Actually, it's not from a front-line rep which is what the other person would've called. This probably would've come from a higher level rep since this was as a response to feedback.
AirPlay Amazon Prime through ATV 3 works great...no need to upgrade!!
In contrast, regarding Prime, many times I'll get Amazon deliveries a day early, even on Sundays. And have found their video offerings outstanding.
Now I have a reason to go with the new Apple TV.
True but still works well.Except it pretty much defeats the purpose of having a streaming device.
It is pretty amazing some times. I ordered something yesterday morning and it must have come late last night because it was on my front porch when I got up.
Well, that didn't take long. Are they going to start selling the boxes again too? Maybe they realized from their little experiment that people aren't going to buy an inferior Fire TV box just because that's the only thing Amazon allows you to buy.
I am wondering how this is possible with Apples current model. They take 30% of the sale which takes profits to zero.
Wake me up when their full apps are on the apple tv.....
Plus I can sideload KODI to use my NAS.
There would be no difference between an app on the Apple TV and the existing app for iPhone/iPad that Amazon is already supporting in that there's no money exchanged. You sign up to Prime on Amazon's website and simply enter your credentials in the app to get to the content. There's no opportunity for Apple to require the 30% as there's no sales occurring, it's just the delivery method for video.I am wondering how this is possible with Apples current model. They take 30% of the sale which takes profits to zero.
Actually I'd say you misunderstood my post. My musings were on TVML vs iOS native code dev, which is obviously up to Amazon. Same with top shelf support. Siri may not have an open API yet but for a player as huge as Amazon they should get the special Netflix treatment.
The Government doesn't even require computers to be open, fyi. On top of which I don't necessarily /want/ these products to be open. That can create a terrible experience and more importantly, support won't be able to help.It's great that Apple is allowing Amazon to create an app for IOS Apple TV.
but it begs a huge question, if devices are similar to computers. Why does the US Gov't allow them to be locked down at all?
Applications would be awesome for my home:
Slingbox
Spotify
Pandora
Sirius XM
Vudu (they have two kinds of apps, one where you can do PPV/Purchasing, or the similar to iOS iPad App where you can play back movies/tv content you already own) *note apple prefers to price VOD rentals at higher than competing outlets, which they think makes the sell through pricing look more attractive)
Amazon would be terrific to get (even more so if not just prime video, any Amazon Video, which again often has better VOD pricing than iTunes)
So would the ability to add third party applications which are not on Apple's content approval list. i.e. Roku which allows third party content providers.
If these devices are like operating systems /computers why shouldn't users be able to have them be open? and users be able to install whatever software or applications and content they want?
of course apple wants to lock it down to whatever provides them income, but as endusers we ought to be screaming to open up these systems.
Who is with me? lets ask apple repeatedly to open up these devices. lets hack the heck out of them
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I didn't, but others on this thread got a yes if I read correctlySubmit your own request through feedback. When they tell you yes, let us know. I submitted my own and they had no idea what I was talking about.
All those apps can be developed for the new Apple TV as wellGotta say I've found the FireTV to be better than my AppleTV 3rd gen boxes, one of which appears to have died a mysterious death, and much smoother than my Roku stick. The UI isn't perfect but it's snappy and no UI in this space is even close to perfect anyways. It has apps for SlingTV, PlutoTV, Tivo and other stuff that Apple doesn't, some that Roku doesn't. Plus I can sideload KODI to use my NAS.
Not if, like the iOS versions, the AppleTV version doesn't allow you to actually purchase/rent titles and only view themI am wondering how this is possible with Apples current model. They take 30% of the sale which takes profits to zero.
I didn't, but others on this thread got a yes if I read correctly
Vudu as a video platform is available on a ton of devices - Roku, Xbox, TV's, TiVo, etc. So for a lot of people that haven't wanted to get locked into Apple products, they've gone with Vudu. With Apple it's their devices or nothing. With something like Vudu or even Amazon, you have a choice of the device.
Vudu can also be linked to your Ultraviolet library - so for some digital copies (the slips you get with Blurays to redeem a digital copy) when you redeem them they will go into a provider like Vudu. Some studios provide an iTunes code as well, however some don't - so the only way to get a copy is through UV and something like Vudu.
Pricing wise, I tend to find Vudu slightly cheaper overall - maybe by a dollar.
I too would love to see Vudu come to the new ATV. With that and Amazon it would make it THE box to have.
-Kevin
I guess I should have phrased my question better. What I was asking was why anyone who is using an Apple TV would want Vudu, since the iTunes store handles that service on the Apple TV.
Except it pretty much defeats the purpose of having a streaming device.
I dont understand your response? Amazon Prime not available on ATV 3 except by streaming through iPhone or iPad....but works great. What's not to like?... Or how does this defeat any purpose?
Yeah I suppose if there is no purchasing available that is one thing. I had heard mumbling of Apple's profit share model changing a bit awhile back. I was hoping that they would have made this change to open up the field a bit, but that would be wishful thinking on my part.There would be no difference between an app on the Apple TV and the existing app for iPhone/iPad that Amazon is already supporting in that there's no money exchanged. You sign up to Prime on Amazon's website and simply enter your credentials in the app to get to the content. There's no opportunity for Apple to require the 30% as there's no sales occurring, it's just the delivery method for video.
As others have mentioned, Amazon could have purchasing disabled. They could also just increase the pricing on AppleTV to cover the costs.I am wondering how this is possible with Apples current model. They take 30% of the sale which takes profits to zero.
I dont understand your response? Amazon Prime not available on ATV 3 except by streaming through iPhone or iPad....but works great. What's not to like?... Or how does this defeat any purpose?
Increasing prices just prices you out of the market. Purchasing on the web then accessing through the app is a better choice. It's just not optimal from a user experience standpoint. There is no percentage in it for apple to open it up for other TVOD platforms as opening up the pricing takes away from apples share in the market.As others have mentioned, Amazon could have purchasing disabled. They could also just increase the pricing on AppleTV to cover the costs.
1. Why should you have to occupy your iPad/iPhone while watching TV? Defeats the purpose of having the streaming device.