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I believe the camera will have a ring like the iPhone 4, sit flush and that bigger module can easily house two cameras inside for the rumoured dual-lens thing. I refuse to believe it will be a 'Pro'-only feature.

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That looks ridiculous. The camera is more than just the lens bit that you see, you can't put them that close together.

Anyway, this mockup looks like an iPod Touch, which makes it seem kind of cheap. I reallywish they'd make something like the iPhone 5 again. At least make something black.
 
The form factor suggests that the huge top and bottom bezels will also be there.

Unfortunately that's how it is looking based on my perspective too. I'll be switching to the next nexus if the phone doesn't have enough appeal for me. The 6S was an indicator of this already, and if the 7 is as expected, I probably won't want to upgrade.

While I love iOS still, it seems to be getting sloppier as the last few iterations have come out, and as a power user, I have just always had a soft spot for the snappy transitions and animations that android allows. I jailbreak so it's not a big deal on iOS (I can speed up animations), but the limitation is real, and jailbreaks can get annoying when you have to restore and you lose everything.
 
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Yes, they always keep their designs fresh every year, without fail.

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They give it subtle tweaks from year to year. Their 7th iteration looks really nice and shows how far they've come since the 3rd and 4th gen models.
 

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Unfortunately that's how it is looking based on my perspective too. I'll be switching to the next nexus if the phone doesn't have enough appeal for me. The 6S was an indicator of this already, and if the 7 is as expected, I probably won't want to upgrade.
I already looked past the 6S Plus and stuck with my 6 Plus because they added so much weight to it and made the battery smaller in exchange for a useless feature (3D Touch).

meanwhile the Galaxy S7 Edge is an incredible phone, with the same display as a 6 plus but while being smaller and with a bigger battery. Apple is simply behind on design right now, and this leak doesn't suggest they have a real way forward.
 
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If they really are removing the headphone jack, I wonder if it is possible that they would add analog audio output to the Lightning port. If so that would only require a small passive adapter which could be acceptable.

Yes, t's possible as Lightning can dynamically allocate signals. But I don't see them doing that in order to maintain backward compatibility with accessories already designed to work with the 9 pin design, and it will conflict with new accessories that will use the expanded 17 pin plugs of Lightning 2. It also doesn't do them any favors as they will have to keep the same DAC, or upgrade it, and make another adapter that does nothing more than change from one hole to another (since they will offer DAC adapters as well for HQ audio). If I have to buy an adapter to use my existing headphones, I'd rather it actually do something to improve the audio.

I'm still not sure why people keep assuming that these DAC adapters will be huge. There's no reason they have to be to offer similar quality to the iPhone, and ultimately that's what most people are concerned about anyway.

They have a finalized design at the very least 6 months in advance, because it takes nearly that long to set up the manufacturing process for these phones. There are hundreds of millions of them.

Not necessarily. Not for something as minor as including a headphone jack/2nd speaker or not. The case itself simply requires new instructions for the milling machines, and they simply swap out the PCBs. All the components are otherwise the same. What changes are software to the machines assembling them. It's not like the old days when they would have to fabricate molds, and tool up for each minor design change.

Past reviews have stated that there were no stereo speakers available on the iPhone and they claimed that to be a bad thing. Some people use them, some don't. It isn't a feature I care about but some will. If they are removing the headphone jack then why not put them in there since they can. I also added it in to making the iPhone 7 sell because it is just another feature to differentiate it from the 6. They are removing the headphone jack regardless if they add stereo speakers or not but adding them to the phone seems like they are adding yet another feature to the "new" phone.

I don't really use the headphone jack or the speakers myself. I understand there are those who do. And I would suggest that there are likely a lot more people who use the headphone jack than use the built-in speaker.

If they are adding a second speaker, which is no small thing space-wise, then they are removing the headphone jack to do it, particularly if the quality is as good as what's already in the iPhone. I can't imagine why they would otherwise remove the headphone jack which is so widely used by so many -- the alternative paints the worst picture of Apple, and jeopardizes them against their competition who is then under no pressure to remove theirs. If Apple removes the headphone jack, it has to be in order to free up more internal space to improve and/or add new features, or increase the battery capacity. Doing so to add a second speaker, is sort of pointless given the minimal stereo separation between the rumored placement, and the quality of sound such small speakers are capable of producing -- and now the rumor is that the case is getting even slimmer which means even worse sounding speakers.

An acceptable answer here might be that whatever new technology they are adding means that they had to change the speaker design, making the existing speaker smaller, and therefore quieter. In which case, they may have to double up the speakers to maintain the performance they currently have, and eliminate the headphone jack. Which means most likely dual mono and not stereo (especially considering their placement) Now I would still contend that most customers would rather have a quieter speaker than lose their headphone jack, but that's a really subjective argument. I know I value the ability to hear my iPhone ring in certain situations, but then again, I don't use the headphone jack either.

One thing is sure, if they remove the headphone jack there had better be a good reason, and I just don't think stereo speakers is enough. And if the latter explanation comes to pass, having two speakers is not really going to be a selling point, either, that's just to keep the status quo -- in fact, I would expect them to state the reason the headphone jack was removed was to accommodate this new technology, because without explanation, the teardown will show something every different.
 
Not saying we want a pyramid shaped iPhone, I'm just saying we expect a new and fresh design.
We all know the "S" models look the same as the non "S" models; the "S" basically getting under the hood changes and improvements, with the same design.
But when you go from an iPhone 4 to a 5 to a 6 to a 7, there should be some new design ideas introduced.
Otherwise it would appear that Apple's management and/or designers are simply bored, uninspired or complacent.

They lost their DNA to greed. Their passion went and they know that whatever tweet they do, millions of funny people buy into it! It's as simple as that!
 
This is the image from the full mock-up:

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Honestly i like the current antenna lines better. I don't get the hate, in reality the phone 6/S is still very elegant/sexy IMO (The Plus is arguably a bit big and heavy though). The lines just don't look that good on photos.
 
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I think the rumor stated 5-6 hours of battery life is likely from apple's new earbuds
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Yep, that's the new expectation. Life ruiners, huh? :p

Talking about wireless in general. Either way, for my personal preferences still better. Hate having wires wrapped on me when running, work out, or simply just walk.
 
I got to admit that I'm not too impressed by that design. Given the low enthusiasm for the Iphone 6 and how well Samsung have done with their latest phone design, Apple really need to have a more drastic redesign.
 
One thing is sure, if they remove the headphone jack there had better be a good reason, and I just don't think stereo speakers is enough. And if the latter explanation comes to pass, having two speakers is not really going to be a selling point, either, that's just to keep the status quo -- in fact, I would expect them to state the reason the headphone jack was removed was to accommodate this new technology, because without explanation, the teardown will show something every different.

I've been pretty vocal about them not removing the headphone jack, but this morning I was thinking about it and I would accept the removal if it was for something really game-changing. There's nothing wrong with the jack itself. It's perfectly good technology and there's no good reason to remove it for the sake of removing it. But if they had something really amazing, like wireless charging where you could just be within a few feet of the charger, that might make it worth the tradeoff. I don't know that you would need to remove the headphone jack for that, but maybe there's just not enough room otherwise.

We'll see... as it is I'm torn between buying an SE, upgrading to a 6S, or waiting for the 7 to see what it actually will feature.
 
Apple needs to support aptX codec to make bluetooth audio a real replacement for analog. Watching movies with bluetooth headphones right now on an iPhone has tons of lag, and the quality isn't as high as it needs to be. This has been a standard feature of android phones for years now.
 
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So what if it's not a radical change? It seems silly to argue for a redesign just for the sake of redesign. My MBP looks substantially similar to its counterparts from almost 8 years ago. There was still good reason to buy it, and I'm still content with the design.

I haven't got many complaints about the iPhone design, and even if I did--the sucker's going in a case anyway.
 
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I already looked past the 6S Plus and stuck with my 6 Plus because they added so much weight to it and made the battery smaller in exchange for a useless feature (3D Touch).

meanwhile the Galaxy S7 Edge is an incredible phone, with the same display as a 6 plus but while being smaller and with a bigger battery. Apple is simply behind on design right now, and this leak doesn't suggest they have a real way forward.

yet, it last less time, has throttling, heat and the actual on device performance is still less than the Iphone, yup.... Fantastic.

The 6s has a smaller battery, but a more efficient CPU/GPU and comm chip which balances things out.
 
Is that all?This looks just like an iPod Touch released 4 years back... In fact I personally think it looks uglier than before because they still cant remove the antenna strips at the top and they stick out like a sore thumb.The line joining them like in ths 6S actually made it look better imo

If this is the iPhone 7,this doesnt even merit a "S" update.It looks like Samsung is the only one experimenting with new things
 
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Have you consulted a doctor about that? Because they clearly don't. The only thing that's changed is everything is their current slogan, because they did improve upon everything hardware-wise*.

*Miracles not included.

2GB of RAM
1080p or lower display resolution
16gb base configuration
LCD over OLED
Smallest Battery Capacity in the World vs others with same display size.
Smallest Camera Sensor in a flagship (1/3")
Least amount of CPU cores
And slew of other missing features that will never happen (micro SD, IR Blaster, Notification light, etc...)

Yes, you can argue some of the items I listed above, but my point is clearly valid! They are holding back. Just because I use their products does not mean I will agree that they are right on all counts like a sheep.
 
Always at this time of the year there is a new iPhone schematics leak and it always was correct. Also it's just normal that Windows 7 is still used in a production environment.
So face it, it's to 99% sure that's the iPhone 7 design. As someone else said, you can't improve the current design much more. It lays perfectly in your hand. Next on the list should be the reduction of the bezels.

I don't know where you guys are seeing Windows 7 in that pic; it's clearly Windows XP. Green task bar with long minimized icons with wordy description of app. That's XP not 7. 7 uses a very squared off blue task bar with squared minimized icons and no wordy description.
 
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If it's not flush with the case, it's not flush. That does contradict the early source, I don't understand the point of trying to cover one of these claims being incorrect.

Right: It *directly* contradicts the prior source, MacRumors' spin notwithstanding.
 
I don't know where you guys are seeing Windows 7 in that pic; it's clearly Windows XP. Green task bar with long minimized icons with wordy description of app. That's XP not 7. 7 uses a very squared off blue task bar with squared minimized icons and no wordy description.
(Wildly off topic, but taskbar button labels can be toggled on or off in Win7.)
 
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iPhone 7 mockup is so mehhhh! Seriously, 3yrs of the same design is not wowing anyone. Apple needs to step it up or lose what it has earned to Samsung's design that is getting very noticed. Do not become RIM Apple. Do not become the GM of Toyota.
 
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I hope this isn't iPhone 7 design but it probably is.

iPhone 6S^2, squared. except still rounded, and a derivative of the 6 design :(

Apple plays it way too safe all the time, (except in the case of their battle pro-encryption, which im partial to)

the blacker color is appreciated, but space grey on iPhone is an easy one to trump
 
2GB of RAM
1080p or lower display resolution
16gb base configuration
LCD over OLED
Smallest Battery Capacity in the World vs others with same display size.
Smallest Camera Sensor in a flagship (1/3")
Least amount of CPU cores
And slew of other missing features that will never happen (micro SD, IR Blaster, Notification light, etc...)

Yes, you can argue some of the items I listed above, but my point is clearly valid! They are holding back. Just because I use their products does not mean I will agree that they are right on all counts like a sheep.
iPhone has almost as much (if not more) available RAM as other Android phones, and A9 is the best mobile SoC currently. The other stuff you mentioned, I agree with completely. The display, and especially the camera need some noticeable improvements. And the design as well (at least the design of the front which looks seriously dated now).
 
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