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That's were emulation comes in, at least until apps can be recompiled. Apple already went through this during the Power PC to Intel transition, when Rosetta was introduced allowing you to run PPC programs on Intel hardware. And Rosetta worked incredibly well.
When you start talking about emulation you loose the benefits of a fast chip
 
Considering that Apple also sells the iPad, with 2gb of ram and A10 processor, I guess there is a limit to how ambitious they can get with iOS. Any new feature still has to run reasonably well on older hardware, so if you want to make better use of all that horsepower, it really boils down to productivity apps and multitasking.
Why not differentiate a (true) iPad Pro with workstation class connectivity options and extra functionality over the consumer iPads ?
In a postPC-world, one would expect PC-level functionality and similar options or either loss of market- and mind share.
 
Why not differentiate a (true) iPad Pro with workstation class connectivity options and extra functionality over the consumer iPads ?
In a postPC-world, one would expect PC-level functionality and similar options or either loss of market- and mind share.

I think it comes down to differing expectations of what a post-PC device ought to do. Many people seem to have this notion that the iPad ought to essentially run macos in a tablet form factor.

Personally, I don’t think the iPad is destined to become another PC. Apple’s product strategy is based not on coming up with replacements for existing products, but on using personal technology to come up with alternatives to more powerful computers.

By removing barriers between the user and technology, Apple hopes to make the computing experience more intimate, personal and intuitive. Stuff like overlapping windows go against that.

That’s why I don’t think Apple will evolve the iPad in the direction you envision.
 
When you start talking about emulation you loose the benefits of a fast chip
Benefits for apple is that developers will compile existing apps, develop new apps for the new architecture, and that apple has controll of their own cheaper chips instead of waiting for intel.
 
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I think it comes down to differing expectations of what a post-PC device ought to do. Many people seem to have this notion that the iPad ought to essentially run macos in a tablet form factor.

Personally, I don’t think the iPad is destined to become another PC. Apple’s product strategy is based not on coming up with replacements for existing products, but on using personal technology to come up with alternatives to more powerful computers.

By removing barriers between the user and technology, Apple hopes to make the computing experience more intimate, personal and intuitive. Stuff like overlapping windows go against that.

That’s why I don’t think Apple will evolve the iPad in the direction you envision.

Which is a shame because just look at the Surface it is a device where you only need that ONE device rather than having a laptop AND a tablet. Apple would completely disrupt the entire 2 in 1 hybrid line up if they were to come out with their own, MacOS on a Surface style device YES PLEASE :D

I love my iMac and i love MacOS but i can't help feel that Microsoft are doing more in the personal computer space at the moment, it feels like Apple are leaving the Mac at the back while they focus on IOS devices :(
 
Benefits for apple is that developers will compile existing apps, develop new apps for the new architecture, and that apple has controll of their own cheaper chips instead of waiting for intel.
Who said Apple's chips are cheaper?
 
Apple would completely disrupt the entire 2 in 1 hybrid line up if they were to come out with their own, MacOS on a Surface style device YES PLEASE :D

macOS on a tablet would be a terrible idea, because macOS has absolutely zero notion of touch. It would be worse than Windows 7 was at that skill.
 
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I hope this won't happen any time soon as HW without SW is kind of useless. I really don't want anything like iOS on Mac

Bad news fella, it’s called Marzipan and it’s a comin’.
 
Who said Apple's chips are cheaper?

For apple they are cheaper.
If there is a supplier with its own patents, R&D, and has to pay its own staff, and get some money out of it, and also has its own fabs, it is just plain logic that intel chips will be more expensive for apple than their own designed SoC’s.
 
I think we'll see some improvements in iOS 13 in this regard that were pushed out to focus on performance. Although I think Apple looks to the iPad when it comes to real multitasking gains and efficiencies. App tabs are rumored to be coming to the iPad in iOS 13, which feels like a very good way to implement. Split screen on a phone would only be useful for a very niche group of people, in my opinion.

The problem with true multi-tasking is resource management. It’s not that much of a concern when you have a very large battery or constant power source but, on a phone, it does matter. I understand android offers this (at least in some implementation) but it just doesn’t seem practical to me for my phone usage.

When it comes to my phone, which is my communication tool first, I want to use it, at will, any time, everyday, all day without worrying about killing/monitoring background apps. In fact, I am not sure how I would benefit from true multitasking in my phone v. the current implementation (which I feel covers most scenarios efficiently and effectively).

That said, I see a benefit from bringing some of the iPad features over (horizontal split screen and PIP).

True iPad multitasking would be welcome though.
 
macOS on a tablet would be a terrible idea, because macOS has absolutely zero notion of touch. It would be worse than Windows 7 was at that skill.

They could work it and put some serious R&D into it, this is Apple we are talking about. Build it from the ground up, if Microsoft can do it then I’m sure Apple can.
 
I think it comes down to differing expectations of what a post-PC device ought to do. Many people seem to have this notion that the iPad ought to essentially run macos in a tablet form factor.
Personally, I don’t think the iPad is destined to become another PC. Apple’s product strategy is based not on coming up with replacements for existing products, but on using personal technology to come up with alternatives to more powerful computers.

By removing barriers between the user and technology, Apple hopes to make the computing experience more intimate, personal and intuitive. Stuff like overlapping windows go against that.

That’s why I don’t think Apple will evolve the iPad in the direction you envision.
Agree. But a consequence of coëxisting, distinct product lines is that the postPC paradigm is a void
(and the pro moniker in iPad Pro and insult to real Pro’s)
 
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Come on. You know iOS already has multitasking. What's needed for users is a suitable interface, which doesn't exist on a phone-sized display. What do you propose?

Looking forward to the redesigned Mac Pro.

Yes, I mean exactly what you think I mean. Why else would it take them so many years? 2019 is 2006 again.

I’ll tell you the true test... when they can run XCode as well as a top end Mac/iMac Pro... building my large projects brings these machines to their knees
 
Now if they make fully loaded Final Cut X, Logic Pro, ... for iPad and, allow to connect external storage, then we can dance. For what we have now in software for iOS, the chips are quite a overkill
You should look into Affinity Photo and Designer for the iPad. These apps easily rival their Mac desktop versions, and are even better in some ways because of their Apple Pencil support.
 
Point is, when displaying a blank screen, all those components are in the lowest power state.
All of those many more OLED pixels are in a low power state, yes indeed. Whereas the background lighting of an LED display is always on, even if only one pixel isn’t black. I fully understand that and it’s not important to the energy consumption of the whole phone. Every additional pixel even the black ones keep the GPU busy and the RAM filled. Higher resolution comes at a cost.
 
macOS on a tablet would be a terrible idea, because macOS has absolutely zero notion of touch. It would be worse than Windows 7 was at that skill.
In the current incarnation of MacOS you are correct. That is an unfortunate drawback with Apple's choice not to offer touch screen for the Mac line, particularly with the laptops.
 
The problem with true multi-tasking is resource management. It’s not that much of a concern when you have a very large battery or constant power source but, on a phone, it does matter. I understand android offers this (at least in some implementation) but it just doesn’t seem practical to me for my phone usage.

When it comes to my phone, which is my communication tool first, I want to use it, at will, any time, everyday, all day without worrying about killing/monitoring background apps. In fact, I am not sure how I would benefit from true multitasking in my phone v. the current implementation (which I feel covers most scenarios efficiently and effectively).

That said, I see a benefit from bringing some of the iPad features over (horizontal split screen and PIP).

True iPad multitasking would be welcome though.

Absolutely, the extra resources needed for a feature you’ll use once in a while or by a small amount of people, just doesn’t feel like a needed feature. I’m certainly open to it though, but I am just hoping for a solid implementation.
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You didn’t get the joke.

Definitely did. It’s just kind of dumb.
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1. Intel didn't have Apple as a customer back then, TSMC already does.
2. Apple was at that time a customer at one of Intels biggest competitor. Them switching was a huge thing.
3. Home computers were the biggest electronic thing back then, they definitely aren't anymore, and sales are going down.

Don't expect it.

I’d expect a bump to the stock. Maybe not sustained, but a bump at the announcement. It would certainly have a negative affect on Intel’s as well. I get your point, definitely a different time, but Apple’s reach impacts the market easily.
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There might be times where you'd want it too.
There needs to be a youtube player you can scroll over the screen in the top corners. Or if you are watching a game and browsing the internet or watching a stock closely and looking things up online. Thats how id want split screen done anyhow.
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At this point its the software that's making these not live up to their processors. They are much more capable and we are stuck with basic iOS software stuck in 2010...
They need a huge overhaul

Yea I definitely wouldn’t mind it as long as it’s not a resource hog and the UI implementation isn’t crap. What I’ve seen hasn’t been very impressive so far.
 
That makes no sense. On OLED black means pixels are totally off.

So theyre saying an OLED basically in standby takes 150mW more power than LCD driving all pixels turned on? That sounds very odd.

Im surprised the iphone screen takes almost 150mW more power at 200cd/m² than the Galaxy S9+ despite both built by Samsung.
No both screens are completely black, ala off. In that state the OLED screen uses more power due to the underlying chips controlling the panel that have to still be powered. That sucks for standby time.
 
Their continued progress with these chips might be the most impressive thing Apple has done post-Jobs.

It is absolutely incredible, blowing away all competition like this.

But if thw A12 chip doesn’t come in Bonde Blue, no one will care.
 
The thing I was most surprised by in this awesome review was that the GPU can draw nearly 8 watts of power by itself!! (And crash due to the battery being unable to sustain that incredible number). That seems really crazy for a mobile device.
 
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