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That's just silly.

A Calculator built into the watch by default is one of THE most basic things it should have.
Needing a 3rd party app, which means you need you phone on you, just to use a calculator is totally crazy.
It's THE most simple thing to implement on any computer and should be right there built in, God knows why Apple did not put this in.

has anyone tried asking siri to do the calculations?
Siri what is 23 X 75?

Exactly my response too. I'd assume Siri has the same capabilities on the watch as it does your phone, thus I'd use Siri.

Thinking about it from a human interface perspective, it would be pretty hard to display all the right numbers and operations on a watch screen ...

At the end of the day, there are just SOME things the Watch won't be able to replace from the phone, or doing it the same way.
 
has anyone tried asking siri to do the calculations?
Siri what is 23 X 75?


Yes, it works like a charm, perfect in fact.

I said very softly but very close up, hey siri what is 4+8*9/12 said answer is 10

Works well enough for me and better than pecking out on keypad.
 
Here's what I HATE:

* No Podcasts app. I like to listen to Podcasts in the gym and want to leave my phone in the locker.

I can get around this by changing the Media Type of the Podcasts to "Music" in iTunes, dumping them into a Playlist, and then syncing this to the watch with my phone. This is stupidly long-winded for what should be stupidly easy

* Bluetooth setup is HORRIBLE. I use a pair of Plantronic FIT. For the above to work, I need to swap the Bluetooth pairing between headset > phone, and headset > watch. This seems OK; the watch is able to grab the connection simply by clicking on the device. It falls apart when I try to re-pair the headset with the phone. I have to stick the watch into Airplane mode, just to shake off the connection to the headset, so the phone can grab it back.

TBH, the way the iPhone handles Bluetooth devices has always been ghastly. There's no way to disconnect the devices, you're simply forced to switch off Bluetooth or "Forget the device". But throw the Watch into the mix *which relies on Bluetooth to do 90% of things* and you have a huge mess. "Disconnect Bluetooth Device". Is that so difficult, Apple?

Switching Bluetooth headsets between two devices that are interlinked seems counter-productive anyway. A good idea would be for phone to be able to use whatever the watch is paired to output sound, then there would be no need to switch between the two.(Since the devices are co-dependent, nothing would be lost).

These are by far my biggest bugbears so far.
 
A software update can fix all that.

sure, but considering they have worked on the software for 3 years and it's that buggy/lacking, I would not expect everything to work like magic in Watch OS 1.1

it's going to take a native SDK for things to become more interesting, and that won't happen for months; and when that happens we'll need a Watch 2.0 with better battery life to support this kind of apps
 
These problems really aren't as big a deal as they seem and for a first gen product the Watch is incredible and works very well. Also, the complaint about notifications not syncing isn't valid as all my notifications are syncing with no problems.

Really, what makes it incredible? Seriously. over $1,000 for a SS watch that does not even tell you the time when you want it to, say a quick subtle glance who stuck in a meeting - how about if I could push a button like the 1972 PULSAR (Google it, the first digital watch, you pushed a button to check the time to save battery)

$1,000 for a stainless steel watch. Jobs had nothing on Cook and his "Golly Gosh, I've wanted to talk to my wrist since i was five" pitch for screwing customers. Also, if these things get some killer feature in the future - I reserve the right to come back here talking about how much i love my watch.
 
My main complaint is battery life. I used it today the first time for a full day. Took it on at 7 am and at 8 pm the watch went into power savings mode. Not great. Of course it was my first full day with the watch and I may have played more with it then I will in the future but actually not a lot because it was a busy day and I had plenty of other stuff to do. . .
 
That's just silly.

A Calculator built into the watch by default is one of THE most basic things it should have.
Needing a 3rd party app, which means you need you phone on you, just to use a calculator is totally crazy.
It's THE most simple thing to implement on any computer and should be right there built in, God knows why Apple did not put this in.

I couldn't disagree more. The watch interface is just too small to be practical for a calculator, unless you can't add 2 + 2. If you need to do simple arithmetic, use Siri. If you want to do serious calculations use the HP Calculator App for the iPhone. A lot of tasks that you do on an iPhone are just not practical on the watch and it seems most of the complaints are from those that unreasonably want the watch to do everything the iPhone does. IMHO the watch is met to do simple things in a more convenient and personal way and to be controlled mainly by Siri to avoid putting your big fat fingers on the watch face. Experiment with Siri to set reminders, send e-mail or messages or make a call. I'm sure the watch can be discovered by BT in your car as well, to play music or make and receive calls.
 
That's just silly.

A Calculator built into the watch by default is one of THE most basic things it should have.
Needing a 3rd party app, which means you need you phone on you, just to use a calculator is totally crazy.
It's THE most simple thing to implement on any computer and should be right there built in, God knows why Apple did not put this in.

yep. ipad has the same problem. iPhone comes with a calc. iPad does not. nor does iPad come with a stocks app.

Apple knows best :/

I couldn't disagree more. The watch interface is just too small to be practical for a calculator, unless you can't add 2 + 2. If you need to do simple arithmetic, use Siri.

iPad must be too small as well then.


There is nothing what-so-ever wrong with this:

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yep. ipad has the same problem. iPhone comes with a calc. iPad does not. nor does iPad come with a stocks app.

Apple knows best :/



iPad must be too small as well then.


There is nothing what-so-ever wrong with this:

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Except that it's not really a native watch app and depends on your iPhone to run!
 
Really, what makes it incredible? Seriously. over $1,000 for a SS watch that does not even tell you the time when you want it to, say a quick subtle glance who stuck in a meeting - how about if I could push a button like the 1972 PULSAR (Google it, the first digital watch, you pushed a button to check the time to save battery)

$1,000 for a stainless steel watch. Jobs had nothing on Cook and his "Golly Gosh, I've wanted to talk to my wrist since i was five" pitch for screwing customers. Also, if these things get some killer feature in the future - I reserve the right to come back here talking about how much i love my watch.

Not really sure why you're basing you're argument off the $1,000 SS Watch when at that point you're just spending money on the higher quality materials, but can get the same functionality from the sport model for $350, but ok. Anyways, I've had no problems telling the time with my watch. It shows the time for me maybe 19 out of 20 times which is more than enough for me and for the times that it doesn't, a light tap on the display will show the time. Does your watch not do this? Even slight glances at my watch turn it on for me.

Everything I've done with the watch has worked perfectly for me. Using it as a silent alarm is awesome, notifications and subsequently acting on those notifications, works perfectly as well. Similarly, dictating message replies is significantly better than it is using Siri on my phone. Answering phone calls when my hands have been full has been surprisingly convenient (I actually thought this was gonna be a dumb feature, but it's quickly becoming very useful). I've used a few third party apps and while they're a bit slow (really not as slow as reviews made them out to be), they also don't seem very useful. Many apps are just better to use on the phone and I get the feeling that developers don't really know how to design for the watch at the moment causing their apps to either do too little or do way too much. The only apps I've stuck to using are Things and Calcbot.

For working out the watch isn't a necessity. Not in the slightest. The thing is, it doesn't have to be. During my workout yesterday it made it more interesting and fun. Seeing my stats, time, calories burned, heart rate, and setting/beating goals for myself during the workout made it genuinely motivating to work harder and take shorter rest times between my sets in order to achieve those goals. The same goes for seeing my daily activity goals and completing each ring; seeing the rings fill up throughout the day yesterday and today is an interesting and fun stat to be able to quickly look at.

Lastly, the battery has been significantly better than I anticipated. It made it through the whole day yesterday with plenty to spare even under heavy usage (constant demo's to friends along with me playing with it and customizing watch faces and settings) and by the looks of it it'll be doing even better today.

So yes, for a first gen product I'd say it's pretty incredible. Everything I've wanted it to do, it does well. And the things I didn't think would be useful at all (phone calls, working out with it, setting workout/activity goals) turned out to be a lot more fun/convenient/useful than I thought. Obviously there are bugs here and there, I'm not saying the watch is perfect -- it's not, but for a first gen product you can tell a lot of thought and effort went into it. In the end, this is just my opinion.
 
Not really sure why you're basing you're argument off the $1,000 SS Watch when at that point you're just spending money on the higher quality materials, but can get the same functionality from the sport model for $350, but ok. Anyways, I've had no problems telling the time with my watch. It shows the time for me maybe 19 out of 20 times which is more than enough for me and for the times that it doesn't, a light tap on the display will show the time. Does your watch not do this? Even slight glances at my watch turn it on for me.

Everything I've done with the watch has worked perfectly for me. Using it as a silent alarm is awesome, notifications and subsequently acting on those notifications, works perfectly as well. Similarly, dictating message replies is significantly better than it is using Siri on my phone. Answering phone calls when my hands have been full has been surprisingly convenient (I actually thought this was gonna be a dumb feature, but it's quickly becoming very useful). I've used a few third party apps and while they're a bit slow (really not as slow as reviews made them out to be), they also don't seem very useful. Many apps are just better to use on the phone and I get the feeling that developers don't really know how to design for the watch at the moment causing their apps to either do too little or do way too much. The only apps I've stuck to using are Things and Calcbot.

For working out the watch isn't a necessity. Not in the slightest. The thing is, it doesn't have to be. During my workout yesterday it made it more interesting and fun. Seeing my stats, time, calories burned, heart rate, and setting/beating goals for myself during the workout made it genuinely motivating to work harder and take shorter rest times between my sets in order to achieve those goals. The same goes for seeing my daily activity goals and completing each ring; seeing the rings fill up throughout the day yesterday and today is an interesting and fun stat to be able to quickly look at.

Lastly, the battery has been significantly better than I anticipated. It made it through the whole day yesterday with plenty to spare even under heavy usage (constant demo's to friends along with me playing with it and customizing watch faces and settings) and by the looks of it it'll be doing even better today.

So yes, for a first gen product I'd say it's pretty incredible. Everything I've wanted it to do, it does well. And the things I didn't think would be useful at all (phone calls, working out with it, setting workout/activity goals) turned out to be a lot more fun/convenient/useful than I thought. Obviously there are bugs here and there, I'm not saying the watch is perfect -- it's not, but for a first gen product you can tell a lot of thought and effort went into it. In the end, this is just my opinion.

Thanks, I know how exciting it is to have a new gadget. I hope you get as many years of joy out of it as I have from my collection of watches I still wear as need or in rotation. Watches are always a good value for there timeless heirloom like characteristics when they are well crafted like the Apple watch is. Enjoy!
 
Glitch!!

Tried making a video while starting music via BT from my watch (to stereo fitted with BT). Hitting play on the watch froze the camera app! Also froze the Instagram camera when I tried recording video
 
My wife and I share a reminders list for groceries. Checking things off via phone is tough. Having the list on the watch and just being able to check them off as we put them in the cart would be a valuable use case to solve.


I've been using the Wunderlist app for the past year for this. I have my own various lists but I have shared grocery and household tasks lists that my husband and I use together. This is the only third party app that I've tried so far on the watch that matches its usefulness on the phone.
 
After using two of them today for a few hours here's what surprised me: the physical watch wasn't too big, awkward or oddly sized, it actually fit very well; the software is just awkward, unpolished and not what I expect from Apple. I'm actually very disappointed because I really wanted to like it but also very surprised given I was expecting to love the software but hate the watch.
 
That looks perfect.
That should be built into the watch as standard.
Probably be able to be programmed in 1k even! :)

Excellent.

This is the current offering on the app store by TinyCalc....
 

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Here's what I HATE:

* No Podcasts app. I like to listen to Podcasts in the gym and want to leave my phone in the locker.

I can get around this by changing the Media Type of the Podcasts to "Music" in iTunes, dumping them into a Playlist, and then syncing this to the watch with my phone. This is stupidly long-winded for what should be stupidly easy

* Bluetooth setup is HORRIBLE. I use a pair of Plantronic FIT. For the above to work, I need to swap the Bluetooth pairing between headset > phone, and headset > watch. This seems OK; the watch is able to grab the connection simply by clicking on the device. It falls apart when I try to re-pair the headset with the phone. I have to stick the watch into Airplane mode, just to shake off the connection to the headset, so the phone can grab it back.

TBH, the way the iPhone handles Bluetooth devices has always been ghastly. There's no way to disconnect the devices, you're simply forced to switch off Bluetooth or "Forget the device". But throw the Watch into the mix *which relies on Bluetooth to do 90% of things* and you have a huge mess. "Disconnect Bluetooth Device". Is that so difficult, Apple?

Switching Bluetooth headsets between two devices that are interlinked seems counter-productive anyway. A good idea would be for phone to be able to use whatever the watch is paired to output sound, then there would be no need to switch between the two.(Since the devices are co-dependent, nothing would be lost).

These are by far my biggest bugbears so far.

You can use the overcasts app to listen to podcasts on the Apple watch.
 
Eighteen hours of usage and I'm impressed with what Apple has created. This from a guy that wasn't going to buy one to begin with. I fully appreciate it for what it is. I don't hate anything.

But then again, I'm a very positive person that doesn't hate. I choose happiness that doesn't depend on "stuff".

I have an appreciation for all things tech, so I bought this for the first hand experience. I'll use it, learn it well, and then make a decision as to its usefulness or not. I don't know yet if it offers any benefit for my preferences.

I do use and rely on a SUUNTO Ambit 3 sports fitness tracking watch. With its iPhone App and dedicated community web site that is an amazing tool, the benefits are endless. A competitor in several sports, it's crucial to my enjoyment and success. Very rugged, feature packed and designed by a company with years of experience, nothing comes close.
 
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