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With a cable i can at least charge and use phone at the same time. When you can charge and use it while holding in your hands and not poking at it on the desk then wireless will be truly wireless.
How would the inclusion of wireless charging nullify your ability to continue to charge and use the phone at the same time? It's not an either/or proposition. Every phone that has wireless charging capability also has wired charging. It's an option.


Plus the question of efficiency. If you are blasting out tons of power in all directions, enough to power multiple devices, the amount of money you'd waste on powering that device would go up dramatically.
My question would be how does the power emission affect other devices in the home that don't use the wireless charging.
 
That's what I see really. Never met someone in person who mentioned a bezel, most people don't even know the term.

I switched from an iPhone 6 to a 6S+ and the latter is too large for most of my pockets, but has a screen size that I love.

So the thought of a phone the size of a 6S but with a screen the size of the 6S+ is very appealing. I just want the biggest screen possible for the size of phone, which means the smallest bezels, and ideally none at all.

It's not about bezels; it's about having a small phone with a big screen, which most people would consider important.
 
It looks like I'll be skipping the 7. I've upgraded every year since the 4s came out, but this phone just isn't enticing me with current rumors. Of course I'll have to wait till we see the official announcement from Apple in September, but I'll likely wait for the 2017 phone
 
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Also, I kind of feel like they need to drop the numbers now. iPhone 8, with the A11 chip running iOS 10. Just do like you did with the iPhone SE and call it "iPhone" and "iPhone Plus" and identify it by year of release if your selling the old models at a cheaper price.
Them planning to redo the naming scheme to coincide with the 10 year anniversary of the first iPhone is the only way this makes sense. I bet it'll still be called the 7 this year, but if this rumor comes true there will be no 7S since it'll have a different name.
 
All these rumors....They make this year's iPhone to be less appealing to me even before its release.....
 
You should replace it with the SE.
It's a terrific iPhone, in the best design, with the latest internals.

It is a great design, yepp, but I really, really want a much bigger screen than what I currently have and an oled screen *drools*
 
Why did you have to go and do that? Do I really need to explain why "wireless charging" is anything but, and why its current implementation is an unimaginative gimmick for people who buy things based on bullet points?
Calm down.
It's not a gimmick. I have it on my S7edge and i use it all the time when i'm at the office. Instead of putting the phone down on the table, i put in on the dock and i have a charged battery all day.

I guess amoled screens are unimaginative gimmicks, too.:rolleyes:
 
I'm not sure I like the idea of removing the home button. In a pinch, it unfreezes the phone.

Well I think it would be replaced by another physical button on the side, that won't take up screen space. It will be a great improvement.

Actually, why not just make the power button double as a home button? It is already there!
 
Them planning to redo the naming scheme to coincide with the 10 year anniversary of the first iPhone is the only way this makes sense. I bet it'll still be called the 7 this year, but if this rumor comes true there will be no 7S since it'll have a different name.

iPhone Pro?
 
Samsung has had fast wireless charging for 2 years now. Now if Apple can make wireless charging that can charge devices within several feet I will be amazed, I highly doubt that will be the case though. It's going to be the same method of laying your phone down on some special charger that we currently have.

And thats exactly what they're working on. If placing your phone on something is "wireless" then effectively the Apple Watch also has wireless charging - because what you're describing is inductive charging that still requires a physical connection between two layers to work - and they've gone and pretended its wireless.

Laying your phone down on a pad is just as much a fail as needing a stylus to accurately interact with a touch screen that Steve described back in 2007.

Apple have been working with and bought up a company with true wireless charging that happens when you enter rooms with the conductor in. The distance is going to be a problem at first - but it largely doesn't matter what speed it charges at because the idea isn't so much that its recharging your phone but rather stopping it discharging through use. Id happily pay a few hundred quid to have one of the conductor sources in multiple rooms of the house, the car and at a work but it'll be interesting to see how Apple would manufacturer and charge for these devices - and more so how they'd bundle one powerful enough to work in a tiny phone box.
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So your saying when two displays are side by side consumers can't distinguish which one looks better?

No I think he said average consumers don't care - and he's right. Its not a feature that would cause the average consumer to want to buy.

They're going to have to massively improve the black level grading faults with OLED for me to want one too - I appreciate it can do "total black" by switching all the light off, what every OLED screen i've seen so far has failed to do (and the massive problem with LG's TV's) is there are many gradients from very black to quite black missing, and it all comes out as BLACK - like someones ramped the contrast up (and no this isn't a saturation/contrast moan, this is a problem on proper calibrated OLED screens at the moment too - Panasonic largely fixed it on its flagship OLED TV last year, but it was in the region of £8000)
 
I just want the biggest screen possible for the size of phone, which means the smallest bezels, and ideally none at all.
Where is the speaker hole for phone calls, or does this turn into a Blue Tooth Handset only kind of device?
Where is the facetime camera? Do we have camera tech yet that works from behind the screen without impacting the screen or camera?
How do you grip it without unintended touches registering? And even if the software has new kinds of touch rejection logic, do you want it spending CPU cycles and extra battery constantly processing and dismissing those irrelevant touches?
How would you put a case on it, if so inclined? Something that only squeezes the sides or maybe uses adhesive onto the back? And you wouldn't be able to have a protective front lip without impairing the ability to touch content at the edges.
Where is the easy-for-everyone-to-understand-and-find button that they can always rely on to escape out of an app?
How will you check the time and recent notifications? If it's just by touching the screen, how do you avoid wasting battery by powering up the screen from handling it all the other times?
 
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Calm down.
It's not a gimmick. I have it on my S7edge and i use it all the time when i'm at the office. Instead of putting the phone down on the table, i put in on the dock and i have a charged battery all day.

I guess amoled screens are unimaginative gimmicks, too.:rolleyes:

Revolutionary that. When i'm at the office. Instead of putting my iPhone down on the table, i put in on the dock and i have a charged battery all day.
 
And thats exactly what they're working on. If placing your phone on something is "wireless" then effectively the Apple Watch also has wireless charging - because what you're describing is inductive charging that still requires a physical connection between two layers to work - and they've gone and pretended its wireless.
Inductive charging does not require a physical connection between the charger and the device, this is why you can wireless charge phones with cases. You can hover your phone over a wireless charger and it will work, but it needs to be very close.

Revolutionary that. When i'm at the office. Instead of putting my iPhone down on the table, i put in on the dock and i have a charged battery all day.
The difference is you need to place it in the dock and make sure the lightning port plugs into the dock. With a wireless charging pad, you place your phone down on the pad and it starts charging. No need to make sure it's inserted perfectly, and you can grab it while running out the door without having to remove it from the dock.
 
Inductive charging does not require a physical connection between the charger and the device, this is why you can wireless charge phones with cases. You can hover your phone over a wireless charger and it will work, but it needs to be very close.

Semantics - its more or less has to be a surface touching something else - its basically not advantage to plugging a cable in, hence pointless.

What you want is to walk into a room and have the device charge up in your pocket - THAT is useful wireless charging and thats why they're working on.
 
Semantics - its more or less has to be a surface touching something else - its basically not advantage to plugging a cable in, hence pointless.

What you want is to walk into a room and have the device charge up in your pocket - THAT is useful wireless charging and thats why they're working on.
That would require a ton of wasted energy being sent out in all directions, likely even when there is nothing that needs to even be charged.

It's not semantics, the difference is you don't need to physically plug and unplug the charger. Just plop the phone down on your desk or bed stand and it charges, no need to think about if you should bother plugging it in if you may get up in a minute or two. I know when I get to work I put my phone on my desk, when I get home and go on my PC it's on my computer table. I do the same thing now, except it's charging while on the table.
 
Also, removing the home button would remove a lot of accessibility features as well.
I don't think I'd "let" my non-tech family members upgrade to new home-buttonless iPhones. That'd cause too many headaches for me helping them. That button is a security net even for people who don't need true accessibility features.
 
So why isn't anybody investing in solar charging phones? That's an innovative idea to a greener future. At night of course wireless charging would take over. Apple really is scared of doing things by itself since they could easily patent this.
 
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The difference is you need to place it in the dock and make sure the lightning port plugs into the dock. With a wireless charging pad, you place your phone down on the pad and it starts charging. No need to make sure it's inserted perfectly, and you can grab it while running out the door without having to remove it from the dock.

I can place it down within a split second, its really very easy - and I grab it out because i've put a dab of hot glue under the dock so I can pull up without the dock moving. Simple - hence there's no advantage to wireless charging for me what so ever.

And for the record if you want you can add it to the iPhone anyway very easily, but its useless so there's no point.
 
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