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Says the guy with Apple for Life in his signature, lol.

I admit when Apple screws with it's customers. My signature has nothing to do with it.

Apple is notorious for doing this, but the :apple:-fanboys don't care because they are willing lemmings to Steve Jobs.

Mind you I own a Mac Pro, Powerbook G4 and a Win7 netbook, so it's not like I succumb to all things APple
 
Come on people, its like telling BLizzard that you can't play Starcraft 2 on your Ati Rage3D card (well its not that drastic but you get the point).

I had a 3G and upgraded to a 4 when it came out and the 4 just runs circles around the antiquated 3G
 
I don't care. Just make the 3G not suck anymore!

Even after the 4.1 update, I still find certain things are incredibly slow. For instance, the email app will sometimes be unresponsive for 10 minutes at a time before becoming usable again. I don't care what advanced features they don't include. I just want the 3G to be as fast as it was with 3.1.3.
 
Time for us to all move to MS

QFT

Sorry, brother, if you meant it sarcastic. But actually it is a really tough situation here.

Even if I was willing to buy an iPad or a new iPod Touch, I couldn't use it. They require iCrap10. I am still on a PowerPC Powerbook (and it still does everything I need it to do fine - and some things even better than your Intel Mac - like cutting MP3s in a Quicktime Player). No iCrap10 for me - so basically no iPad, new iPhone and the other stuff for me.

Well, Windows XP - a real legacy OS - is still supported on iCrap10. But not Tiger.

Even worse - Windows XP gets Safari5 - Tiger is left in the dust.

Long story short - Windows 7 is looking better each and every day for my next computer purchase as Apple will support old Windows versions longer than their OSes. I'm currently on Android for my phone, wanted a white iPhone4 - go figure. Next phone will be *gasp* Windows Mobile - if Apple Consumer Electronics doesn't get their act together.
 
Quit you whining... Seriously is $199 THAT MUCH for a device that has a 2 year lifespan?

The iPhone 3G sells for $200 on ebay or Craigslist...

a New iPhone 4 is $200...

Why not sell it and upgrade for FREE?
 
Apple doesn't say you have to but when you plug it into iTunes, they do recommend upgrading.
iphoneios4update.jpg

How many people just clicked update because they trusted Apple?

And anytime you have a phone issue AT&T won't talk to you unless you have update to the most recent iOS.

I didn't want to "upgrade" to 4.1, but they told me to when I was having a phone issue. Now my 3GS is not as snappy.
 
Total bull. Considering it was on sale earlier this year. Worst part is that we know it WAS compatible and usable, Apple just decided to remove it.

Apple already tried to add a lot of functionality to legacy 3G phones (which, aside from an antenna change, are pretty much the same inside as the FIRST iPhone). It made the 3Gs run too slowly, and what happens? Some stupid woman tries to file a lawsuit over it. I would cut off legacy hardware too, or for no other reason than to avoid giving people who are too cheap to upgrade or buy something besides the $99 option a reason to complain even more. Buy the cheap one, get the cheap one. Don't expect sympathy from those of us who didn't skimp when it mattered.
 
Staring in the Rearview Mirror

It is indeed tough to see your beloved products *slowly* become obsolete. Many others have captured my sentiment, but must add that the mobile market isn't standing still. You really want Apple to continue to stare in the rearview mirror fixing/updating/maintaining the phone platform they shipped 2+ years ago. No thanks.

I, for one, love to see the compromise that is being made on the iOS platform. No iPhone is obsolete, it is just that some are able to take advantage of the newest hardware.
 
damn this is something microsoft would do. Thats the company that made it so that it will ban you from fricking xbox live if u put in custom fans >: ( seriously talk about jackasses
 
"Apple came out with software updates that crippled my 3G! How could they sabotage my crappy phone's performance to include these features the hardware can't handle???"

2 weeks later...

"Apple is cancelling new features for my beloved iPhone 3G? How could they rob me of this feature that my phone was never designed to handle???"

God bless the internet :)

Spot-on
 
Apple already tried to add a lot of functionality to legacy 3G phones (which, aside from an antenna change, are pretty much the same inside as the FIRST iPhone). It made the 3Gs run too slowly, and what happens? Some stupid woman tries to file a lawsuit over it. I would cut off legacy hardware too, or for no other reason than to avoid giving people who are too cheap to upgrade or buy something besides the $99 option a reason to complain even more. Buy the cheap one, get the cheap one. Don't expect sympathy from those of us who didn't skimp when it mattered.

Couldn't agree more!
 
Apple doesn't earn anything with doing upgrades for a 3G....more than clear why they just remove working features from old handsets. Especially if u think about the only difference between the 3g and the 3gs (speed), there must be a reason for people to at least upgrade to the 3gs.
The 4.0 update was nothing but a slap in the face for all 3g owners...delivering nothing new that was worth the laggy system. Keep in mind you might have bought a 3g at one stage and you could use it every day without any laggs and with almost all the functionality as of today. Of course a new product always has to work right?
Now 2 yrs later the phone is mainly one thing; slow. why? So that you go buy a new phone. Don't get me wrong...thats nothing the other manufacturers havent done before....but if a 3g would work well why buy a 3gs then?

I never owned a 3g, but i got a ipod touch 2g and been playing with a friends 3g (and i got a 4g for comparison) but i would be pissed if my once snappy 4g is getting useless in 2yrs because of being too slow to type,chat, surf or do whatever else i have been doing fine just 2 yrs ago.....
 
You really want Apple to continue fixing/updating/maintaining the phone platform they shipped 2+ years ago.

Yes. After blowing nearly a thousand dollars a year on these portable computers, and committing twelve hundred dollars a year to the service they require, it would be nice if they would continue to support them for longer than 24 months.

Oh what, to "keep up" with trendy kids with disposable income, 10million people are supposed to what, throw their otherwise good devices in the garbage? Where are all these millions of iphones supposed to go once they've been deemed outdated?

They pulled this kind of crap to phase out the 2g when it was perfectly capable of handling the load, and now they're moving on to the 3G. It's not rocket science, it's planned obsolescence, just like the 10million ipads they sold this first year, with the $5 camera insert removed but the space & hooks in the OS remaining, so that everyone will buy another one a year later when they "magically" include it again.

Making your new products better is great. Planning a product line lineage is understandable. Actively crippling your customers existing products just to generate sales and more landfill fodder is lame.
 
I think that's the point.....just in June some folks were able to buy this device, which now is actually performing worse than when they first bought it.

People keep saying that, but I want to know who on here actually was one of those? If so, you already knew the 4 was coming out, you already knew it was 2 years old, why did you buy it knowing that?

Cause I suspect those who bought it back in June are mostly those who aren't really going to care about having the latest and greatest. THey probably only know about updates if their itunes (if they even bother connecting that often) tells them there is an upgrade. They knew there was a more expensive iphone probably but just wanted a cheap smartphone that did the basics.
 
Things like these are the reason why Apple loses marketshare in the smartphone market for over a year now.
 
QFT

Sorry, brother, if you meant it sarcastic. But actually it is a really tough situation here.

Even if I was willing to buy an iPad or a new iPod Touch, I couldn't use it. They require iCrap10. I am still on a PowerPC Powerbook (and it still does everything I need it to do fine - and some things even better than your Intel Mac
Well, Windows XP - a real legacy OS - is still supported on iCrap10. But not Tiger.

Well obviously it doesn't, otherwise you could upgrade to the next "iCrap10" device as you call it and run on your oh so awesome PowerPC Mac. LOL.

Maybe the reason for the XP support from Apple is because most people (outside of buying a new PC) haven't upgraded to Windows Crap 7 and there's a larger base of people. Or the fact that Windows technologies haven't really changed much since Windows 2000 Professional and its easy for them to support an age old OS. Ever thought of that? ;)
 
Yes. After blowing nearly a thousand dollars a year on these portable computers, and committing twelve hundred dollars a year to the service they require, it would be nice if they would continue to support them for longer than 24 months.

You can't add in the cost for the service you receive to the price of the phone. You didn't pay $1000 for the phone. Adding features is not the same as supporting the device. I'm sure you will continue to receive security updates as needed.
 
Your signature states otherwise. Did you forget what you wrote? You're keeping Apple debt free, you must be made of money. ;)

Actually, I did forget what is in my signature. :)

By far lamest comment I've seen today. ;)

Just trying to add to the overall tone of this thread.

I rolled my 3G back to iOS 3.x.x (after the 4.0 speed limit) and it was more tolerable, but with 5 email accounts and the unified inbox, I couldn't stay away once 4.1 came out.

I was holding out for a white iPhone 4 but my normally heroic "delayed gratification" strength is diminishing quickly. I'm hoping 4.2 will bring back some much-needed speed and efficiency.
 
Yeah....

Because when you're so *cheap*, you still wanted to go with the old 3G model to save a few bucks (despite the contract costing more than the phone within just a few months worth of service on it!)? I say, people like that get what they get -- meaning a good, working phone that does everything well it was intended to do well at the time of its release! Quit trying to load the latest firmware on them and use them like they're a more expensive iPhone 4 and they'll work ok. (Heck, they won't even suffer from the signal strength problems when you hold it a certain way... so bonus for them, right?)


Except that people buying an iPhone for the 1st time may have chose an iPhone 3G back in late May or early June (they don't know about the rumors) and now there 5 month old iPhone 3G is wicked slow, and can't even run anything.
 
Of course!

(As I sit here and wait for Sanyo to upgrade my Android Zio phone from the version 1.6 OS it shipped with to at LEAST 2.1, which would still be one whole major Android release behind what's current.....)


Because Android devices are always up to date?
 
Maybe the reason for the XP support from Apple is because most people (outside of buying a new PC) haven't upgraded to Windows Crap 7 and there's a larger base of people. Or the fact that Windows technologies haven't really changed much since Windows 2000 Professional and its easy for them to support an age old OS. Ever thought of that? ;)

Or, perhaps the reason is that Microsoft realizes that its 95% market share is due in part to its support for older systems - for not forcing the customer base to discard hardware/software every year or so.

And, in fact, Windows technologies have had many big changes since Win2K. Microsoft, however, has avoided the lazy route ("lazy programmers", capisci?) of disabling support for older systems, and has taken the much harder route of adding support for new technologies without crippling software written to older APIs.

Ever thought of that?
 
Oh no... here we go again.

A load of people complaining that their 2-3 year old piece of kit don't work with software features coming out later.

Probably the same people who moan when a better tariff/plan comes from their mobile provider AFTER they have made their contracts...

You must really enjoy shelling out money for no reason what-so-ever. I could send you my address and you could send some to me since you obviously have no use for it. :p
 
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