I'm sure they'll either see a spike in torrents or sales of CS6, because this cloud based application theory just ins't going to cut it.
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Adobe Announces New Creative Cloud Apps, Abandons Creative Suite
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Not everyone will sit on CS6. What happens when you, as a professional, receive files created and saved from a newer "cloud based" version of Photoshop that you, on your couple years old version of CS 6 based Photoshop can't open?
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Going to all cloud subscriptions is shocking. I have 2 copies of cs6 for our creativ team. I subscribed to creative cloud at home in order to research it for our company.
It was nice having it at $29.99. You can download every program for the same price. I'm sure it will spur some experimentation and people using more of their programs. It syncs with mobile apps like adobe ideas.
I became comfortble with the cloud version, but have some hesitation about the all or nothing approach.
Going to all cloud subscriptions is shocking. I have 2 copies of cs6 for our creativ team. I subscribed to creative cloud at home in order to research it for our company.
It was nice having it at $29.99. You can download every program for the same price. I'm sure it will spur some experimentation and people using more of their programs. It syncs with mobile apps like adobe ideas.
I became comfortble with the cloud version, but have some hesitation about the all or nothing approach.
One problem I've run into with this is that if you run Windows both as a native boot with Bootcamp and via VMWare Fusion using the Bootcamp partition, the CC apps consider it to be two separate uses even though you are using the same physical disc partition. CC asks to re-verify your license every time you switch between the two boot methods and each count as an "install".
It is not weird, many people must not use more than 2 applications, and with this scheme, they sell up.
It would not like a different scheme resulting in the full suite being more expensive.
you are an idiot.
people did leave apple for adobe. now people are going to leave adobe.
That post was priceless. However, I was unable to find any link on Adobe's site to purchase or upgrade to CS6, Old School style. Any search leads only to PS CC.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to save my boss some money.
For reasons already posted, for those only using one or two programs, especially the many "hobbyists" out there, this still sucks.
I'd much prefer shelling out a huge ampunt evey 3 or 5 years, when I feel like it. There's absolutely no need to upgrade every year or version.
This is the kind of thing the antitrust laws were written to address. Write your Congressperson. Call the state attorney general's office, etc.
We're Americans. Mostly. There are options.
We're Americans. Mostly. There are options.
And with LR getting more features, it might become a viable alternative to Photoshop for people who don't really need PS to process and retouch their photos, but are just used to using it.
It is already an alternative if you're not doing effects.
Actually, in this case I think the proper tool is Lightroom, with Photoshop being the alternative.
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Where's the incentive to improve the software on a subscription model? Once they have your money they can just sit around without adding new features, or add features nobody really wants, or...basically whatever they feel like doing. There's no pressure at all to make new versions which are good enough to make people part with more many.
Where's the incentive to improve the software on a subscription model? Once they have your money they can just sit around without adding new features, or add features nobody really wants, or...basically whatever they feel like doing. There's no pressure at all to make new versions which are good enough to make people part with more many.
I can't believe how freaked out everyone is about this. You don't run the apps online, you install them on your computer just like before. And you don't have to use the "cloud" for storage if you don't want to or don't have a fast enough internet connection.
Take a chill pill, this is obviously a good thing for those who don't have $3000+ to put on the suite in one go. Adobe will gain a ton of users with this and it's also a good way to fight piratism.
And for those saying 600 bucks per year is too much. You're still upgrading your suite once every few years, and if you pay say $2000 every three years, that would be $666/year on average.
Take a chill pill, this is obviously a good thing for those who don't have $3000+ to put on the suite in one go. Adobe will gain a ton of users with this and it's also a good way to fight piratism.
And for those saying 600 bucks per year is too much. You're still upgrading your suite once every few years, and if you pay say $2000 every three years, that would be $666/year on average.
Glad I have CS6 because Adobe has lost me as a customer unless they go back to local apps that users pay upfront in full.
I have no problem paying few hundred dollars for a new version of Photoshop but a monthly subscription to use an app? Uh, no thanks! This is worst than freemium apps in the App Store.
It's been great Adobe and I hope you put the money that I paid you for CS1-6 has been put to good use but this is where we part ways. I wish you well but heed my warning:
Cloud-based app + Monthly subscription = One big disaster for Adobe
I have no problem paying few hundred dollars for a new version of Photoshop but a monthly subscription to use an app? Uh, no thanks! This is worst than freemium apps in the App Store.
It's been great Adobe and I hope you put the money that I paid you for CS1-6 has been put to good use but this is where we part ways. I wish you well but heed my warning:
Cloud-based app + Monthly subscription = One big disaster for Adobe
The incentive is called Lightworks, Apple, Avid, etc., at least on the video/film post production side of things. The hurdle to changing NLEs largely exists in the change in workflow that will ensue and the time it takes to get up to speed on new applications. The cost of the software these days is not that big a deal. It's not like people are paying $60k per seat for an NLE anymore. With costs coming down so much and no clear 'leader' in the NLE race many editors already own multiple NLE apps and that trend is only going to continue.
Congrats, adobe. All of your fans just ditched you and you're headed straight down the drain.
It's only a matter of time before someone else picks up where adobe left off.
It's only a matter of time before someone else picks up where adobe left off.
Wait until they start charging a monthly fee to use Windows 9....
We're sorry, but your subscription to Windows9 has expired. Please deposit another $19.95 into your M$ Account to continue. Sadly, I wish I was kidding. This is what ALL businesses want. Money for nothing and your checks for free (i.e. no more one time payments; they want subscriptions that never end so they have a never-ending stream of money coming in to their pockets and they CAN do it, since you don't "own" ANYTHING these days. You only buy a license to do whatever the owner wants. If you don't like it, go somewhere else (and hope there IS somewhere else to go).
Nothing weird about it. Its called upselling, and salesmen love doing it, because they convince you to pay them more- for things you don't even really want, simply because its a "great deal".
What a joke, clearly Adobe see's the Final Cut Xpress model as the way to go. Nothing better than paying $600/yr to rent software. And even better paying $1800 for three yrs use, miss one payment and its as if you tryed the demo as opposed to owning the physical software you paid for. For everyone on here who bought a mac and think that you instantly become a creative professional by hitting the pro button to the right of the backspace key, your fools, and have no intention of working in any major creative field. Maybe Apple could embrace this with the macbookpro, $19.99/mo and it doesnt turn on without re upping your itunes giftcard.
The whole cloud thing is a gimmick for rich kids who are to lazy to read, A cloud is a server, thats it, its not a cloud, its a corporate owned server that you feel priviledged to help pay for. Good job, go download something for free, you owe it to yourself.
The whole cloud thing is a gimmick for rich kids who are to lazy to read, A cloud is a server, thats it, its not a cloud, its a corporate owned server that you feel priviledged to help pay for. Good job, go download something for free, you owe it to yourself.
The only people who need to worry about this are new freelancers. If they've been working for a while they likely have steady work, and the $50 monthly fee is a fraction of just one job.
If someone is just "setting up shop", so to speak, a $50 admission fee to get started instead of a $1,000+ outlay would be preferable in every way.
I'm a Creative Cloud user now, and I couldn't be happier. I have all the apps that I use regularly and I have access to everything else too, which opens up new opportunities when clients request things I may not regularly do. In the past, if I didn't have the app I would've had to turn down the work because it wouldn't justify going out and buying another app (or several) for what could be one job.
Additionally, because the software updates regularly I no longer need to shut down productivity for extended periods just to install new versions and reorganize files. I also don't have to deal with a learning curve when updates are done. Everything is incremental, so I learn new features as they arrive, then they make their way into my work flow.
The only thing that will upset actual professionals about this shift is the fact that it's different. People don't like change. The cost isn't an issue when you factor in the increased productivity that comes along with everything and the whole "I shouldn't have to be connected to the Internet" thing is not a problem. You don't have to be connected constantly in the first place, and beyond that any creative professional that actually does work is going to be constantly connected anyway.
I've been very pleased with Creative Cloud and have used apps that I otherwise wouldn't have purchased to generate additional revenue. It's worth every penny.
Adobe likely would've done this 10+ years ago if technology had enabled them to do it back then.
Let's face it. . .Adobe software is some of the most (if not the most) pirated content creation software on the planet. This effectively puts an end to pirating future versions of their most popular content creation tools. There's no telling how many millions of dollars Adobe has lost in revenue over the past 15 or 20 years because of software piracy.
I suspect Microsoft's push of Office 365 is also largely driven by the same desire to effectively end the piracy of that software.
Let's face it. . .Adobe software is some of the most (if not the most) pirated content creation software on the planet. This effectively puts an end to pirating future versions of their most popular content creation tools. There's no telling how many millions of dollars Adobe has lost in revenue over the past 15 or 20 years because of software piracy.
I suspect Microsoft's push of Office 365 is also largely driven by the same desire to effectively end the piracy of that software.
They will say "send it again in a format we specified we can can use."
This is especially true of corporations with inhouse art and media departments. They don't want their assets going anywhere near a network outside of their intranet. And with good reason.