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All-New Mac Pro Launches Thursday, December 19 Starting at $2999

Ok, now we know that they will be available for "pre-order" tomorrow. Next question is "how long before they start shipping"?

The string-along game continues….:confused:
 
Lancer said:
Why are they 33% more expensive here in Australia?

US $2999
Adjust for exchange rate comes to $3363
Add our 10% GST and the price should be $3699

Why are we paying $300 more?
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To pay for the extra year of warranty Australia makes apple provide. :)
 
Lancer said:
Why are they 33% more expensive here in Australia?

US $2999
Adjust for exchange rate comes to $3363
Add our 10% GST and the price should be $3699

Why are we paying $300 more?
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Everyone forgets that the US have to pay tax on top of the figure quoted...by varies by state... for example it's about $260 in california... some states are cheaper. Some more.

try it on the US store... using 90210 ( the only zip code I know )

We get screwed in the UK because of VAT at 20% and import duties etc. but that's all included in the quoted price so appears like we are getting shafted by Apple - but it's the government.
 
People keep calling this a 'desktop'... it's not a desktop machine. It's a workstation with workstation class performance. This isn't even in the same ballpark as the iMac, or even your buddies gaming system. This is for people who work in the professional visual arts who need more horsepower than simply photo editing or similar work. You're not going to see a lot of Photoshop or Illustrator designers jumping on board. Even a lot of HD video editors won't make the leap, as the iMac more than fills their needs. But motion-graphic artists, 3D animators, CAD designers, and some specialty math/science fields will definitely benefit in a big way from this system.
 
zen said:
It's neat, easily stackable, and with internal angles all 90 degrees there is probably room for internal expansion.
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there's room for expansion in the circle one.. i guess the computer was designed for about 8TB internal storage (2x4TB)..
they'll trickle it out though.
 
Nunyabinez said:
Nobody said they don't deserve them. If they want them then more power to them. We we're talking about the people who are complaining about the price.

If you want one in spite of the fact that you don't actually need it, then you shouldn't be complaining about the price.

I don't fall into the category of a Pro, but I will likely buy one just because I love having really cool computers, even if I can't take advantage of their power except on very rare occasions.

And no, if you are not using it as part of a business then it is not tax deducible.
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And for those folks who really are that torqued over the nMP pricing and don't want an iMac, there will be thousands of used 3,1, 4,1 and 5,1 Mac Pros going on sale in the next few months. I will be selling my loaded 3,1 and maybe my Apple Cinema Display soon to subsidize a nMP.
 
DesterWallaboo said:
... motion-graphic artists, 3D animators, CAD designers, and some specialty math/science fields will definitely benefit in a big way from this system.
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Yeah. On a personal note I'm about to land a pretty good gig animating a how-to video for the assembly process of a complex device that's being modeled in SolidWorks. I could swing it with my current rig but I'm really looking forward to getting the nMP in time to chew through that project. Fortunately the delivery deadline for the piece is way down the road so there's time to get the computer in hand.
 
relbbircs said:
256 Gigs of SSD RAM on both of the stock configurations. That's a pro machine? :confused:
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You're not going to be putting your projects on your boot drive. I don't know any professionals that put their projects on their main drive. 256GB is purely for OS and apps. For many people this is sufficient.
 
Spinland said:
Ugh. You have a good point. I'll have to check with my accountant.
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Isn't the deduction based on when the computer is put into service? I'm wondering how I deduct it if I got one of Apple's no interest payment plans. I suppose I can only deduct the payments I make in that tax year...
 
beaker7 said:
Our new workstations are faster.
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I suspect anyone who put their mind to it could build a faster workstation. I don't think you could do it for less money. I am a big fan of the new design, particularly for its market segment, but calling it the fastest computer ever was silly.
 
DesterWallaboo said:
You're not going to be putting your projects on your boot drive. I don't know any professionals that put their projects on their main drive. 256GB is purely for OS and apps. For many people this is sufficient.
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Very true. Rendering is faster if you render to a different drive than the drive your editor is on.
 
DesterWallaboo said:
You're not going to be putting your projects on your boot drive. I don't know any professionals that put their projects on their main drive. 256GB is purely for OS and apps. For many people this is sufficient.
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I will go out on a limb and say it is enough for everyone within the parameters you described.
 
laurim said:
Isn't the deduction based on when the computer is put into service? I'm wondering how I deduct it if I got one of Apple's no interest payment plans. I suppose I can only deduct the payments I make in that tax year...
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I would really, seriously enlist the aid of a tax professional before taking any steps in that regard. I'm personally waiting to hear back from my accountant on how I need to handle this purchase.
 
laurim said:
Very true. Rendering is faster if you render to a different drive than the drive your editor is on.
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It depends on the setup/config of the system, rendering from and to the internal SSD of the nMP will be alot faster than rendering to and from a mechanical disk, even faster than most of the 4 HDD raid systems. You would need a pretty good Thunderbolt external HDD system to outperform the PCI SSD in the nMP. If your CPU isn't the bottleneck in the system that is.
 
ericinboston said:
This Pro is far too niche...price starts at $2999 which comes with 12GB ram and a tiny 256GB drive...not to mention the max memory is 64GB.

Basically Apple has nothing in between the $1200 iMac and this $3000 Pro...it's either pay out the wazzooooo for the Mac Pro (and in my opinion get a poorly-user-upgradeable system) which Apple thinks is the world's best Workstation (but it maxes out at 64GB and a single CPU) or get a mom & dad-class home desktop with a monitor us techies probably don't need/care for. Oh...but I can buy the Mini for $600 that has 0 upgradeability, a poor 5400-rpm drive (seriously, Apple?!), 4GB ram, and no keyboard/mouse. Beefing the Mini up to 8GB ram and a better i7 chip will run you up to $1000....before your keyboard/mouse which is another $100+.

Other than some diehard Mac addicts THAT ALSO HAVE a need for Xeon chips, this Pro is ridiculously expensive while offering very little upgradeability (other than at time of purchase and 300% Apple markups).

If Apple were to make a box/workstation that was priced between $900 and $2500 that were more like Wintel workstations/pro-sumer desktops, I (and others) would be buying them like hotcakes. I don't need a monitor so the iMac is just a huge waste of desk space (as well as 0 upgradeability).

<sigh>yet another decade without a reasonably-priced, appealing desktop/workstation from Apple.
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You can upgrade ram in the mini and add a second hdd/ssd and change the one that's in it.
 
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