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All-New Mac Pro Launches Thursday, December 19 Starting at $2999

Spinland said:
This.
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This kind of post kills me. There are people who take their work just as seriously as the 'Pro' that you undoubtedly think are the only people with a god given right to own these things.

It's expensive. You might be using it for something you are interested in studying, is then deductible?
 
H2SO4 said:
This kind of post kills me. There are people who take their work just as seriously as the 'Pro' that you undoubtedly think are the only people with a god given right to own these things.
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It's not a matter of seriousness nor of intent on the part of the would-be owner. It's an acceptance of the price points chosen in the context of the target audience for the device. I like Apple but I'm not about to elevate Tim Cook to a god, not yet.
 
ericinboston said:
This Pro is far too niche...price starts at $2999 which comes with 12GB ram and a tiny 256GB drive...not to mention the max memory is 64GB.

Basically Apple has nothing in between the $1200 iMac and this $3000 Pro...it's either pay out the wazzooooo for the Mac Pro (and in my opinion get a poorly-user-upgradeable system) which Apple thinks is the world's best Workstation (but it maxes out at 64GB and a single CPU) or get a mom & dad-class home desktop with a monitor us techies probably don't need/care for. Oh...but I can buy the Mini for $600 that has 0 upgradeability, a poor 5400-rpm drive (seriously, Apple?!), 4GB ram, and no keyboard/mouse. Beefing the Mini up to 8GB ram and a better i7 chip will run you up to $1000....before your keyboard/mouse which is another $100+.

Other than some diehard Mac addicts THAT ALSO HAVE a need for Xeon chips, this Pro is ridiculously expensive while offering very little upgradeability (other than at time of purchase and 300% Apple markups).

If Apple were to make a box/workstation that was priced between $900 and $2500 that were more like Wintel workstations/pro-sumer desktops, I (and others) would be buying them like hotcakes. I don't need a monitor so the iMac is just a huge waste of desk space (as well as 0 upgradeability).

<sigh>yet another decade without a reasonably-priced, appealing desktop/workstation from Apple.
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I agree, there needs to be something in between. The Mac Pro is a good machine and worth every penny, that is if you need that type of class machine. I just want to do a little freelance and hobby stuff at home with modeling and illustration, and a little gaming. I'm sure the iMac can do nicely, I just don't need the monitor.

Though, at work, I'm honestly surprised I can get by with the first 2006 Intel Mac Pro, 2 x 2.66ghz dual-core xeon with 30" cinema. It helps me think if I had to spend $3k-$4k on one of these new Mac Pros I'll know the speed/reliability will last long enough to make that investment worth while.

After coming back to Macs after a decade, I ended up settling on a Mac Book Pro Retina for decent silent machine at home that can handle what I need and the ability to take it on the go. I'd still love to have one of these Mac Pros, and I'll probably get to try it out when my job orders a replacement machine for these old ones.
 
Why are they 33% more expensive here in Australia?

US $2999
Adjust for exchange rate comes to $3363
Add our 10% GST and the price should be $3699

Why are we paying $300 more?
 
I haven't got a chance to fully research these new Mac Pros but I was wondering, if one works in broadcast and needs to work with a Black Magic Card or any video capturing Cards at that, what are the options for this System?

Edit: I see that Black Magic now makes a Thunderbolt unit that acts as an in between for this need. Got it.
 
H2SO4 said:
This kind of post kills me. There are people who take their work just as seriously as the 'Pro' that you undoubtedly think are the only people with a god given right to own these things.

It's expensive. You might be using it for something you are interested in studying, is then deductible?
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Nobody said they don't deserve them. If they want them then more power to them. We we're talking about the people who are complaining about the price.

If you want one in spite of the fact that you don't actually need it, then you shouldn't be complaining about the price.

I don't fall into the category of a Pro, but I will likely buy one just because I love having really cool computers, even if I can't take advantage of their power except on very rare occasions.

And no, if you are not using it as part of a business then it is not tax deducible.
 
handsome pete said:
I agree with you, but I don't think that's ever a good argument stance. The only qualified price comparisons should really be made about what competitors offer or what you can build.
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Genuinely curious about this, but it's hard to pin anything down. I know the HP Z820 comes in a 24 core starting at $9,999... but besides the dual Xeons it is otherwise miserably equipped... 16GB RAM, 240GB SATA SSD + 1TB 7200RPM...

Build-To-Order system is so bad I don't really know what I'm ordering when I click on things.
 
Lancer said:
Why are they 33% more expensive here in Australia?

US $2999
Adjust for exchange rate comes to $3363
Add our 10% GST and the price should be $3699

Why are we paying $300 more?
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NZ too, except much worse.

US $2999
Adjust for our exchange rate: $3655 NZD
Add 15% GST: $4203 NZD
Probably add a little more for shipping and other fees.. still about $700 unaccounted for. Apple are selling it here for $4999
 
Chastepenofunny said:
I made an account just to tell you that was not funny nor clever. What the **** is wrong with the people on this website?
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I have to agree. That was about the least funny and clever post I have seen. I suppose a 10 year old might find it funny. But just changing a couple of words in an entire song demonstrates zero creativity.
 
They must be waiting for the wee hours of the night, so they don't run into similar problems as healthcare.gov did :eek:

Come on, update already.
 
prowlmedia said:
Please enlighten us why? The mac pro would have been the 8th fastest computer on earth only 10 years ago... and would have cost Many Million What are you finding ridiculous?
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1999 I was paying over $50,000.00 just for one SGI Octane workstation. I'll take these new prices any day.
 
I hope I can order the three I need before they sell out. I think demand will be insane for these new machines. I'm definitely not going to bed until I've got my order placed.
 
now we are freaking happy its out till the price hits you again and again n your card just refuses to step up to the challenge :rolleyes:
 
Nunyabinez said:
I don't fall into the category of a Pro, but I will likely buy one just because I love having really cool computers, even if I can't take advantage of their power except on very rare occasions.
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Agreed. And maybe the concept of what is a "Pro" in this context doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, especially given for many people on this site English isn't their native tongue.

The actual definition might take several forms, but IMO the most standardized one might best be illustrated by analogy: what's the main difference between a "professional" athlete and all other kinds? Not necessarily skill level; a "Pro" gets paid to play. It's as simple as that.

A "Pro" user of this computer, according to how I define the term, is going to get paid for what he/she creates using it. Again, it's that simple. For such a person the price of the computer is mitigated by two factors: 1) they are going to make the price back plus interest--it's an investment not a cost, and 2) they are almost certainly going to be able to mitigate the capital outlay by a tax deduction.

Apple knows this very well, and since that sort of user is their target for this machine they are under no pressure to slash the price down to attract consumers or even "prosumers."
 
WestonHarvey1 said:
Genuinely curious about this, but it's hard to pin anything down. I know the HP Z820 comes in a 24 core starting at $9,999... but besides the dual Xeons it is otherwise miserably equipped... 16GB RAM, 240GB SATA SSD + 1TB 7200RPM...

Build-To-Order system is so bad I don't really know what I'm ordering when I click on things.
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At this point it's difficult to know what is really comparable because we don't have solid benchmarks of the various configurations of the nMP.

I have a Hackintosh that has a 2600k and a mid-level Nvidia graphics card. It is relatively on par with my 2012 maxed out iMac.

It was much cheaper, however it is not completely like a Mac. It's pretty stable, but mystery things happen, like the blu-tooth adapter will stop working and I'll have to unplug it and put it back in to get my keyboard and mouse to work.

If I were doing production level work, I would get a real Mac.
 
Gasu E. said:
I think what he was trying to say was basically, "worst post ever."
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I certainly think it was a lame post, personally, but IMO it didn't merit all the trouble to create a forum account merely to say so. That seemed rather extreme to me. The censored diatribe aimed at the forum in general also seemed a bit much.
 
WestonHarvey1 said:
Genuinely curious about this, but it's hard to pin anything down. I know the HP Z820 comes in a 24 core starting at $9,999... but besides the dual Xeons it is otherwise miserably equipped... 16GB RAM, 240GB SATA SSD + 1TB 7200RPM...

Build-To-Order system is so bad I don't really know what I'm ordering when I click on things.
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It's not miserably equipped as much as it's barebones. The one thing I love about configuring systems on HP's and Dell's site is that I do at times have the option to get the machine with no RAM, HDDs, PCIe cards, etc.

You're paying that $9,999 for the 24 cores, and they'll throw in an SSD and some RAM just incase you need a working system out of the box.

In my experience, we've spent more time pulling stock components and unboxing than installing new systems. By the time I left, my old storage room had close to 110 500GB HDDs from the circa 2006 Mac Pros we ordered for the student labs, most of them pulled the day we got the machines.

Nunyabinez said:
If I were doing production level work, I would get a real Mac.
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Totally agree. I'd love to dabble in the Hackintosh world if I ever stopped using my systems for freelance side gig work.
 
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