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AnandTech Calls A12 Bionic in iPhone XS 'Just Margins Off' Best Desktop CPUs in New Review
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Fabs aren’t cheap, and at the high end yields are low. You pay for wafer starts, not for useable die.
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And of course sometimes it’s negative. For years at amd we lost money.
Outlier whiners. This phone is blazing fast. No sign of lagging at all.
They had tried Geekbench (fp and int) on their forums, but they dont like it because SPEC is a more complete suite.
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There’s no such thing as panel power consumption, all AnandTech can measure is the whole device power consumption. And why would the number of pixels not be a a contributing factor?
The Liquid Retina display in the iPhone XR also has a Tap to Wake function, so no difference there.
% of XS & XS Max owners who are using an app that showcases OR leverages the benefit of 4 GB of DRAM = ~0% !
My point, that AAPL hardware is far ahead of the iOS App Store !
The people who run the iOS App Stores around the world are incompetent !
AAPL announced two 4 GB DRAM iPhones, yet to date, AAPL has NOT promoted a single app that takes advantage of the extra DRAM ... Go Figure !
AAPL, & more specifically Tim Cook, has succeeded simply because of one simple fact, a lack of true competition !
Otherwise, others would have eaten AAPL's lunch !
AAPL's hardware team have done their job, third-party App Devs have done their job, but the iOS App Store remains catastrophically broken !
AAPL needs to create a new, 2nd version, for Adults, & those with real knowledge of AAPL products.
My point, that AAPL hardware is far ahead of the iOS App Store !
The people who run the iOS App Stores around the world are incompetent !
AAPL announced two 4 GB DRAM iPhones, yet to date, AAPL has NOT promoted a single app that takes advantage of the extra DRAM ... Go Figure !
AAPL, & more specifically Tim Cook, has succeeded simply because of one simple fact, a lack of true competition !
Otherwise, others would have eaten AAPL's lunch !
AAPL's hardware team have done their job, third-party App Devs have done their job, but the iOS App Store remains catastrophically broken !
AAPL needs to create a new, 2nd version, for Adults, & those with real knowledge of AAPL products.
Because if you write an app you want to sell it to as many people as possible; you target the low-end not the high-end
Because if pixels mattered, we would see the Max consume more power than the XS. The Max has 20% more pixels than the XS. Instead, Anandtech reports:
"The iPhone X, XS and XS Max all fluctuate around 480-500 mW when on a black screen, which is around 150mW more than the iPhone 8 LCD models."
Anandtech is making a comparison with the iPhone 8, which does not have Tap to Wake.
You can't do ******** because ios12 is a bottle neck.
Apple's problem right now with mobile devices is not hardware but software.
1. Intel didn't have Apple as a customer back then, TSMC already does.
2. Apple was at that time a customer at one of Intels biggest competitor. Them switching was a huge thing.
3. Home computers were the biggest electronic thing back then, they definitely aren't anymore, and sales are going down.
Don't expect it.
Weird gibberish aside, there are plenty of photo and video editing apps which are power hungry and embarrassingly parallel that can make use of the raw CPU power available here.
Good software scales.
Which it does. Nobody said it’s 20% more, but it’s more. The Plus/Max models always had bigger batteries to accommodate for a larger screen.
Different technology more important for energy consumption than same technology in different sizes. Who would have thought?
And it doesn’t have an A12 on a 7nm process either. You buy a package and all of its parts contribute to battery life.
Anandtech says otherwise: 480-500 mW for X, XS, and Max. What evidence do you have?
Batteries aren't relevant in this conversation about power efficiency.
iPhone 8 doesn't have 4GB of RAM either.
Point is, when displaying a blank screen, all those components are in the lowest power state.
C’mon - who now can doubt that a MacBook / MBA is now possible.
If the A12 ‘tick’ is this good, the A13 is going to be where the 7nm ‘tock’ really starts to fly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see this by fall 2019 and certainly by March 2020.
Getting macOS working fully on iOS technologies and marzipan apps properly working the main challenges now.
Why is this cool? Being easily able to access the best of iPad software as well as the best of class traditional Mac apps is going to be awesome.
Having the advances of iOS come to the Mac is going to be great too.
And having a Mac that resembles the battery life of the iPad Pro is going to be pretty amazing.
If the A12 ‘tick’ is this good, the A13 is going to be where the 7nm ‘tock’ really starts to fly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see this by fall 2019 and certainly by March 2020.
Getting macOS working fully on iOS technologies and marzipan apps properly working the main challenges now.
Why is this cool? Being easily able to access the best of iPad software as well as the best of class traditional Mac apps is going to be awesome.
Having the advances of iOS come to the Mac is going to be great too.
And having a Mac that resembles the battery life of the iPad Pro is going to be pretty amazing.
Um... no. My Max is the fastest feeling iPhone I have ever had had, period. No lag for me. I love this beast of a phone.
Not sure exactly what you mean by this - a hackintosh is basically non-Apple hardware running MacOS. I guess the tablet equivalent concept would be to install iOS on a non-Apple tablet. Constructing a functioning hackintosh requires matching Apple Mac hardware closely enough to run MacOS on it. That is no simple task even with Intel based CPUs. To install iOS on a non-Apple tablet would require at minimum that the tablet be ARM processor based. If by some miracle you could get iOS to install on such a tablet, it would still accomplish nothing toward comparing iOS on ARM with iOS on an Intel platform. You would only be comparing different ARM processors running the same OS. This is the issue which is rather muddied when saying that "A12 outperforms a Skylake CPU". Perhaps that is true using certain benchmark measurements, but it doesn't reveal much about how iOS on the A12 compares with Windows on Skylake (or any other Intel platform). If iOS could be installed on Intel hardware, and Windows on Apple ARM hardware, there would be more ground for comparisons in terms of the user experience. The primary motivation for building a hackintosh is to get MacOS to run on cheaper non-Apple hardware, and that's only possible since Macs and PCs both run on the Intel platform. I don't see that happening anytime soon with tablets. A more reasonable comparison, and one which is already done, is to compare iPhones with Android phones, as they both are ARM based systems.
Owner who? Do you own one? I have already owned three (two Xs and one xs max) over the past two weeks.
Please stop spreading rumors if you haven’t tried it yourself
Sadly, that indeed remains a dream. The lack of more sophisticated apps, the need of a richer environment (or a convert) needed to actually use all that power: a tablet specific OS, windowed multi-tasking, more precise editing, a richer UI, connectivity to more screens.
There is just a lack of vision for a wider horizon
There hardly is - with the common lack of PiP, windowed multitasking, homescreen widgets, faster charging, true landscape functionality, better homescreen and storage management.
Camera and some faster app opening aside
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I am talking about potential, if apple would make a series A chip without the power and space limitations of an iPhone it iPad, it would overtake that chip.
Considering that Apple also sells the iPad, with 2gb of ram and A10 processor, I guess there is a limit to how ambitious they can get with iOS. Any new feature still has to run reasonably well on older hardware, so if you want to make better use of all that horsepower, it really boils down to productivity apps and multitasking.
Because the "best of class traditional Mac apps" are programed to run on Intel hardware; they will not run on an Apple A12 chip
That's were emulation comes in, at least until apps can be recompiled. Apple already went through this during the Power PC to Intel transition, when Rosetta was introduced allowing you to run PPC programs on Intel hardware. And Rosetta worked incredibly well.