Microsoft has 90% market, I wish Apple had 90% of cell phone market. This will backfire very badly for Adobe if it is true. There is no way this case would even make it to a jury.
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Microsoft has 90% market, I wish Apple had 90% of cell phone market. This will backfire very badly for Adobe if it is true. There is no way this case would even make it to a jury.
Is he wrong about the "Fed"? Not really, Sir...the dollar is, indeed, a faith-based currency - just read about it on Foreign Affairs and other publications
Stop spreading disinformation.
Apple has about 15% smartphone marketshare worldwide.
They have 25% in America.
A majority would be 50+.
By enacting that TOS and their previous boycotting of the Flash platform it could be see as predatory, as in purposefully trying to lock Adobe's Flash products out of the market. That could be interpreted as illegal.
Do they still exist?
ADOBE IS DEAD. JUST LIKE MACROMEDIA.
Pystar is no where close of a comparison to Adobe. If Adobe revised it's business model, they could thrive off Acrobat and Photoshop alone. Pystar didn't sell many computers even before the Apple drama and wouldn't have been able to sell any hardware even if Apple was their primary investor.
By whom? There is no general law against being predatory. Please cite the statute Apple is violating.
This has little to do with market-share... though that would make them more vulnerable
With a paltry $18B market cap? With -54.3% earnings growth last year? With a P/E ratio almost double that of Apple? With POS products? I don't think so.
Adobe IS spare change for Apple, which could buy them just for the sake of it.
They legally can do that, they are not locking them out of the market. Now, if they went to MS, Google, and Palm and made a deal to block Flash, then they maybe would be breaking the law.
LOL @ Adobe... What sore losers...
Let me break out my little violin. Oh wait you probably couldn't hear it over Adobe's crying.
Let me break out my little violin. Oh wait you probably couldn't hear it over Adobe's crying.
Especially because Apple's restrictions have NOTHING to do with pushing its own technologies in the same market segment of Flash, but rather to the benefit of HTML5, which is neither owned nor controlled by Apple.
I think the argument will be based on how so many companies now may start adopting HTML5 because Apple refuses to allow Flash as an alternative; and therefore it threatens the existence of Adobe.
It's kinda like the abusing-the-monopoly argument but at the same time I'm not sure if it would stick since Apple as of 2009 only had about a quarter of the smart phone market. But then again I'm not a lawyer.
If this rumor is legitimate; then I think it just means that Adobe wants to show that it takes this very seriously and won't sit by ideally; not sure how successful they're going to be.
It's kinda like the abusing-the-monopoly argument but at the same time I'm not sure if it would stick since Apple as of 2009 only had about a quarter of the smart phone market. But then again I'm not a lawyer.
If this rumor is legitimate; then I think it just means that Adobe wants to show that it takes this very seriously and won't sit by ideally; not sure how successful they're going to be.
Well in that case I am going to sue Random House for not publishing my manifesto about the best types of cheese. It's wrong of them to keep me from the marketplace.
It has everything to do with market share. Apple has no legal obligation to support Flash on iPhone/iPad. They are not blocking Adobe from building apps, in fact Adobe has iPhone apps. They are blocking a 3rd party plug-in.
Even if HTML5 takes over, that doesnt mean the flash sites and apps and web pages are just automatically converted. You know how many companies just outsourced their websites and will have no intention of changing them? HTML5 could be great...someday.
The iPad isn't a cell phone or a smart phone and depending on how the market is defined, they may very well end up with a monopoly soon enough. If that does happen then these types of practices will become a problem. Focusing on whether or not this is illegal ATM is very short sighted.
Hang tough Apple...
Keep fighting of the "genericists" and maintain the highest quality Hardware/Software combo out there. If Adobe, and many others on this thread, have it their way, Apple products will become watered down, generic products on the level of Windows, Android, etc. Keep up the good fight, Apple! For those of you unhappy with Apple, why don't you move on to one of the other non-Apple products out there? If Apple's closed system is so flawed, then the competitors must have better options, right?
Keep fighting of the "genericists" and maintain the highest quality Hardware/Software combo out there. If Adobe, and many others on this thread, have it their way, Apple products will become watered down, generic products on the level of Windows, Android, etc. Keep up the good fight, Apple! For those of you unhappy with Apple, why don't you move on to one of the other non-Apple products out there? If Apple's closed system is so flawed, then the competitors must have better options, right?
Quite the opposite. As ipad-haters have pointed out, the ipod overlaps the functionality of laptops and smartphones. The market is likely to be defined so as to include tablets and netbooks. No way Apple gets a monopoly in that.
To add to that point, does anyone remember Quark, the industry standard for print? They were extremely late to getting a version of Quark running natively on OSX. In the meantime, Adobe was able to introduce and secure mass adoption of the newly released InDesign. I use CS daily in my line of work. If they pulled CS from Macs, I would be forced run creative suite in Bootcampwhich I would only do in the interim.
The moment an alternative to CS was available on the Mac, I would transition over quickly. I imagine that there are a lot of creatives who would do the same.
Perhaps Adobe should remember what happened with Quark. Quark refused to play along with Apple back then. Where are they now?
I believe you mean, MISinformation. Have a look at this:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/apple-responsible-for-994-of-mobile-app-sales-in-2009.ars
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I hate Adobe and Flash ok! I am simply saying this wouldn't be as simple of a case as you might think! It could very well end up being a precedent. I do think Apple would most likely win though.
Just registering my support for Apple on this one.
Adobe is the very definition of NOT supporting Apple's platform features and lowest common denominator products.
Not wanted here!
Adobe is the very definition of NOT supporting Apple's platform features and lowest common denominator products.
Not wanted here!