There are the few occasions where it does, i.e. gaming ...but day-to-day it rarely gets up there.
The point I'm trying to make is who really would notice a single digit percentage increase between broadwell and haswell.
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There are the few occasions where it does, i.e. gaming ...but day-to-day it rarely gets up there.
The point I'm trying to make is who really would notice a single digit percentage increase between broadwell and haswell.
Absolutely correct, come Skylake Apple will do it`s upmost to capitalise on performance, battery life, and new features. Apple has some serious competition coming up this year in the shape of Microsoft`s Windows 10 as this will undoubtedly impact Apple`s recent increased footprint in the PC sales space, let alone the smarter PC manufactures.
Remember many switched to Apple`s hardware & OS X, not for a love of Apple`s design & ecosystem, more due to Windows 8 being the tragedy it was, Windows 10 corrects much of the issues customers disliked. I strongly suspect Q4 2015 onwards Apple will be pushing hard to maintain momentum in PC sales, and be looking for good press throughout 2016 and what better than new product...
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Perhaps this is likely. Apple refused to wait and choose this as the better option. Not updating the 15" they may have seen as untenable.
It would only be outdated if Apple released a 15" broadwell rMBP today as well. But I guess hyperbole is cool too.
This reasoning doesn't make sense. Sounds like you're stretching to defend their decision. Why do such an incremental refresh at all in that case? What ground work was laid out by doing what they did, and how would this ground work have been altered if they waited a week or two for broadwell?
By your logic, if Apple never does a single update again to any of their laptops, they will never be outdated.
I thought some of you guys may find this chart interesting that I made using MacBook Pro 15" release dates. It plots the refresh cycle.
http://i.imgur.com/FaVm90G.png
This is from the first MacBook Pro 15" released in 2006 to the 15" Refresh last month. And as you can see the plot is pretty even spread. The interesting thing is, whenever there has been a refresh in February-May we've had an October refresh the same year. This has occurred every time. 2006, 2008, 2011 and 2013. These are the only years where Apple updated the notebooks twice in one year and always the second release is in October with the first release between Feb and May.
Using this data I am going to make a prediction that we will see an October rMBP 15" update. I will make a second and separate prediction that the October update will have Skylake. I'm 100% certain we'll see an October update I'm about 60% certain we'll see Skylake in that update.
http://i.imgur.com/FaVm90G.png
This is from the first MacBook Pro 15" released in 2006 to the 15" Refresh last month. And as you can see the plot is pretty even spread. The interesting thing is, whenever there has been a refresh in February-May we've had an October refresh the same year. This has occurred every time. 2006, 2008, 2011 and 2013. These are the only years where Apple updated the notebooks twice in one year and always the second release is in October with the first release between Feb and May.
Using this data I am going to make a prediction that we will see an October rMBP 15" update. I will make a second and separate prediction that the October update will have Skylake. I'm 100% certain we'll see an October update I'm about 60% certain we'll see Skylake in that update.
I thought some of you guys may find this chart interesting that I made using MacBook Pro 15" release dates. It plots the refresh cycle.
This is from the first MacBook Pro 15" released in 2006 to the 15" Refresh last month. And as you can see the plot is pretty even spread. The interesting thing is, whenever there has been a refresh in February-May we've had an October refresh the same year. This has occurred every time. 2006, 2008, 2011 and 2013. These are the only years where Apple updated the notebooks twice in one year and always the second release is in October with the first release between Feb and May.
Using this data I am going to make a prediction that we will see an October rMBP 15" update. I will make a second and separate prediction that the October update will have Skylake. I'm 100% certain we'll see an October update I'm about 60% certain we'll see Skylake in that update.
Can some one explain this theory of Skylake dropping in September? Intel hasn't made any money on Broadwell yet, why then, would they consider shipping Skylake even if it was ready? If anything, around October, we will more likely see a silent bump from Haswell to Broadwell IMO. Either way it's all speculation.
Because, Skylake is already launching in Quad Cores on the desktop. Socket 1151, the new socket that replaces Broadwell is about to release. Intel has also said that the delays with Broadwell will not affect Skylake.
The key thing to remember is the reason Broadwell was delayed is due to the difficulty in manufacturing it at the lower process node. Broadwell and Haswell have the same IPC (Instructions Per Clock) as they are the same architecture. The only changes are in the separate graphics die sitting next to the CPU and the die shrink from 22nm to 14nm.
Once they've worked out the issues with 14nm (which they now have) they can go straight in to Skylake production unhindered and keep their overall product schedule on check. They do not want to move everything they have scheduled back 12 months, they just want to skip over Broadwell and go straight in to Skylake at the normal time it was meant to be released, later this year.
So Apple can make a big deal over Skylake, WWDC is literally just days away. Why not reveal the recent MBP upgrade at the event? answer it`s insignificant compared to the bigger picture. Skylake will bring significant advancements to portables, Apple will look to captialse to maintain ground over the next Gen Windows PC`s, potentially launching a redesigned rMBP and larger variant of the rMB with TB-3 over USB C.
Personally I expect 2016 to be a good year for Mac`s as the competition is coming up, and Apple`s not noted for marking time
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So Apple can make a big deal over Skylake, WWDC is literally just days away. Why not reveal the recent MBP upgrade at the event? answer it`s insignificant compared to the bigger picture. Skylake will bring significant advancements to portables, Apple will look to captialse to maintain ground over the next Gen Windows PC`s, potentially launching a redesigned rMBP and larger variant of the rMB with TB-3 over USB C.
Personally I expect 2016 to be a good year for Mac`s as the competition is coming up, and Apple`s not noted for marking time
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These days Apple is moving away from mentioning hardware launches at WWDC, so highly unlikely they'll show anything hardware there. Though I wouldn't mind a sneak preview, something like the nMP
These days Apple is moving away from mentioning hardware launches at WWDC, so highly unlikely they'll show anything hardware there. Though I wouldn't mind a sneak preview, something like the nMP
The new Mac Pro was introduced at WWDC 2013.
Some kind of hardware can come out of WWDC 2015.
Hmm, I have a feeling they'll drop the Air from their notebook lineup and keep it like last time, MacBook and MacBook Pro
Intel's accounting doesn't work that way. Intel doesn't have an investment in Broadwell, on which any money could be made. Rather, Intel have an investment in the Haswell micro-architecture, on which they make money when they sell Haswell or Broadwell parts. Likewise, Intel have an investment in the 14nm process, on which they make money when they sell Broadwell or Skylake parts.
The idea that Intel have any sort of strong preference about whether they are selling Haswell vs. Broadwell or Broadwell vs. Skylake parts is nonsense. Intel make money on whatever CPUs they are selling.
I agree. This will be driven by Apple's risk-averse decision-making based on what they can get reliably in quantities counted in millions.
If intel can release Skylake chips for rMBPs in late 2015 / early 2016 and informed Apple, no rMBP upgrade until a Skylake version.
If intel doesn't release Skylake before early 2016, Apple will upgrade its current rMBP15 to Broadwell around november.
That was easy
If intel doesn't release Skylake before early 2016, Apple will upgrade its current rMBP15 to Broadwell around november.
That was easy
I thought the same initially, now I believe Apple will maintain the Air line until the Macbook`s pricing equalises. The Air is tremendously popular and for many the price point is in the right "space" especially for students etc...
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I really think the rush to put out a 2015 machine was to get force touch into the 15" model. If rumors are to be believed, apple is betting big on it as a new form of input and will be including it in all iOS devices by years end.
So, get it into every product possible now, get developer support and adopt it as a new standard for iOS 9 and new OSX. Then do a major upgrade to skylake in early 2016. Seems to be the path so far.
So, get it into every product possible now, get developer support and adopt it as a new standard for iOS 9 and new OSX. Then do a major upgrade to skylake in early 2016. Seems to be the path so far.
A couple of geniuses on this forum were arguing that the reason why Apple rushed to release the 15" with haswell was because even with Intel's announcement for broadwell, it would take months for it to be actually available. I guess now they must be scratching their heads?
You got valid point there Retina MacBook is still seriously thin on the ground, I bought my own from an authorised reseller here in Asia. I pity the floor staff in the Apple Stores, they are simply lost, with no clues from the management, other than asking the customer to order online.
In the last 5-6 weeks I have been through eight countries across Europe, Scandinavia and Asia and all the Apple stores have the same "blank" response; Absolutely not the way to launch a product
Apple should have a chat with Microsoft as they appear to have launched the Surface 3 seamlessly across multiple geographic regions, with actual retail stock... Q-6