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ios and osx are practically the same at the core OS. There may be extra things like Touch in the iOS stack and a different GUI, but fundamentally the same OS.
People have a short memory, in the original iPhone presentation Steve even said that the iPhone runs OS X. People also think that two things that look different are completely different. So yes, except for a few GUI parts OS X and iOS are already the same.
 
Somehow the idea of making bigger, more powerful devices with a lightweight OS, while making lighter, less powerful devices with a heavyweight OS, seems to be a ridiculous strategy. MS must be excited.
So excited they demo'd their software on the biggest selling tablet. Can't beat um join um ;)
 
Why doesn't this run OS X again?
Because OX X is not touch optimized. This is why Windows 10 shines and was a smart move by Microsoft. Even a crappy $60 tablet from Microcenter is able to run Windows 10, has HDMI out, full size USB, Micro USB host and SD card slot. Again it's crap but at $60 it does more than the iPad on paper. Imagine what a $800 2 in 1 will do.
 
So excited they demo'd their software on the biggest selling tablet. Can't beat um join um ;)

I thought that was interesting too .. MS are headed in the right direction by encouraging platform diversity for its users instead of trying to box everyone in to a single ecosystem.
 
Because OX X is not touch optimized. This is why Windows 10 shines and was a smart move by Microsoft. Even a crappy $60 tablet from Microcenter is able to run Windows 10, has HDMI out, full size USB, Micro USB host and SD card slot. Again it's crap but at $60 it does more than the iPad on paper. Imagine what a $800 2 in 1 will do.

It doesn't need to be when its on a 13 inch screen.
 
Why? I often access my nMP via parallels on my iPad. While its not perfect, there are times it works pretty decently. Plus, last I checked Apple has full control over OS X, so they can add touch capabilities to it, then release an OS X tablet. Why do people seem to think this argument simply means drop the currently implementation of OS X on a tablet and call it a day? Plus if you can run both iOS and OS X stuff, then just use whichever is more convenient at the time. Pull out the keyboard with touch pad for a more laptop experience, as needed, same device.
These are design considerations, so agreement won't be reached. Clearly, Apple think that mixing up a cursor operated OS with a touch one is not a good idea. There are indeed ways to do it somewhat properly, but it is hardly obvious, as evidenced by Microsoft's half-baked implementations to date.
Without going into details, consider that Apple often overrides technical possibilities for the sake of the best user experience - where Apple's customers today are not the same as fifteen years ago.
 
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DO WANT! Although I thought this was somewhat apparent when Adobe mentioned in the keynote that their software can handle 50mp images. I doubt the iPad Air 2 could work with those very well.

For the premium Apple is charging, it really should have 4GB of RAM. Otherwise it's not really much of a Pro device. This will enable a new generation of creative apps unlike anything we've seen before. 4GB of RAM on such a light OS should perform quite well.

I would die and go to heaven if the iPhone 6S had that much RAM, but that's extremely unlikely and 2GB should be plenty for a phone. But I can just imagine none of my tabs ever closing out! My iPad Air 2 can typically hold 12-15 tabs open and the 6S has a lower resolution screen so I'm hopeful the performance will be similar or slightly better.
 
Check the edit I made and look up the difference between A8 vs A8x. iPad mini requires less to drive graphics.
That's only true if the mini has a lower resolution. Run the mini 4 against the Air 2 and the Air 2 will always win. It's not the same performance. Triple core beats single core when the resolution is the same.
 
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That's only true if the mini has a lower resolution. Run the mini 4 against the Air 2 and the Air 2 will always win. It's not the same performance. Triple core beats single core when the resolution is the same.
Yeah, I didn't realize they have the same resolution, BUT the A8X chip sucks up more power and the mini has a smaller battery.
 
"The iPad Prosumer" is more like it.

for those of us who work with desktop class software every minute of every day of our lives ,and use said software in our workflow, why would anyone question our desires for OS X on a tablet - when there are other brands that DO offer such luxuries? you might not see how OS X on a magazine sized tablet using a stylus would be PERFECT for us, but hey - you aren't us, clearly.

if you have a problem with our disappointment in apple for gimping this device when we've been waiting so long for them to crush the surface pro, there's a nifty 'block' feature on this site. so use it.

I'd be more worried by Apple's direction if they did that. OS X needs a lot of work to get it touch ready. And Apple have said many times in the past (including fairly recently) that they're not heading down that path - iOS for touch and OS X for pointer and keyboard. They've u-turned before, but usually there's radio silence for a long time before the u-turn.

To say it's gimped because it doesn't do what you wanted is a little harsh. I would not want it to run full OS X, but had they done it I would've passed it over rather than throw insults because it doesn't fit my use case.

No need for the block button, at least you've explained your desire and backed it up. The annoying ones are those who just scream for features without reason. They find my blocked list easily.

The real boon for the iPad will come as apps start to increase in ability and allow greater/more complex creation. Looking forward to seeing where this device goes.
 
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It's just a super sized iPad - still runs a phone OS, and cannot run OS X applications natively. Reminds me of Windows RT.
I wouldn't call it a phone OS, but a mobile OS. Nothing like Windows RT which is a total failure.
iOS has millions of apps out there, and it's a goldmine for developers.
And in case you don't understand technical information, it's got more than just a bigger display.
 
The iPad of any size is no longer a niche product. The iPad Pro will have great success in this market much quicker than most will expect. In terms of price, that's up to how the purchaser feels and if it's worth it to him/her to make the purchase.
I agree... Can't compare an iPad Pro with a crappy Surface Pro Tablet that tries to be a Desktop.
The iPad's goal is to be the best tablet, and so far it is.
Some people don't like it because either they have no use for it, don't know how to use it or don't want to learn to use it.

I love my iPads and I will buy the iPad Pro. I use it for work, and it usually pays for itself in just a few days.
 
They're ARM-based, not x86. But I do agree that we'll probably see a MBA or MacBook with an AX series processor—or descendant—in the next few years.
Right now Apple's chips are ARM based. Who says that doesn't change in the future and Apple starts making their own x86 chip? They have the experience.
 
These are design considerations, so agreement won't be reached. Clearly, Apple think that mixing up a cursor operated OS with a touch one is not a good idea. There are indeed ways to do it somewhat properly, but it is hardly obvious, as evidenced by Microsoft's half-baked implementations to date.
Without going into details, consider that Apple often overrides technical possibilities for the sake of the best user experience - where Apple's customers today are not the same as fifteen years ago.

I agree to a point, but I'm not sure I would call MS's implementation at this point half-baked. Maybe 3/4 baked. Some applications do realize their on a touch interface and their UI's adjust accordingly. Illustrator is one that comes to mind, where it defaults to touch optimized on the SP3. The office apps will also spread things out to make them more touch friendly. I think the issue is more so the application developers then MS. The tools appear to be there to optimize their apps for mouse/pen/touch so they just have to do it. Mac dev's have always seemed better about keeping their apps up to date with the latest Apple API's, so if Apple were to make some touch api's available to OS X it probably wouldn't take many cycles for applications to start utilizing them. Chicken and egg in a way I guess. But a slightly clunky interface that still lets me use a mouse/keyboard but also allows for touch and runs iOS apps would, in my opinion, be great. Sure Apple doesn't like to push clunky/half-baked stuff out, but they've done it before just marketing it as something else.
 
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