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Yes facts which I can speak with some authority about because myself and everyother iPhail 4 user I know have this problem.
As I said keep drinking the foolaid.
-aggie- said:The trouble for you fanbois defending the indefensible is that the iPhone 4 is rendered utterly useless by the merest tip of the finger. No death grip required. Keep drinking the koolaid.
Fixed your spelling error.
Most iPhone 4 owners have never experienced this issue. It has nothing to do with koolaid. Its just facts, which the media and posters like you dont care about.
Yes facts which I can speak with some authority about because myself and everyother iPhail 4 user I know have this problem.
As I said keep drinking the foolaid.
I pointed you to a VIDEO, not a photo. Funny how said the photo had motion after clicked it.
. In regards to my video, many people here disputed that not all iPhone 4's had problems and these same people said they wanted a video showing 2 iPhone 4's in the same location with one of them working perfectly with no signal loss regardless how you held it and the other phone dropping signal. I created a thread here and posted a video from my local Apple store proving that fact that not all iPhones have this problem, but you missed that thread.
Give me a break. For you to admit RIM phones lose bars too would be sacrilege. Stop drinking the RIM koolaid fanboy.
Shambo! You're back? Or, maybe you were never gone?
Hopefully this time you will be.
Your rude and ignorant posts have been reported.
Wonder why? Go back and read your last dozen or more posts, you have absolutely nothing nice or productive to say to anyone.
In every post your insulting and cutting someone up for voicing their opinion on a discussion forum. Not such a pleasant thing to do, and sickening for everyone else to read.
So here's to hoping you're on the way out
This is probably the most uncorrelated reply I have ever seen so far in macrumors. Mr. Fusion was talking about hype created by apple at product launches and your response was sarcasm over apple's innovation. bravo!
its common sense to at least read others' comments before trolling.
When did common sense become a requirement in the last few weeks on these forums? When has common sense been used by the media to report on this issue?
Also, you’ve got plenty more posts to complain about trolling, if you choose to report them. So, get cracking. These would be the ones not using any common sense, BTW.
Do some people have a valid issue? Of course. Do most have an issue? No way and everyone knows it or the media would have lines of people to report returning the phone. The 3GS had 6% returns at this time last year, but only less than a ⅓ have returned the 4. These same posters above would say give it a week and you’ll see the return rate dramatically increase. Hogwash. The 3Gs had its own issues last year that had these forums filled with threads about yellow screens, bezels, battery life, etc., but you didn’t see massive returns on it either.
If the media really wanted to responsibly report this issue, they’d use a respectable polling agency to call iPhone 4 owners throughout the country until they got a representative sample of how much dissatisfaction there truly is. However, the media chooses to find one person on the street and if they say they have problems, then that’s what you see on the news.
I bought my iPhone 4 after all this hysteria started. I researched, read the forums, listened to the news reports, and I was able to make a decision that the 4 was worth buying. I was ready to return it if I experienced anything like what some were reporting. I haven’t had issues anywhere, no matter how weak the signal. The phone is better than my 3G for calling, since I’m hard of hearing and they made the speaker louder as well.
I pointed you to a VIDEO, not a photo. Funny how said the photo had motion after clicked it.
I’m going to call you out on this post, sorry. Did you ever go back to make a new video after seeing the comments about the video you presented? There were definite holes with what you presented. I believe you, but you needed to do better, IMO.
"RIM fanboy", right. I'm not sure if those strange Canadian phones with six thousand buttons on them are even available in Scandinavia, but if they are, I have yet to see one. The BlackBerry demographic sticks with Nokia and SonyEricsson in my neck of the woods.
No, I'm an iPhone user ('08 white 3G). I would hesitate to attribute the term "fanboy" to myself because I consider phones mere tools and to be a "fan" of a phone sounds about as idiotic as being a fan of forks, brooms or tire pumps. I realize there are insecure school kids out there who make phones part of their identity, but due to my age it's not really my thing - if I started hanging around schoolyards at age 41 and asking if they want to see what I have in my pocket, I would probably be arrested.
I am however not a fan of deceptive marketing and PR smoke screens, which is why I think Apple handled this thing terribly from start to finish. And sadly, it wasn't unexpected.
The one good thing about all of this is that it helps bring the AAPL stock down for a short while which is good if you want a deal on it.
No need to call me out on anything. People here said they wanted a video showing 2 iPhone 4's, one working, one not, in the same location. I did just that. I certainly didn't see a lot of comments (outside of the usual haters, regardless what proof you show) telling me I didn't show enough proof. Bottom line is I showed a video of what was requested. I don't work for you or anyone here so if some of the haters here didn't approve of how my video was produced then who cares? It was to be expected anyway. Again, I don't work for anyone here and I don't need confirmation if I did an acceptable job or not or if my video is acceptable to the HIGH standards of "never-pleased" MR crowd that look for any slight hole so they can crap on people as if they are "PERFECT", but in reality all they do is blow hot air.
I pointed you to a VIDEO, not a photo. Funny how said the photo had motion after clicked it.
The video does not show him putting his thumb on the phone and the bars dropping. It was obvious to me that you saw the thumb on the phone in the still photo and assumed that's what is in the video. It's not.
Watch the video.
And please, again, tell me where Apple proves that ANY other phone suffers signal loss due to the placement of a single finger,- you said Apple proved this, and insulted someone by calling them a troll for not agreeing with you.
Your supposed proof doesn't show what you said it does, so where's the proof?
No need to call me out on anything. People here said they wanted a video showing 2 iPhone 4's, one working, one not, in the same location. I did just that. I certainly didn't see a lot of comments (outside of the usual haters, regardless what proof you show) telling me I didn't show enough proof. Bottom line is I showed a video of what was requested. I don't work for you or anyone here so if some of the haters here didn't approve of how my video was produced then who cares? It was to be expected anyway. Again, I don't work for anyone here and I don't need confirmation if I did an acceptable job or not or if my video is acceptable to the HIGH standards of "never-pleased" MR crowd that look for any slight hole so they can crap on people as if they are "PERFECT", but in reality all they do is blow hot air.
If youre saying I blow hot air, then I dont know what to say to you. I was only making a suggestion to make your videos hold more weight. Since you could have easily gone back to the store that should have been easy to do. If you choose to not do that, thats your problem. Im certainly not a hater, if youre also putting me in that category. Anyway, I dont want to get off-topic on your video, so forget I said anything.
The trouble for you fanbois defending the indefensible is that the iPhail 4 is rendered utterly useless by the merest tip of the finger. No death grip required. Keep drinking the koolaid.
the trouble for haters like you is that you are under the assumption that the finger issue is a problem with every iphone4. i can't drop my signal lower than 4 bars with the death grip and i've tried touching the outer band in every place with my finger tip and never once lost any bars.
you = idiot
I love this video; Apple is more of an arrogant cry baby today than they have ever been. Steve Jobs just doesnt have the ability to stand up by himself and face his critics alone. So to prop himself up, he has to drag in his competitors and say see
they also have antenna problems. What a wimp.
If I don't use your name, don't jump to conclusions, period. Oh I see, "I could just as EASILY gone back to the store". You mean the one that's 35 minutes away from my home? I don't think so. I have better things to do then spend my endless hours driving around town constantly proving MR wrong, I was in the area at the time and decided to stop to Apple. And what exactly was wrong with my video that you disapprove of?
I didnt say I disapproved of it. However, you know there were plenty of posters in that thread that did, correct? That was my point, otherwise youre going to keep getting the same comments from cmaier and the others.
Also 35 minutes is nothing. I live over an hour and a half away from one.
I only have one iPhone 4, so I can only show a phone that has two bars and it not losing signal when touching it, however I have to go out in the country and record it, which I havent done. Even if I did, everyone wants two iPhones with one not working, which I cant do, since I dont know anyone that has the issue.
My comments are limited to asking him to prove the statement he made where he insulted an innocent poster as a troll for not understanding that apple had already proven that other phones suffer death from a single touch.
My attitude is that if you are going to insult someone for not realizing that apple had proven something, apple better have proven it.
And no matter what hldan's videos show, unless hldan works for apple, they don't prove that APPLE has proven anything.
Hldan didn't say "other phones do suffer signal loss at the touch of a single finger." He decried the poster for not realizing that Apple had proven this. Apple hasn't proven this, is my point, and Hldan has been unable or unwilling to point us at apple's proof.
Absolutely ridiculous post. 35 minutes is nothing? Well, my gas is more important to me then to come on MR with a video and people telling me that they disapprove and request for me to go back and expect me to do so, get real. If you didn't disapprove of my video then why the heck did you bring it up then and make such a big point about it multiple posts?
Lot of newbies lately, uh ?
Two Nokia here, an N97 and a 5230. Both with 2-3 bars signal loss, and you don't really need to "death grip": a normal grip in the lower half is enough.
But "incidentally" your Nokia is a perfect one ...
The difference is in your first line: you (like me) don't live in USA. All those whiners live in a country where 3G network is a joke, especially AT&T.
In corporate culture, everyone talks about Blackberry. They even have a nice nickname, the Crackberry, because of their addictive nature and "tie you to your job 24/7" functionality.
Everyone talks about RIM and the Blackberry, well, everyone outside the Apple community.
Yes, and nonetheless they attenuate signal when held in a normal way, like several videos demonstrated ...
Oh "I'm" rude? Oh, you weren't being insensitive to the fact that 35 minutes was a long drive for me to shoot another video for the never-pleased MR crowd? Don't worry, this will be my last post to you regardless what you say because now I know exactly who and what I am dealing with. You're not trying to help me.
Omg, is it so difficult to understand ? Move on an area with poor coverage (I.e. 2-3 bars) and you can reproduce the issue with almost every phone on the world ...
In his case is a propaganda
I'm start thinking someone is really paid to bash apple on this forum
I really dont care if you reply. Youre just very brash when you respond to people. Theres no need for that, especially with people who have the same POV as you (like me). Weird.
Anyway, if you think Im the enemy, then you havent read my posts. Read a bunch of them in different threads. So, my help was to help you have a better case. Its clear you dont care to improve your case, so whatever.
BTW, they dont believe you, because you never show in your video your hand touching the spot when you have the signal not going down (Im going by memory, since I dont feel like trying to find the video), but for some reason you focus on the top of the iPhone (obviously to show the signal). My posting here was simply to focus you on responding to all that, and you obviously choose not to. Soooo, most people arent going to believe your video. This is also why its not being posted everywhere like the rest of the videos. You have 4 Apple stores around you, where you did this four times from what you said above, but youre unwilling to make your case unrefutable.
Oh, and calling me insensitive is a joke. You havent seen insensitive, if you think that. I recommended you make the trip to help your case. To me 35 minutes is nothing. To you its not. I get that. Chill, but dont bother referring to your video until you get more evidence, since no one is going to believe you, just like they dont believe me when I say the bars dont go down and I have a pretty good rep on this site.