Great, thanks.
All that shenanigans just to check if my Flash is up-to-date and update it (manually!) shows that Flash is stuck in the dark ages.
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Adobe Releases Flash Player 10.2 With 'Stage Video' Hardware Acceleration
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Great, thanks.
All that shenanigans just to check if my Flash is up-to-date and update it (manually!) shows that Flash is stuck in the dark ages.
So all flash stuff must be remade to be touch-friendly. And to support hardware acceleration, too.
What about mobile version?
It crashed browsers for many years (and it was the most big reason they crash on any platform, see firefox crash stats), so browser makers sandboxed plugins.
So let me get this straight: does Flash now benefit from GPU acceleration in every Mac with 128Mb of VRAM or more? Os is it still the same crap about NVIDIA 9400 and a few others?
Last night. CBS.com. Firefox. Their flash app crashes with over 50% of commercial breaks while watching a TV show. Solution: reload page, manually pick a starting place partway through the show. (just like a VCR!)
Now, maybe that's CBS's fault for making a crap player using Flash, whatever. It also wouldn't stream HD, even though I have a very fast connection and it was after 10:30pm CST.
So i tested it out on youttube at 1080p clip and after the buffer got going i was down to like 9 or 10% cpu usage. This also solved many problems i was having with jittery video if i would do an expose or a spaces shift. My machine no longer feels like a slug just to play a youtube clip. I wished adobe had invested this much time and resources into there platform with out pressure from the likes of apple. I honestly do not feel they would have pushed to lower there foot print with out apples pressuring. They i believe have finally solved the desktop performance issues. I am still not ready to have it on my mobile device but i can now see the day when adobe finally has there software in the right spot to make it work. I had a droid with flash it was the worst experience i have ever had on a mobile device. So i can agree it is not ready for prime time but then again flash plug-in for apple was not ready for (prime time) [i mean i used more than 25% CPU] just 18 months ago with flash 10.1, so things change and it seems adobe is stepping up there game which is good for every one.
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I never understood any of this anti--Flash business. I have owned several Macs going back to 2001 (iMacs and MBPs). I have never had a problem with Flash content. Perhaps those with Flash problems should make a Genius appointment or get a better machine.
I never understood any of this anti--Flash business. I have owned several Macs going back to 2001 (iMacs and MBPs). I have never had a problem with Flash content. Perhaps those with Flash problems should make a Genius appointment or get a better machine.
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I just did a quick little test on my mac mini 3,1 (With the 2.26 GHz core 2 duo and the NVIDIA GeForce 9400, ram upgraded to 3 gb) with a 1080p hd video on youtube, and with the flash 10.1 activity monitor said it took around 49%, and after the 10.2 update it only took around 28%! Definitely a improvement already.
I just did a quick little test on my mac mini 3,1 (With the 2.26 GHz core 2 duo and the NVIDIA GeForce 9400, ram upgraded to 3 gb) with a 1080p hd video on youtube, and with the flash 10.1 activity monitor said it took around 49%, and after the 10.2 update it only took around 28%! Definitely a improvement already.
Somehow I have trouble swallowing that. Adobe complained that Apple wouldn't let them put Flash on the iPhone. From that point it took them about 2 *years* before they had their first (poorly performing & flakey) beta of Flash for smart phones.
That can't be right, I just tried that site on my Macbook Air and it was using 38-42% cpu.
Unless I'm on the wrong site?
http://www.jimcarrey.com/
Here's the thing. That's exactly how an API is *supposed* to work. It's supposed to be a hardware-agnostic interface between the application and the machine. You feed it the required data, and you get the expected output. That's what an API *is*. The idea that you need an API that lets you 'have direct access to the decoding hardware' is going back toward the days of DOS, where every application had to have drivers for every piece of hardware (graphics, sound, printers, etc.) that it needed to be able to control.
And let's not ignore the fact that this new API only solved *one* aspect of Flash's performance issues. Video playback. Everything else Flash does is still an inefficient mess. (Though it has gotten better since they started porting to smart phones.)
I have the same phone! What rom are you running? Sounds like bionix by the battery life your getting. It is so sweet!
On My MacBook it pegs at 113%. That's probably because it doesn't have discrete graphics though.
I went to the Jim Carey site, and I was getting 139-150%.
I think so, I have it.Is 10.3.9 the beta?
We've been hearing this for years. Flash is always releasing or will be releasing an update that will revolutionize Flash on all platforms and bring CPU use down to 1% or some other small number. When the update finally comes out, nothing has changed. Just die already Flash.
Wow, this actually does make a lot of difference when watching youTube videos. Been watching a few 720p videos in full screen and the Macbook Pro fan stays off. Looking at the activity monitor history graph (I always have it in the dock), it looks like the CPU doesn't care at all whether you're watching a 720p video on youTube or just casually typing in this here forum. Almost all black on the graph.
You need to download and run the flash uninstaller and then the installer of the new flash version, then restart your browsers when the installer tells you to.
I have one of the first 13" unibody Macbook Pros with NVidia 9400M graphics.
You need to download and run the flash uninstaller and then the installer of the new flash version, then restart your browsers when the installer tells you to.
I have one of the first 13" unibody Macbook Pros with NVidia 9400M graphics.
Exactly this one. Bottomline?
GPU acceleration is only available on the NVIDIA 9400M and a few others instead of what has been advertised (any discrete GPU above 128Mb). I could replicate that as much as you want, but 160% out of 200% it is...RIDICULOUS for a C2D 2.8 iMac with a 512Mb NVIDIA GPU.