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In about 5 years:

Mobile OS usage:
35% iOS
20% Windows phone OS
20% Kindle OS
15% Android OS
10% Other

Occurrences of viruses and malware over 5 year period:
01% iOS
20% Windows phone OS
00% Kindle OS
75% Android OS
04% Other
 
In about 5 years:

Mobile OS usage:
35% iOS
20% Windows phone OS
20% Kindle OS
15% Android OS
10% Other

Occurrences of viruses and malware over 5 year period:
01% iOS
20% Windows phone OS
00% Kindle OS
75% Android OS
04% Other

The chance that this actually will happen:
00%
 
Only true in the sense that every Honda Fit owner could have chose to buy an Audi R8 but didn't.

Not every Android device is purchased. My brother has one only because IT WAS FREE (and he has no clue how to use even 10% of the functions). He has never once purchased an app.

Except that a Honda Fit/Audi R8 analogy is so full of fail, your cup runneth over. We aren't talking about a $15,000 and $150,000 car. It's a phone......A PHONE. I get blown away by people who seem to think an Apple product is the equivalent of an exotic automobile. An iPhone costs a few hundred dollars. I'm pretty sure that if someone is in the market for a smartphone, and really wants an iPhone, they could scrounge together a few hundred dollars to buy one, so long as they are employed.

As for your brother getting one free? All I have to say is "Giddyup, Apple." Instead of sneering at the fact Androids are being given away, maybe you should ask yourself why someone can get an Android for free, while there is more or less no incentive from Apple whatsoever, to entice you to purchase an iPhone.
 
Apple is for people who like quality high-end stuff

Very true. That's why every Mac now comes with a Blu-ray drive, and several of them include a BD burner, so when you're done editing something that was shot in full HD, you can play it back in the highest quality possible.

Oh, wait...
 
Very true. That's why every Mac now comes with a Blu-ray drive, and several of them include a BD burner, so when you're done editing something that was shot in full HD, you can play it back in the highest quality possible.

Oh, wait...

Yep. True high-END.
Let's add game developers (talking about big boys) who use all those macs... To browse internet since apps like 3DS Max don't even exist on mac. Im not even gonna go into the plug-ins territory for apps like photoshop. That is the reason i sold my Mac Pro. Why would I need even best equipement there is if it's os doesnt give me the tools i need. And please don't talk bootcamp and etc. Buying a overpriced mac to run windows on it just screams i am stupid and like to waste money.
 
That it, you went with a less pollish phone because of Flash, well I am glad your happy with all that advertising. I must admit I have yet to miss it. Does anyone here except maybe porn :eek: miss flash at all. I for one do not. Brighter screen really ROFL now that is a funny one. :rolleyes:

Are you for real?

Flash is a lot more than ads and porn, and is all over the web. The only reason the iPhone doesn't have it is because Steve Jobs wanted to become the mobile Google with iAd.

And yes, I really do like the 4" bright SAMOLED screen.

Do you actually know what you are talking about, or do you get your info from other fanboys?

Apple needs to unlock the iPhone and allow Flash (iAd is dead, anyway).

It will make the iPhone much more competitive and it will be a good thing for the fanboys, too.
 
Very true. That's why every Mac now comes with a Blu-ray drive, and several of them include a BD burner, so when you're done editing something that was shot in full HD, you can play it back in the highest quality possible.

Oh, wait...

You can buy one if you need it but I haven't used one in over a year. thats so 1990's, just download
 
Apple Fans: Look, let's step outside the reality distortion field for just a minute here.

Apple is both a hardware and software company. Right now Android's passing them on phones, and I honestly think (gasp) that will be inevitable with tablets as well since ipad mobile pricing is awful, and someone WILL be able to undercut them eventually, as their prices aren't low (A subsidized Xoom is much, much cheaper than an iPad 3G).

That said:

iTunes is profitable, as are the App Store. Even though the App Store needs the iOS platform to be meaningful, you can buy things with Windows. If Apple's mobile products weren't software driven and usable on non-Apple hardware (Windows), the idea that iOS would have 25% of phone marketshare is a non-starter.

I honestly do not think its too late for Apple to start selling OS X on PCs. Vista gave them a chance to do that. Apple's OS isn't as good as the fanboys think, but I use and like it. If they could get 50% of the marketshare-and back earlier last decade, I think that was possible-then Apple would be in a very, very good position to be a hardware and software producer.

Frankly, you buy Macs because they're seamless: The hardware's generic, but the SOFTWARE is good. And if you want to make the time investment in hacking, you can run Apple Software on whatever you pleased.

I agree. Google's CEO was one of Apple's board of directors.

Everyone always praises Jobs but he made the same mistake twice. And it comes from his stubbornness.

Even though Apple stock is at an all time high sell now. It's only going downhill from here.

The same thing will happen with the tablet.
 
Yep. True high-END.
Let's add game developers (talking about big boys) who use all those macs... To browse internet since apps like 3DS Max don't even exist on mac. Im not even gonna go into the plug-ins territory for apps like photoshop. That is the reason i sold my Mac Pro. Why would I need even best equipement there is if it's os doesnt give me the tools i need. And please don't talk bootcamp and etc. Buying a overpriced mac to run windows on it just screams i am stupid and like to waste money.

What plugins can't you find for PS, you must not know how to find anything. I have over 200 plugins for PS
 
...Frankly, you buy Macs because they're seamless: The hardware's generic, but the SOFTWARE is good. And if you want to make the time investment in hacking, you can run Apple Software on whatever you pleased.

Actually, I personally buy Mac hardware because it's by far the best designed, and it's well made.

I bought a few Dell monitors for our office a while back, now they sit in a closet, because nobody wants to use them. And they look like cheap cr@p next to Apple's products, even old ones.

Just like good looks is important in spouses, good hardware design is worth a bit extra too.
 
I love that argument - who told Apple to only make 1 phone? Nobody it was their decision. This is PC vs Mac all over again - history repeating itself.

I can't wait to see how Steve Jobs spins this somehow at WWDC - my guess is he'll throw iPod Touches and iPads into their numbers so it doesn't look as horrible as the Nielsen chart shows.

At the end of the day, the truth hurts - Android is the new defacto platform for mobile and that means developers, developers, developers.

Next up...tablets :D

I think all he will have to do is show snapshots of the largest developer checks and totals around how much has been paid to iOS developers in the last year and quarter. That should be enough.

As one very insightful poster/developer pointed out, people who get free phones really are not that interested in buying apps that cost as much or more than their phone. At some point in time, a developer has to pay the rent and feed the kids; even if they buy into "Jobs is evil and Google is open." They may not develop for iOS, but they will stop sinking hours into efforts that have no payoff.
 
This may be, but I convinced a very vocal and hardcore "Droid" fanatic at my work to see the error of his ways and switch to an iPhone 4. I feel accomplished!
 
This does not come as a surprise and yes it might happen with the tablets too.

But honestly, what does market share mean to a company? Nothing except maybe some bragging rights.

What is important for the company? How much money they make with it - after all they are not a charity. Even with a much smaller market share, Apple will make more money with it (absolute or even more if you compare money per percent market share). This will give them plenty of cash to keep inventing new cool stuff.

If market share does not reflect on the income, than something is wrong in the business model of the company.

At least I can buy quality phones and can rest assured that they keep inventing new stuff - and I don't have to buy the cheap buy 1 for 2 clone a year later (best recent example when the iPad killers got send back to the drawing board after the iPad2 was released (even though it had not that many new things in it).

Anyway - as many said before, good that competition exists and that everyone can choose whatever they prefer.
 
Actually, they are merging, and that's because of the huge debt that Porsche got due to trying to take over Volkswagen. (BTW, the current CEO of Porsche AG is from Volkswagen, that's not generally how you do it after you've taken over another company, more like what happens when you've lost.)

Actually!! I think we are totally confused by the multi tier structure of Porsche, and it appears that Many media sources I was trying to read up on this topic are as well. Many are refrencing Porsche SE, when they are actually talking about Porsche AG. My discussion point has been Porsche SE, but this entire topic gets muddy when one side is talking SE, while the other is AG!

Porsche SE
Porsche AG


A recent Article from Reutiers, and what I remembered reading when I saw your first post, and what made me correct you. I believe (now) that we are both correct, because I was thinking in terms of Porsche SE, while you were focusing on Porsche AG. I am still confused as to how it all works, but I knew I was correct in understanding that Porsche SE had a high (if not majority) voting stake in VW, due to shares currently owned.

Reuters.com said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/13/porsche-idUSWEA435620110413

FRANKFURT, April 13 | Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:29am EDT
Porsche SE, which controls about half of the voting rights of both sports-car maker Porsche AG and Volkswagen (VOWG.DE), had offered holders of ordinary and preference shares the chance to buy three shares for every four they own at 38 euros per share.

VW's Current investor relations appear to confirm both this article, and my understanding.

Volkswagen Group said:
http://www.volkswagenag.com/vwag/vwcorp/content/en/investor_relations/share/Shareholder_Structure.html
Current voting rights distribution (as at December 31, 2010)

50.74% Porsche Automobil Holding SE, Stuttgart
2.37% Porsche GmbH, Salzburg
20.00% State of Lower Saxony, Hanover
17.00% Qatar Holding
9.89% Others

Regardless of any of this, the merger is still in limbo. Meaning that they are not yet joined in the process of sinking.
 
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This does not come as a surprise and yes it might happen with the tablets too.

But honestly, what does market share mean to a company? Nothing except maybe some bragging rights.

What is important for the company? How much money they make with it - after all they are not a charity. Even with a much smaller market share, Apple will make more money with it (absolute or even more if you compare money per percent market share). This will give them plenty of cash to keep inventing new cool stuff.

If market share does not reflect on the income, than something is wrong in the business model of the company.

At least I can buy quality phones and can rest assured that they keep inventing new stuff - and I don't have to buy the cheap buy 1 for 2 clone a year later (best recent example when the iPad killers got send back to the drawing board after the iPad2 was released (even though it had not that many new things in it).

Anyway - as many said before, good that competition exists and that everyone can choose whatever they prefer.

A little off topic, but I was at Best Buy earlier buying an iPad 2 case, when I guy walks up to a Best Buy clerk and asks "Do you guys sell Blackberries new Tablet?" I just wanted ask him, but why?!

With that being said Apple releases 1 phone a year, and Androids OEMS release MANY phones a year. There is no single Android device that sells even remotely as well as the 1 iPhone.
 
I find this news of increasing Android market share strange. At least where I live, the iOS:Android ratio seems to be at least 60:40, maybe even 70:30. I see a relatively small amount of people using Androids compared to what these analysts keep reporting.

Maybe it's just my location, but something tells me that these reports are somewhat flawed.
 
A little off topic, but I was at Best Buy earlier buying an iPad 2 case, when I guy walks up to a Best Buy clerk and asks "Do you guys sell Blackberries new Tablet?" I just wanted ask him, but why?!

With that being said Apple releases 1 phone a year, and Androids OEMS release MANY phones a year. There is no single Android device that sells even remotely as well as the 1 iPhone.

Thats why I don't believe any statistic - you always can bend the numbers to see what you want to see:

- compare iOS powered devices against android powered devices
- compare iPhone vs all android phones
- compare best selling iPhone vs best selling Android Phone
- compare best selling iPad vs best selling Android Tablet

and even in those groups the one who tweaks the numbers can be even more selective - none of these comparisons is fully fair because there is always something left out.

Anyway - I don't care too much about the numbers. I know I love my iPhone - I admit, I never owned an Android, but I played with many from friends and colleges, but still prefer my iPhone ... that is MY decision and other people have different preferences.

Why cant just more than one phone OS exist peacefully next to each other and everyone chooses what fits their needs and wallet ?

Why does everything always has to turn into some almost religious fight?

Isn't the US called the land of freedom - so everyone should have the freedom to choose whatever they want as a phone without being labeled 'stupid fanboy' or anything like this.
 
I find this news of increasing Android market share strange. At least where I live, the iOS:Android ratio seems to be at least 60:40, maybe even 70:30. I see a relatively small amount of people using Androids compared to what these analysts keep reporting.

Maybe it's just my location, but something tells me that these reports are somewhat flawed.

I run a retail business, and while I see a good amount of Droids, the majority of the people seem to have iPhones with a few Blackberries thrown in from time to time.
 
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