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I wouldn't be surprised if they even got a cheque from Apple for this...
Apple won't even talk to us and prefers not to acknowledge our existence...they sure aren't writing us checks.

How low can this place go only owners / editors know... But quite frankly I don't think it can go much lower than where it is at the moment...

Filth!
If that's how you feel, I'm not sure why you're still here.

We published what we thought was a reasonable and objective analysis of Flash performance on the Droid 2 and other handsets. (By the way, they subsequently updated their report with some videos of their experiences.)

It's tangentially related to Apple and was clearly of interest to our readers. But we're not going to post every single Flash article and video that's out there.

You mention several times that you suspect it was purposely posted on a Friday afternoon to gain maximum attention over the weekend. That's completely false. It was posted after our attention was drawn to it and the timing had nothing to do with other considerations. In an ideal world, it wouldn't have sat at the top of the front page until Monday morning, but it was a slow weekend for news and I was working while on vacation all of last week and the beginning of this week, so nothing got posted.
 
Apple won't even talk to us and prefers not to acknowledge our existence...they sure aren't writing us checks.

If that's how you feel, I'm not sure why you're still here.

We published what we thought was a reasonable and objective analysis of Flash performance on the Droid 2 and other handsets. (By the way, they subsequently updated their report with some videos of their experiences.)

It's tangentially related to Apple and was clearly of interest to our readers. But we're not going to post every single Flash article and video that's out there.

You mention several times that you suspect it was purposely posted on a Friday afternoon to gain maximum attention over the weekend. That's completely false. It was posted after our attention was drawn to it and the timing had nothing to do with other considerations. In an ideal world, it wouldn't have sat at the top of the front page until Monday morning, but it was a slow weekend for news and I was working while on vacation all of last week and the beginning of this week, so nothing got posted.

Hi and thanks for your reply!

I accept that last Friday posting could be mere coincidence...

I also accept that it is highly likely that you never received any cheque from Apple... It was more of "symbolic" statement than anything else really...

However, I do not and will never accept that only and exclusively negative posts in regards to Flash are of interest to your readers...

I am sure you are aware of the fact that not all Mac users do follow SJ blindly and that in fact fair few us would rather have objective and real picture of what exactly is going on...

I mean Safari 5 team clearly worked with Flash team hence no crashes whatsoever... Flash - as per number of articles and videos all over the net is running rather great on competitors devices and it will only get better...

Yet - what about us?

Are we to read anti-flash propaganda and stare at blue lego boxes forever while rest of the world laugh at us!?!?!

In my humble opinion you - as one of the main sites - should NOT be taking any sides and report as objectively as possible in regards to any issue...

That is all really...

For our own good - get the truth out and start asking important questions :)
 
start asking important questions :)

Please heed your own advice there. I cannot think of any reason why the questions in this thread would be labeled "important." I believe others have expressed that opinion too.

Go start a blog, enjoy the 30 hits per month from googlebot, and be done with it already.
 
Replies such as this means nothing at all since they don't address a single question / point I have made here... Next please!

In fact - when I read most (if not all) of the replies made here not a single one of you argued with my main point that this site has become extremely biased and that it appears to serve as propaganda machine...

So, after all, it appears that we do agree on at least something :)

Also, not a single person even attempted to answer one of many questions asked...

Why is that!? :confused:

I am here and listening yet silence is so deafening...

We don't have to address your issues. Even though, my post was related to something you have posted. I did not post something random such as "i like cars." That would have been off topic and not addressing your points.

We our entitled to our own opinion and if you are unhappy with people posting their own opinions in your thread and not responding to every little thing you post then i suggest you not make your own threads.

To be honest. I didn't address most of your points because i find them extremely stupid. I still respect other peoples thoughts but I'm just being straight up with you.

Edit: OP, why are you so upset about the Flash thing. I'm am not being a jerk but i am truly wondering. Are you just mad because you think macrumors is against flash?
 
Replies such as this means nothing at all since they don't address a single question / point I have made here... Next please!

In fact - when I read most (if not all) of the replies made here not a single one of you argued with my main point that this site has become extremely biased and that it appears to serve as propaganda machine...

So, after all, it appears that we do agree on at least something :)

Also, not a single person even attempted to answer one of many questions asked...

Why is that!? :confused:

I am here and listening yet silence is so deafening...
In most cases like this I've seen it's because they don't like your points, but can't counter them, and so they try to divert the discussion.
 
Thanks for the cool reply!

I have been submitting news directly to MR - including some of the links posted in this very thread - yet not a single one made page 2 yet alone page 1 headlines!

One of the posters here said you can indeed contribute to MR (and therefore affect content of it) and now it seams that no-one can :)

Nephilim, I'm glad you liked my post, but let me clarify so there's no confusion. I think your expectations for MR to be fair and unbiased are unrealistic and misplaced. As many have pointed out MR does not claim this goal or exist for this purpose.

A forum is a place for discussion and user opinion. MR is merely a conduit for Apple related debates and analysis. MR strives to be unbiased by not endorsing either side of the argument, but merely saying "Look at this, here's an interesting Mac related topic. Now, discuss amongst yourselves..."

Please read this part of my previous post again:

Stop thinking of MR as the source of analysis and opinion, and start thinking of it as the vehicle through which others have the opportunity to share their analysis and opinion. Being a productive and contributing member of this community is how you can accomplish your goal of making sure both sides of the story are told. Just make sure to do it in the appropriate section of the forum so it can be easily found by those who could benefit.

Being a contributor and productive member is not about getting MR to publish your articles, but being vocal about your opinions/experiences in the forums and sharing resources with others. What I'm encouraging you to do is continue being active in those threads where you have an opinion and some evidence to provide.

If you actually look at it in a different way, MR is providing you a platform to share information that you think is imporant. If Flash is your issue of choice, then keep letting people know in anti-flash threads that you have had positive experiences with it. You might be the poster that helps someone, as you put have put it, not fall for the "propaganda".

Don't complain about the system, be a positive influence from the inside out. :)
 
Ok, so why not publish articles with counter arguments then!?!?!

What other counter arguments would be worthy enough to publish?

"Leaked Case Design Suggests iPod Nano May Not Gain Smaller Square Form Factor "
"Mac OS X 10.6.5 Build 10H531 Not Seeded to Developers"
"Apple's Updated iPod Nano to Keep Click Wheel?"

...? Arguments have counterarguments. Rumors have rumors that suggest otherwise. There are plenty of different kinds of rumors that get published on MR about the same issue.
 
...I think your expectations for MR to be fair and unbiased are unrealistic and misplaced. As many have pointed out MR does not claim this goal or exist for this purpose...

It certainly appears to be that case! :(

Not sure if WildCowboy, Arn, Eric and others would agree with such statement but I for sure do!

And this is rather serious problem imho... If MR is really here to be unfair, biased and to spread propaganda (without even receiving cheque for it!) then what exactly is the point of it all!?!?!

iMacmatician said:
In most cases like this I've seen it's because they don't like your points, but can't counter them, and so they try to divert the discussion.

I am fully aware of that :)

WildCowboy said:
We published what we thought was a reasonable and objective analysis of Flash performance on the Droid 2 and other handsets.

It's tangentially related to Apple and was clearly of interest to our readers. But we're not going to post every single Flash article and video that's out there.

Bit of addendum to my previous reply...

I have never suggested that you should post every single article on Flash - that would truly be insane and pointless...

However, my unanswered questions still remain - why post ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY negative ones!?!?!

If you think that previous article on Flash posted last Friday was of interest to your readers, then why not post this article later today: http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-los-angeles/adobe-proves-that-flash-can-work-on-mobile-devices

It deals with identical issue and it is written by the guy who in fact was 'anti-flash' for quite some time...

Why not publish it? Or is this somehow not that interesting all of a sudden...


While you are at it why not add this 'real life' video showing performance of Flash heavy websites on Android: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF43vkNnoiE


To make article even more interesting why not add this video to it as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adouTnXgelE

It demonstrates rather WTF thing - iPad running some intense Flash stuff rather well via home made port of Flash player! :eek:


And then you could wrap up the article with 'open letter' or at least few question marks directed at Steve Jobs / Apple... As in what EXACTLY did he mean by all that 'open war' statements against the Flash? Why exactly isn't he working with Adobe and letting us enjoy as much of www as possible? etc...


In short - why MR doesn't start to question some obvious things?


It is for our OWN benefit to have better, more capable devices in our hands since very soon indeed we will be finding ourselves in real world out there where people will be sending us web links to 'check some site' or 'video' and we will be replying with - "Sorry - I am on the iPhone / iPad and my daddy (read SJ) doesn't allow me to view it"... How frekn ridiculous that will be!!!

As journalist - you have moral / ethical obligation to inform your readers objectively and to start shooting some serious questions towards SJ /Apple...

Reality and the truth is catching up - don't get caught with your pants down :)
 
MR is a rumor/discussion site for users, not a platform to lobby and initiate change with Apple
It's mission and goal isn't to light torches, carry pitchforks and storm Steve's office

If you have an issue with Apple over Flash or anything else, then take it up with Apple yourself... don't try to leverage MR (not that you could anyway) to do your work for you

And if you want to evangelize for Flash yourself... start a blog

You seem pretty passionate and worked up over Flash, when many, if not most of us around here don't give a **** about it. If you can't live without Flash... get a 'Droid. I am happy with my iPad and my iPhone and have not once said "damn, I wish this had Flash".

It's not about propaganda... it is about indifference
 
Yet - what about us?

Are we to read anti-flash propaganda and stare at blue lego boxes forever while rest of the world laugh at us!?!?!

Who is this "us" you keep referring to? You complain repeatedly about iOS's lack of Flash like it really affects you personally...

...except you've stated publicly and even posted it in your sig that you do not own any iOS devices! Surely you can see how troll-like this is. Why do you care whether iOS has Flash or not?

You've voted with your wallet to let Apple know that a lack of Flash is unacceptable. However, millions of others have parted with enough cash to let Apple know that they don't give a hoot about Flash.

Back to the ignore list for you...
 
Yea, it's not exactly easy to find a fair and impartial tech site online. I tend to skip through most the news articles. I suggest you do the same.
 
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As journalist - you have moral / ethical obligation to inform your readers objectively and to start shooting some serious questions towards SJ /Apple...
...

Do you consider people who write for MacRumors to be journalists or bloggers? There are typically differences between the two occupations, just as there are many differences between a traditional news medium (such as a newspaper) and a blog.

Cyberjournalist.net has an article related to this subject, from which I'll quote:

A Bloggers' Code of Ethics
Some bloggers recently have been debating what, if any, ethics the Weblog community should follow. Since not all bloggers are journalists and the Weblog form is more casual, they argue they shouldn't be expected to follow the same ethics codes journalists are. But responsible bloggers should recognize that they are publishing words publicly, and therefore have certain ethical obligations to their readers, the people they write about, and society in general.

CyberJournalist.net has created a model Bloggers' Code of Ethics, by modifying the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics for the Weblog world. These are just guidelines -- in the end it is up to individual bloggers to choose their own best practices. CyberJournalist.net follows this code and urges other Weblogs to adopt this one or similar practices.

Integrity is the cornerstone of credibility. Bloggers who adopt this code of principles and these standards of practice not only practice ethical publishing, but convey to their readers that they can be trusted.

If you paint with a very broad brush, anyone who writes an article is automatically a journalist. Personally, I wouldn't automatically label them as such, since I would define a journalist as a writer that adheres to some form of standards commonly in use (see Principles of Journalism, for example). Blogging is relatively new, and as of now there are no universal standards in place. Given enough time, that will probably change...
 
I hate to rain on your parade, but news media is by its very nature fundamentally biased. This is a fact of life; some bias will always creep into an article, regardless of how one tries. Something is always left out, omitted, or ignored, usually for a large range of reasons and explanations stemming from personal experience and belief to convenience and practicality.

It's not practical to list all of the arguments and counterarguments, especially on a blogging site, and therefore you shouldn't expect opposing views. No news media really does this, as it takes up too much time and ends up leaving the viewer to question the truth themselves, which is counter-intuitive considering what the concept of "news" is based upon; it's not supposed to prompt further research and discovery into sometimes mundane and tangentially related topics.
 
Do you consider people who write for MacRumors to be journalists or bloggers? There are typically differences between the two occupations, just as there are many differences between a traditional news medium (such as a newspaper) and a blog. Blogging is relatively new, and as of now there are no universal standards in place. Given enough time, that will probably change...

First of all I have no idea how you concluded that MR is a 'blog' website? As far as I know MR hasn't posted a single 'blog' post ever nor there is a button / link anywhere on the site that reads 'blog'... (apart from the iPhone tab in the main menu which might be something like a blog - perhaps... sorry but i never look at it)

So what MR is it then? Lets find out...

If you load the main page and look at the top of your browser window or indeed if you Google 'mac rumors' - this is what you will find:

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=mac+rumors&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=e9b8dbb9ae9bb1b5

Title reads: Apple Mac Rumors and News You Care About

Description reads: Apple news and rumors with user contribution and commentary.

So this is clearly not a blog but news and rumors website...

Any radio station, newspaper, tv channel or indeed a website that reports and deals with news comes under umbrella of journalism...

And every journalist, as said in previous post, has moral and ethical obligation to report as objectively as possible - something MR is clearly not doing...

Hence this very thread and finger pointing at editorial...

I don't know, perhaps they should re-brand themselves into: Mac Rumors: Apple's propaganda machine that you shouldn't care about... Perhaps. At least that way we wouldn't need to waste our time on such threads since we would all know what it is all about...


darkplanets said:
I hate to rain on your parade, but news media is by its very nature fundamentally biased. This is a fact of life; some bias will always creep into an article, regardless of how one tries. Something is always left out, omitted, or ignored, usually for a large range of reasons and explanations stemming from personal experience and belief to convenience and practicality.

Sure thing... It is virtually impossible to be 100% unbiased - even when it comes down to independent media and specially when it comes down to large (news)corporations which indeed serve as propaganda engines for certain classes in our society...

Problem here is that MR, according to WildCowboy, is not receiving any cheques from Apple and as far as I know it isn't under any corporate ownership which means it is really 100% independent and as such, at least in theory, should be miles more unbiased and objective than it really is...

darkplanets said:
It's not practical to list all of the arguments and counterarguments, especially on a blogging site, and therefore you shouldn't expect opposing views. No news media really does this, as it takes up too much time and ends up leaving the viewer to question the truth themselves, which is counter-intuitive considering what the concept of "news" is based upon; it's not supposed to prompt further research and discovery into sometimes mundane and tangentially related topics.

Nobody here asked them to list all of the arguments and show all of the videos and cover every single thing that's out there... But, if they can perpetually post negative articles in regards to Flash why not look around internet and report objectively by providing some links / videos of positive reviews - trust me there are LOADS of them out there!

In regards to this what you wrote, quote: "...No news media really does this, as it takes up too much time and ends up leaving the viewer to question the truth themselves, which is counter-intuitive considering what the concept of "news" is based upon..."

LOL man! This is EXACTLY what I am talking about hence the title of this very thread! I know that we all live in the world where lies and propaganda is pushed down our throats - but that doesn't mean that every single channel of information (including MR) needs to follow the norm... Specially if they are suppose to be independent and are not receiving any direct or indirect payment from one or the other source 'from above' :)

Now, the funniest thing of all in regards to all this is that MR is being biased not for our own benefit but against our own interests!

Don't forget that we are talking about optional browser plug-in over here which right now, today, runs rather well on competitors devices!

Optional means - that all who don't like it or don't need it can keep on staring at blue lego boxes as much and as long as they wish while others can indeed install it and enjoy rest of the net we have been intentionally cut short of...

This is effectively being biased against the feature that would make Apple's own devices more attractive and capable and which would give, to fair few of us, full instead of crippled net!

How can you possibly be independent, not receive any cheques or payment and be biased against your own (and your readers) interests is beyond me... Perhaps if Arn comes to this thread he can through some light onto this rather peculiar mystery...

If this is really the place that servers us with 'news and rumors we care about' then it must start to be way more objective - and not only that - but it also must start to 'fight' for our own interests... (by obviously reporting certain facts and truths and asking some serious questions - never forget that pen is mightier than the sword!)

For the end, here is yet another 'reality check' link:

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/android-22-and-flash-101-review-froyo-gets-real-flashy-49305746/

Some quotes:

"The full Web version of BBC iPlayer has already been tweaked to work with Flash 10 on Android. Even though the pre-production phone we tested didn't have hardware acceleration working, video was still much smoother than when using Flash Lite and very watchable."

"Even sites that haven't been optimised for Flash 10, such as CNET UK, worked very well in our tests. The play and pause buttons worked reliably and the movie streamed quickly and reasonably smoothly while embedded on the page. Navigation elements on the page worked perfectly too."

"We also checked out some Flash games on Kongregate, which has whipped up a mobile site specifically for Flash 10, and we were impressed with how responsive they were."

"Ecodazoo, a Web site for kids that uses 3D animation made with Papervision3D, is heavy going even on a desktop. Flash 10 let us navigate around by touching the image and it rendered beautifully."
 
MR strives to be unbiased by not endorsing either side of the argument, but merely saying "Look at this, here's an interesting Mac related topic. Now, discuss amongst yourselves..."

Picking and choosing which "look at this" to post can show bias. There's no need to even be biased in the summaries for that to be transparent. The example the OP chose unfortunately turned this thread into YAFT (Yet Another Flash Thread) at the beginning and that was maybe a bit of a mistake on his part, but it doesn't change that what you said and what we read everyday are different. Same for Wildcowboy's assessement :

Please read this part of my previous post again:

We published what we thought was a reasonable and objective analysis of Flash performance on the Droid 2 and other handsets. (By the way, they subsequently updated their report with some videos of their experiences.)

Yeah, reasonable and objective and goes right in line with what Steve said. But let's ignore all the other reasonable and objective articles that go against the Steve letter, since that might upset our "user base". You can try to claim this was an unbiased pick, but clearly it's not. It represents one side of the argument at the detriment of the other.

Not to mention a lot of users had problems with this article. It was not reasonable or objective in any way, and the guy probably had problems with his unit, because most of his tests were working fine for other users. Not to mention LAPTOP Mag ? Really ? First I've heard of them.

Let's face it, this article was cherry picked for its strong inclination to what Steve said. That's all there is to it. MR can pretend to be unbiased, but they are obviously not, and it pays, maybe not by checks from Apple, but by page views/banner ads.

Being a contributor and productive member is not about getting MR to publish your articles, but being vocal about your opinions/experiences in the forums and sharing resources with others. What I'm encouraging you to do is continue being active in those threads where you have an opinion and some evidence to provide.

Yeah, and then you get the "Steve/iPhone defense squad" all over you, not reading any of your material that provides evidence that there is a problem and just dismiss you continually as a troll/shill etc.. And if you do happen to lose your cool and call one a fanboy once, the moderators come down on you with the ban hammer. Yet you keep reporting those "troll/shill" posts and nothing ever happens to those users.

The problem is that the mob mentality is quite strong here. People flock to the defense of Steve, no matter how wrong he may be. And you can't go against the mob.

MR is a rumor/discussion site for users, not a platform to lobby and initiate change with Apple
It's mission and goal isn't to light torches, carry pitchforks and storm Steve's office

And the contrary should be true also :

MR is a rumor/discussion site for users, not a platform to spread gospel and promote status quo at Apple
It's mission and goal isn't to light candles, carry Steve's letters and pray at the altar

And sometimes it feels just like that. Steve's words are accepted and seem to indicate the sort of "news" we'll be getting for the next few months.

There is no iPhone 4 antenna problem ? Let's not publish any of the articles that show we've been fed a big fat lie, let's publish all the propaganda from Apple.com about other phones "having the problem" though.

Flash performance sucks ? Let's not publish any of the articles that seem to indicate contrary reports, let's pick the one article that pushes Steve's point accross and starts with an apology to Steve in some sort of bid for objectivity, even though its results are dubious and the source is unknown.

Gizmodo reports on iPhone 4 ? WAY-TO-G... err.. uh Steve said he wants them arrested ? BAD GIZMODO!

Let's face it, either man up to the bias of this site or change your ways and do appropriate reporting. It wouldn't be so frustrating if "users" didn't keep arguing that this site isn't biased while ignoring all the contrary facts that get posted up on every other sites.
 
Oh they will take me seriously - don't worry :) - but yes, you are right, I would be pleasantly surprised to see official response to some (if not all) questions asked here...
Curious. Why do you think anybody needs to respond to your questions?

Your signature is NOT helping your cause at all.

To truly experience "fair and balanced" reporting the reader needs to be "fair and balanced".
Posted here for historical purposes:

-=XX=-Nephilim sig.jpg

Looks "fair and balanced" to me. :p :D

On a serious note, agree with Peace.

Gizmodo reports on iPhone 4 ? WAY-TO-G... err.. uh Steve said he wants them arrested ? BAD GIZMODO!
Nice cherry picking of what happened. :rolleyes:
 
Great post Knight and thanks for joining the thread!

...The example the OP chose unfortunately turned this thread into YAFT (Yet Another Flash Thread) at the beginning and that was maybe a bit of a mistake on his part...

I picked that article intentionally since it is almost the exact opposite of the article reported by MR :) (yet ofc equally trashy and biased!)

Perhaps it was a 'bad start' but sometimes you need 'cold shower' type of experience in order to wake up and get moving... so to speak...

Also, this thread is not YAFT (as you put it) - it is intentionally made in site and forum feedback section and it deals exclusively with fair, objective and unbiased journalism - or in other words - something that MR should be focusing at yet it clearly isn't doing...

Flash issue and most recent example of lies and propaganda published last Friday is just one of many examples - some of which you mentioned later in your post... Needless to say I agree with all of them and with the things you said :)

In any case, glad you got the point of it all and thanks again for your awesome post!


Edit:

By the way, here is another video worth watching - for what it is, I would argue it is very informative and objective!

http://www.komverse.com/2010/08/18/...-on-video-review-motorola-droid-2-on-verizon/

It is cool since guy is demonstrating some MONSTER flash sites - some are working fine yet some not that great which is perfectly understandable in case of pocket device and the 1st official release of this mobile web plug-in...

Enjoy :)
 
DylanLikesPorn chiming in....

I have noticed the front page stories (most really should belong on page 2 btw) have been a little biased in the way the headlines are written. Reading some of the early comments before they get deleted are some of the funniest. Most of it is complaining about the quality of the curation of news. I realize the editor needs to get paid, but use some discretion in picking worthy stories to go on the home page. Thanks.


ps. I have only skimmed through this thread, and I may be speaking out of my ass.
 
DylanLikesPorn chiming in....

I have noticed the front page stories (most really should belong on page 2 btw) have been a little biased in the way the headlines are written.

You mean like "Flash Player Performance on Droid 2 Found to Be Hit-or-Miss at Best" - https://www.macrumors.com/2010/08/2...e-on-droid-2-found-to-be-hit-or-miss-at-best/

When reading that headline it sounds like some huge government sponsored scientific test, involving 100s of PHD armed humanoids, was conducted and unbreakable conclusion was made! In fact it was just some 'never heard of laptop magazine' using most likely faulty device... :rolleyes:

MR didn't even bother to update that news with the fact that Laptop made some correction to that article...

Great journalism and reporting! :D

ps. I have only skimmed through this thread, and I may be speaking out of my ass.

In any case, hope you will enjoy this thread and we are looking forward to your winds!
 
Also, this thread is not YAFT (as you put it) - it is intentionally made in site and forum feedback section and it deals exclusively with fair, objective and unbiased journalism - or in other words - something that MR should be focusing at yet it clearly isn't doing...

Give me a break. :rolleyes: This isn't a news site, and the authors aren't journalists. It's an Apple rumors site, which by its very nature is a fan site. They have no responsibility to report fairly, and anyone that expects them to should go elsewhere.
 
Give me a break. :rolleyes: This isn't a news site...

Are you blind?

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=mac...b8dbb9ae9bb1b5

Title reads: Apple Mac Rumors and News You Care About

Description reads: Apple news and rumors with user contribution and commentary.

This is news site as any other news site - only difference is that it has its focus on Apple related info - that is all...

Or perhaps Arn didn't title it properly!?!?!


They have no responsibility to report fairly, and anyone that expects them to should go elsewhere.

What!?!?!

So everyone who is reading MR naturally expects them to report unfairly or what...!?!?!

What on earth are you trying to say???

Not sure if owner and rest of the staff would take such statement as compliment... I know I wouldn't!
 
Are you blind?

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=mac...b8dbb9ae9bb1b5

Title reads: Apple Mac Rumors and News You Care About

Description reads: Apple news and rumors with user contribution and commentary.

This is news site as any other news site - only difference is that it has its focus on Apple related info - that is all...

Or perhaps Arn didn't title it properly!?!?!

The title is MacRumors. Why are you skipping over that word? Are you blind?

Lighten up.:rolleyes:

Maybe you should sue them in the world court.
 
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