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Agreed -- but, I'd say plenty of other folks see the back with it getting held up to take photos/videos all the time.
Another good point……you‘re on fire!

I actually also thought about the speaker and microphone openings on the bottom which are no longer symmetrical in number and the antenna lines are also all over the place.

I still don’t think they will go for that cut-out design on the front, it’s a mess.
 
So you would upgrade based solely on the removal of the notch? I’m all for design changes that add some benefit, but the notch doesn’t really affect anything, really. Having no notch and a pill or pill and hole punch might look a bit cooler I guess, but no real benefit. And I don’t think Apple would add an asymmetric pill/hole combo like that, but who knows these days.
There is also the ProMotion feature + faster CPU + better camera system....my iPhone X is acting slower these days and I think I can use the faster CPU...
 
I’d rather have the notch until Apple can hide everything behind the screen.
I don’t want cameras completely obscured under screen.

Why? I put cam covers (tape) over forward facing cameras on all my devices due to the Snowden disclosures (and Project Echelon before it).

Having cameras hidden would mean I would have a stupid black sticker on my screen all the time. At least with the notch, it’s basically hidden when applied (sticker is round/black).
 
I think it looks cool. It also makes the iPhone stand apart from the boring Android crowd. xo
 
It's the letter "i" in "iPhone".
Just need a vertical wallpaper background with the word "Phone" to complete it.
 
Apple just throwing stuff at the wall now and seeing how ridiculous they can be.
Maybe they do need their employees back on campus so they can get on the same page, iOS15 is a cluster and now this...
 
Exactly... This is worse than the notch. What is the screen above this pill useful for? I think this whole thing has to be some joke Apple is playing on leakers. No way would Apple make what looks like a Samsung copy bought off of Wish ?‍♂️
We've had the single notch for years now. Apple customers want a distinction from older phone models without sacrificing Face ID, AR and other front facing camera features. Apple is heading towards all screen but they have no need to rush to that goal. Only their competitors need to rush but that means they will make mistakes that Apple will fix. Just like every single year of iPhone release.
 
I'm more curious with what they do to the back of the phone. My iPhone 13 Pro is a great phone, but my least favorite feature is the excessive camera bump. It looks funny, like it was glued on -- and it makes the whole device look and feel top heavy. If Apple can really pull off a smooth looking camera array, flush with the back of the phone, I'd love it. I like the round vol. buttons too.

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What’s funny about that is that my 13 can’t even sit flat on my old wireless charger so I couldn’t even use it with my 13
 
This could be planted info - give this small part of the universe something to gripe about for the next 6 months. Or give us time to rationalize why pill is better than notch. Either way, it seems weird they would un-notch iPhone a cycle after adding notch to MBP. But I suppose anything is possible.

As many have stated, I think pill might prove more distracting than notch. And, this rumor holds, I would be reeeally surprised if pill weren’t centered.

Gonna be a loooong six months. 😂
 
How does the design affect the user experience? [I’m asking rhetorically] I don’t care if Apple adds a notch, hole punch or pill shape, does that personally take away from something that is so trivial and non-controversial? I think the less than one percenters’ on sites like this, just know how to drag something completely out of proportion. This thread is just a reminder of that.
 
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Asymmetric design on an Apple product………can’t see this happening.
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Remember that "hon" case? Apple design is still nice, but the little details have gone way long time ago.
 
What’s funny about that is that my 13 can’t even sit flat on my old wireless charger so I couldn’t even use it with my 13
Same here - so I bought MagSafe.
D’oh! Those evil geniuses keep siphoning my monies! ?

The camera bump is now laughably large on the 13 Pro line. I’d be ok with a thicker iPhone if it meant a flush back camera system. As a bonus, I’d assume a thicker iPhone could mean larger battery. Win-win.
 
what's the point of 2 large holes vs notch? the take almost as much of display space
The point is to show as many pixels as possible given the size of the device, without compromising on features like the front facing camera and face recognition.

A lot of apps might draw black pixels in that area of the screen (especially during full screen video playback for example).
 
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