I guess nobody should ever look for reviews. Just go buy the product and take your chances right? I should IGNORE all those countless youtube videos of a user just placing their finger on the gap, causing all the bars to drop?
I guess nobody should ever look for reviews. Just go buy the product and take your chances right? I should IGNORE all those countless youtube videos of a user just placing their finger on the gap, causing all the bars to drop?
I should IGNORE all those countless youtube videos of a user just placing their finger on the gap, causing all the bars to drop?
for the rest of the mear mortals I would suggest taking Apple up on the option of a free case if you are unfortunate enough to hold the phone in a way that compromises its signal. Personally I always like to place my little finger under the phone (admittedly I have a iPhone 3GS) which changes my grip entirely and from what I can see would mean I would miss the point of doom if I were to hold the fabled iPhone 4. I don't do this because it improves reception on the 3GS or anything just I am a bit of a cluts and this reduces the chance of my iphone slipping out of my hand. It also frees up my thumb a quick cheeky text. Hey do you think I could call this the iGrip? LOL.Excellent post.Um, no it IS relevant. Look, there are two things going on here:
(1) The fallacy of a double standard: This is when you hold one company to a higher standard than another. If customers were unhappy, and just customers, then I think Apple might have avoided pointing out the other phones. But when the Media got involved, the implication became that ONLY Apple has this problem and has to fix it. That's a double standard. And Apple has every right to say, "If you're going to hold us to this standard, you have to hold others." Otherwise, Apple is going to be punished for something EVERYONE is doing. So if the Media is going to punish a company for this flaw, why just Apple?
(2) Evidence of Innocence: Now this is where it gets really important. Please, try to understand this point. If Apple DEMONSTRATES that other phones have this problem, then it makes its point that this design flaw can't be avoided. Meaning there is no phone yet made that has conquered this issue. That's important. If none of the other phones had this problem, it would indicate that Apple had bad or sloppy engineers, designers, or had, indeed, picked form over function (as accused). By showing that the other phones have this issue, Apple defends--and presumably proves--it's assertion that this issue can't be entirely avoided--yet. All cellphones will have this problem to a greater or lesser extent.
Thus, once again, they weren't negligent. Keep in mind, they're being compared to BP and Toyota--who WERE negligent.
I'm kinda amazed at people bitching about Apple showing the other phones, by the way. What I'm getting is that none of you wanted Apple to present evidence in its defense. You just wanted Apple to "man up!" and...What? Say, "We made the worst phone ever. Bring it back. We'll give you all Blackberries and close our doors forever in shame and failure...."
Pointing out the other companies is EVIDENCE that this is a flaw that all phones have. Now what *may* be a mistake on Apple's part, and Jobs pointed it out, was where they put the break can be easily found and touched to make it happen. And they put the antenna on the outside which also makes it easier. BUT Jobs also pointed out why they did this. It wasn't out of being sloppy or negligence or even to make it pretty. It was so the phone could get better reception in weaker spots. And users claim that the phone does do that! So, whether it is a worse problem on Apple's phone than others depends. Apple argues that the numbers so far seem to indicate that it isn't worse than other phones--but it might be easier to cause. However, that easier element also gives users an advantage.
If you're being accused of a crime, you have every right to defend yourself and present any evidence there is of innocence. This was why those demonstrations of other phones were presented. But Apple did say they're sorry. And you can get a refund if you're unhappy with the phone. So. What more do you want from them? Seriously. What could they say that would satisfy you? "Humility" you say? So, "We're not perfect. We make mistakes. We want our customers happy...." isn't humble enough? Why not? And would you buy a product from any company that said, "To be honest and humble, our products have problems. Let me give you a list of all that's not perfect...."
Agreed.
You've hit the nail right on the head.
Precisely - amazing how many whiners feel justified with their biased complaints.
Perhaps those who continue to gripe have an alternative agenda here.
The FCC is pretty much requiring handset makers to place antennas at the bottom of the phones now so as to have radio frequency as far away from the head as possible.
Actually I CAN answer that!
Can we all just get free bumpers
{QUOTE davesw ]
Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.
* http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-kFc..._with_droid_x/
* Samsung I9000 Galaxy S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k
* HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag
* Samsung Galaxy 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
* Samsung Galaxy 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg
* Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk
* Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH...eature=related
* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA
* Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA
* http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-kFc..._with_droid_x/
* Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v
* Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54
* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g
* Android G1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaxhjUs9M
* "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem): http://www.google.com/support/forum/...9184c33e&hl=en
It's more like when you break something as a kid and your parents, uncles, cousins, etc. start beating the crap out of you and you have to remind them that all kids break things and it's not fair to single you out.
God I used to HATE when that happened!
It's not juvenile, it's using the facts to support your position.
1) True
2) All phones drop signal when touched on specific points. Whether with a fingertip or all the skin on your hand. The only difference among phones is the way they report the bars.
