apps now will get suckered into a subscription model.

NOTE: I didn't intend to quote the above user, but I don't see a way to delete my post entirely.
 
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May I know what competition you refer to? Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve and Fusion?

Yes. Premiere already has competition from FCPX ( wich started regaining the popularity it lost after its first launch), but now Resolve 12 in turning into a full-featured editing system, not just color-correction.
And Fusion 8 will be released this summer in a Mac/Linux version. And Fusion is way more powerful than After Effects.
The most amazing is that they will be both have a free version that allows you to do commercial work , and lacks very few things form the paid version, mostly networking stuff ! And even the paid versions aren't that expensive.

There is also HitFilm for compositing. Not very well known but surprisingly powerful and cheap.

And there's Autodesk Smoke and Nuke Fusion , wich both have free versions but much more limited than Fusion's. (Not sure you can do commercial work with Nuke 's free version)

Basically , Affinity Designer + Affinity Photo + ( FCPX( I'm already using it) or Resolve ) + Fusion8. That's my future. My CC subscription ends in October and Im' not renewing it.
 
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Still, my focal point is the issue of how I can access my own property (created content) in say 5, 10, 15, 30 years. You know, things that are utterly important if you don't just create 'fast-food' content. :D


Well can you open any type of project file that was created 30 years ago?
 
Adobe and FileMaker kiss my ass. Imagine instead of owning a set of skis in the Northeast that you'll periodically use year in and year out, except that you're required to rent them every month? That is the rip-off that occurs to periodic users of rented software. Just cut the cord like many of us are doing to the cable companies, who are just as horrible.
 
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Pro tip from a former subscription whiner: Replace the time spent ranting about a paltry $30 monthly subscription (which I'm guessing is less than half of one billable hour for most?) with billable hours and you'll suddenly have more important things to worry about. Hell, my cell plan and cable bill are each a lot more than Adobe's fee. I'll admit, I resisted for a while but once I got some new CC files from a client that I couldn't open, I realized I was making a big deal out of nothing. Call me a sheep if you want, but I got back to work and I'm digging some of the new features, while still wishing other things were better. Pretty much like always, right?
 
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Interesting how they're comparing to CS6 a lot. I suspect a lot of customers are still holding onto their Cs 6 copies such as myself, for as long as possible to avoid the annual subscription payments.
You bet!
I am not crazy about the subscription plan. CS6 still able to get my work done but I am envisioning to be force to jump to the subscription model maybe next year. At some point I will have to upgrade to follow my industry companies and colleagues that I work with.
I wish Adobe had a purchase option other than subscription.
 
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Well can you open any type of project file that was created 30 years ago?

Sure if you kept your machine in good shape! :D

I agree that this is a general (huge and somewhat puzzling!) problem with digitalization but if you'd be a musician you wouldn't throw away your old instruments just because you got new ones either. And for the record: I didn't keep my 386 either but that was my decision.
 
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