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I understand both sides of the argument, but really, High Sierra was in development for months (that we all know about), and it’s what? 5 days after the release that Adobe puts this out there? Sure, early adopters sometimes get the short end of the stick, but Adobe knew this was coming, just like Microsoft, and Panic, etc.

Every program I have whether it’s PyCharm, IntelliJ, VMware Fusion, or even Visual Studio all run flawlessly in HS, without an update being released. Why is it consistently that Adobe can’t keep up?

Adobe seems to be the only major software studio that can’t keep up. And as has been posted above, it has been every single release that they are behind. Like it caught them off guard. And that simply cannot be the case. Look at the keynote when the touch bar MacBook Pro was released. On stage they talked about how they had been working with Apple for months before the announcement...
 
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Adobe this week recommended customers using its Illustrator and InDesign software hold off from updating to the new macOS High Sierra operating system. Illustrator and InDesign have not been updated for High Sierra and there are some incompatibility issues that prevent the apps from working properly.

With Illustrator, users are seeing errors after upgrading to the new Apple File System. Illustrator pops up errors during installation, and, for already-installed software, there are problems with launching the app, opening a file, and creating a document. A separate problem leads to color management issues, while a third affects the rendering of Brushes, Live Corner widgets, and more.

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While there are workarounds for the GPU issues in Illustrator, there is no fix for the problem with APFS. Adobe says its engineers are working on a complete solution for a future Illustrator CC update.

As for InDesign, the cursor appears as a pixelated box, also a problem with no current solution. Adobe engineers are working on a fix to correct the problem as soon as possible.

Adobe recommends customers test their software on a non-production partition to make sure the update is compatible with current hardware and drivers before committing to a macOS High Sierra install. The company also says customers may wish to remain on an older version of macOS until the issues are addressed in updates.

Following the release of a new Mac update, there are often problems with software for a few weeks as developers work to add in support for new features and address incompatibilities.

For other apps that have issues, take a look at our forums, where MacRumors readers have compiled a comprehensive list of apps that have bugs or are incompatible with the macOS High Sierra update.

Other major apps that don't work properly right now include Autodesk AutoCAD 2017, Civilization V, DiskWarrior 5.0, Ulysses 3, 2Do, and Transmit Version 5, among others.

Also of note, Microsoft Office for Mac 2011 is no longer being updated and is not compatible with macOS High Sierra. Microsoft does not plan to add support for the High Sierra update.

Article Link: Adobe Illustrator and InDesign Not Working Properly with macOS High Sierra
[doublepost=1506782793][/doublepost]Gosh! The sudden and unexpected release of OS must have Adobe caught off guard again. Sure wish Apple released betas months in advance so Adobe would have time to check for compatibility and thereby ensure timely update of Apple and Adobe products.

I know snarky but Adobe is always doing this kind of BS.
 
Adobe is the worst. They can’t hide their competitive contempt for Apple.
 
Not working in the design or advertising industry?
I am. And I recommend Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer. The Affinity Publisher public beta can’t come soon enough…
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Anyone recommend a good alternative to Indesign ?
johannnn forgot to mention that Serif promised an Affinity Publisher (their upcoming InDesign clone) public beta for later this year. Since the other two apps produce bog-standard .eps, .pdf, .tiff, .png, .jpg… you can already incorporate them into your workflow, replacing Ai and Ps and keeping Id for the time being if you have access to a CS version or wish to train yourself in advance of a full switch.
 
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And why would they not be having problems? It's not as if Apple releases beta versions for half a year leading up to the release. No; why would a multi-million dollar corporation have at least a few people working with the upcoming system, when they can just say "Apple only just released High Sierra, and we're working with them to try to fix the problem", when elsewhere a small team of a few people work diligently to make sure their "home-grown" software is ready to run as soon as the final is released.

Have you taken a look at https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/designer/? Not everything that illustrator is, so depend on your needs.

Still chomping at the bit for their InDesign competition: https://twitter.com/MacAffinity/status/913453474465161216
 
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Adobe has taken on Mr. Cook's mindset of selling products an services to lower income users. Everyone can buy the latest iPhone, everyone can buy the lastest versions of Adobe Suites. Problem solved.
 
Exactly!!! Well Said!!
Especially since Adobe are now starting to rip us off with the cost of the subscription packages now! Already pissed me off twice and unfortunately i NEED inDesign to work so i'll be at their throats on Monday morning.

InDesign system requirements: "macOS 10.10, 10.11, or 10.12"

You: mac OS 10.13

Seems OK to me. ;)

If you really depend on InDesign to do work, perhaps you shouldn't blindly upgrade your OS until you verify software compatibility. Adobe is a big enough company that you'd expect them to be on top of this already, but they never claimed it was compatible and every OS upgrade is a chance for an application to stop working, so it's not wise to jump without checking.
 
What a masterclass in contempt from Adobe—AGAIN.

Remember, if you’re using AI for product design you are in a good place to ditch it, in favour of Sketch ecosystem.
 
For any individual users, Affinity deserves your attention.
Only wish they charged once for cross-platform PC and Mac usage.
And move to Final Cut Pro.
Not sure what the inDesign alternatives are, but I'm sure there's something better than Pages.

The equivalent wouldn’t be pages, it would be keynote.
 
General rule of thumb for everyone complaining:
Always wait to upgrade your OS until you are certain your critical apps are known to be functioning properly under the new version. This is as much on you as a user as it is on the developers and Apple.
I have received notices from the developers of half of my regularly-used applications that they are urging users to avoid updating to High Sierra until they can fix the incompatibilities. This isn't just an Adobe issue.
 
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Quark Xpress is still infinitely better... in my opinion.
I hear people say that from time to time, and you might be right. But I still can't get over how Quark forced us to use a dated version for years while they continued to focus their development efforts on improving their Windows version. Their lack of priority on their Mac users gave Adobe sufficient time to develop 3 versions of InDesign to the point of making it a viable alternative. Now it's my go-to. It's going to take a lot more than a bumpy OS update transition to get me to switch back. As much as people complain about Adobe, Quark holds the trophy for being jerks to their user base.
 
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apfs is case sensitive filesystem. all adobe apps behave the same with hfs+ if the fs is set for case sensitive mode.
 
apfs is case sensitive filesystem. all adobe apps behave the same with hfs+ if the fs is set for case sensitive mode.

APFS is available in both case-sensitive and case-insensitive variants, like HFS+ is, on macOS. (On iOS, it is case-sensitive only.) See: https://developer.apple.com/library...Management/Conceptual/APFS_Guide/FAQ/FAQ.html

Case-insensitive is the default. This shouldn't be the problem, but obviously developers should not rely on case insensitivity.
 
Adobe killed Quark...and then became them!
I get that you're unhappy with them, but to put them on the level of Quark is unfair. They made us use that lousy dated version for at least 4 years (5 maybe?) with zero updates, effectively abandoning us to focus on their Windows users. At least Adobe releases updates regularly.
 
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Or, you know, as professionals, perhaps we don't rush ahead and update to the latest operating system version on day one, and then there's no problem? What's so essential in High Sierra that it requires any of us to be guinea pigs for Adobe or Apple? There are plenty of rubes willing to play that game. Let them suffer the consequences.

Honestly, I really question how many of you use your Macs primarily to make money. Because if you did, you wouldn't go anywhere near an OS update until you were certain there were no potential compatibility problems, whether within the OS itself, or within essential third party tools.

Assume all software, always, is buggy. Plan accordingly. Creation a validation process for your essential tools and regression test your most common and necessary combinations before committing to changing your workflow. There's zero excuse for behaving like a consumer when your ability to generate revenue is on the line.

This post is literally my mantra. Well put. :)
 
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