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Ive had my iPhone 6 since August of last year. Before that I had used an iPhone 5s for almost a year, and I really liked it, I always said that it was the best size and I would never switch. But, I got an unexpected upgrade, and got the 6, and now I love it. The screen size really is great and since I have bigger hands, I have no problems using it one handed.
However, I am slightly tempted by the iPhone SE rumors. It would actually be an upgrade from the 6 with the improved 12mp camera and Live Photos, as well as the A9 processor. It seems like it might be really nice. I'm not sure if I would actually want to give up the screen size, but it may me nice to use a 4 inch iPhone again. Anyone else thinking the same?
[doublepost=1457058560][/doublepost]My Iphone 6s display went out on me last week. So I threw my sim card in an old 5s, as I took my iphone 6s to the Apple Store for repair. They ended up replacing the phone. However, I really enjoyed using the 5S that afternoon and thought to myself that I really like the 4", 5S size and weight better than the 6s. I just do. The weight and size are perfect. Apple, PLEASE do not skimp on the new 4" iphone. Please make the internals and camera, etc. the same as the 6S, just smaller/lighter. It will fly off the shelves.
 
Unless people really want that 4 inch phone not sure there are many positives in terms of specs. A9 chip is expected though so that's one thing that won't be a downgrade.
 
Unless people really want that 4 inch phone not sure there are many positives in terms of specs. A9 chip is expected though so that's one thing that won't be a downgrade.
Well the 12MP camera and Live Photos would be a nice upgrade, even from the 6. Apart from 3D touch it sounds like this thing is gonna be pretty much on par with the 6s, which is a great thing.
 
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Well there have been rumors that it might have 2gb or 1gb ram and it could have anything from the a9 to the a7 chip. No 3d touch which I get some people don't care about. I have also heard that it may or may not have apple pay. Also there have been rumors that this would be priced lower then the 6 or even the 5s and would replace the 5s just like the 5c replaced the 5. We won't know anything until apple makes the final announcement. Rumors have flown around before that never came true. For example the rumor that Apple is getting rid of the home button, or an edge to edge display. In all reality I could be wrong and it could have all the specs of the 6s minus the screen size and 3d touch. But lets not get our hopes up and lest just wait to see what apple announces.
 
Well there have been rumors that it might have 2gb or 1gb ram and it could have anything from the a9 to the a7 chip. No 3d touch which I get some people don't care about. I have also heard that it may or may not have apple pay. Also there have been rumors that this would be priced lower then the 6 or even the 5s and would replace the 5s just like the 5c replaced the 5. We won't know anything until apple makes the final announcement. Rumors have flown around before that never came true. For example the rumor that Apple is getting rid of the home button, or an edge to edge display. In all reality I could be wrong and it could have all the specs of the 6s minus the screen size and 3d touch. But lets not get our hopes up and lest just wait to see what apple announces.

I have never heard one rumor saying a7. Old rumors said a8 but never the a7.

It will have Apple Pay no doubt, all their stuff going forward will have it.
 
I have never heard one rumor saying a7. Old rumors said a8 but never the a7.

It will have Apple Pay no doubt, all their stuff going forward will have it.


It was an early on rumor when we thought that the new phone was just going to be a redesigned 5s. I think that's where the name 5se was coming from.
 
It was an early on rumor when we thought that the new phone was just going to be a redesigned 5s. I think that's where the name 5se was coming from.

I've been following this since the beginning and I don't remember that at all. It would make no sense either, the a7 came out with the 5s so there would be zero chance of Apple making a redesigned iphone 5s with the same specs as the iphone 5s, it would cost them too much money, people would have just bought the iphone 5s. The iphone 5c is the exception as it replaced a year old iphone 5, the iphone 5s is almost 3 years old.

The rumored name of 5se was because of it being based on the iphone 5s, but with updated internals, like the a8 or a9.
 
Personally I prefer the 4.7" screen size and I use 3D Touch too much (especially multitask switcher) that i don't think I can use a daily driver without it currently

But I certainly appreciate a pocketable device and I'm considering getting this phone.

Looking forward to the March event, and if it's cheap enough perhaps I will sell off the 6 and get this as a secondary device
 
I currently own an iPhone 6 with 16 GB of storage. I've never had any problem since i've had it.
Still, I gotta say that I miss the possibility to use it with one hand (texting, emailing, even grabbing that app at the top right corner of the screen). That's why I also consider selling off my 6 to get the SE.

Personally, I wouldn't hesitate purchasing the SE if it had these features :
- The rumored 12 MP camera with live photos, 1080p @60fps (4K is useless to me, it uses way too much storage).
- Touch ID (couldn't do without it).
- LTE-A capability (very well deployed here in Paris, FR).
- Processor / memory as good as those the 6 already has.
- 32 GB of storage for the current 5s price ($499 in the US, or 559€).
 
I currently own an iPhone 6 with 16 GB of storage. I've never had any problem since i've had it.
Still, I gotta say that I miss the possibility to use it with one hand (texting, emailing, even grabbing that app at the top right corner of the screen). That's why I also consider selling off my 6 to get the SE.

Personally, I wouldn't hesitate purchasing the SE if it had these features :
- The rumored 12 MP camera with live photos, 1080p @60fps (4K is useless to me, it uses way too much storage).
- Touch ID (couldn't do without it).
- LTE-A capability (very well deployed here in Paris, FR).
- Processor / memory as good as those the 6 already has.
- 32 GB of storage for the current 5s price ($499 in the US, or 559€).

That last option about 32 GB base won't happen ...the rest we'll have to wait and see.
 
I use iPhone 6s and am switching to se the first day I can buy it online. Probably my wife will switch too and she has the 6 version. If Apple was not going to produce smaller phones was contemplating switching to any other that produced smaller compact Pro phones. Btw, all iPhones are pro and I find ridiculous naming one phone a pro and not another when they are all the same except the size pretty much...
Ufff was really getting tired of 6s size and slippery sides etc (I never use case as it makes the phone ugly and bulky plus sI never drop it maybe thats why also)...cant wait for SE.
 
Sounds like there are a lot of people who reluctantly switched to the 6, and are eager to get back to the smaller size.
Personally I still don't really know if I want the SE or not. I really enjoy my 6 but I think the SE could be a very comfortable size.
 
I'm not bothered if it lacks 3D touch however I may hesitate if it only has 1gb ram. My iPhone 6 (on 8.4.1) has been ok except for size however buying any phone with only 1gb ram with iOS 10 coming soon I'm not so sure about. I want the smaller form factor but I will have to wait and see what Apple does with the SE before I decide.
 
To add that I absolutely don't care about 3d feature; I have no use for it and have tried using it once; basically no need of it
 
Why not iPhone 6S mini?
Because it isn't going to have 3D Touch. If they called it the 6s mini people would expect it to be a 4 inch version of the iPhone 6s, but without 3D Touch it isn't a 6s. If it was the 6 mini people would associate it with the older iPhone 6, which wouldn't work cause it will most likely have a newer a9 and a better camera than the 6. The 5se name is still on the table but I think SE makes the most sense cause it removes the number naming scheme and therefore eliminates confusion. I hope Apple adopts a normal non-numeric naming scheme for the iPhone starting this year, as it is much simpler and easier.
 
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Sounds like there are a lot of people who reluctantly switched to the 6, and are eager to get back to the smaller size.
Personally I still don't really know if I want the SE or not. I really enjoy my 6 but I think the SE could be a very comfortable size.

I was happy to step up from my 5 to the 6, and have been completely satisfied/smitten with it and it still feels great, even though I'm due for a new one in September. I have gotten used to taking it out of my pocket to bend down and tie my shoe and adjusting it in my pocket in the split second before I sit in my car and then adjusting it again in my pocket once I sit in my car to make sure it has ample room and isn't under any stress.

I also have an iPod touch 6G that I've been playing with lately, and THAT feels FANTASTIC in the hand, the size and thinness is truly prime. Even feels fantastic with a PowerSupport Air Jacket on it. Keyboard takes some getting used to again, but it also took getting used to on my 6 at first.

For me I'll have to wait until September anyway, so I'll at least get to see what both the SE and the 7 offer before making a decision. The only thing that I may be a little uncomfortable with is that while the SE sounds to be like a 6S, which would be an upgrade from my current 6, by the time I'd be buying, I'd be only going one year ahead specs-wise, after waiting two years between phones, so it would still be year-old specs by the time I purchase. Not sure how I feel about that.
 
The 5se name is still on the table but I think SE makes the most sense cause it removes the number naming scheme and therefore eliminates confusion. I hope Apple adopts a normal non-numeric naming scheme for the iPhone starting this year, as it is much simpler and easier.

Well, removing the numbers causes as many problems as it solves. Unless Apple moves to a model where they are completely replacing the iPhone every year for all price points, then it's just going to become a confusion of letters.

If Apple continues their bumping down the current model after the next release for two generations, how would they possibly distinguish them? Rebrand them? Or just keep adding letters? And if so how is that different from numbers?

Let's say when the 7 is released they rebrand everything (and I'm not even including the Plus branding):

iPhone (7)
iPhone S (prev. 6s)
iPhone SE
iPhone B (prev. 6)

iPhone C (7s)
iPhone (7)
iPhone S (6s)
iPhone SE

iPhone E (8)
iPhone C (7s)
iPhone (7)
iPhone SEX (new SE model replacement)

This is still just as big a mess as using numbers.

Or let's say they do it like the MacBooks:

iPhone - late 2016 (7)
iPhone - late 2015 (6s)
iPhone - early 2015 (SE)
iPhone - late 2014 (6)

The numbers are just fine. The only time they don't work is when they introduce a mid-cycle model which has features that don't match the others. So perhaps they use letters for those models, or the 7 SE will change to "mini", or "classic", or maybe that will even happen with the release of the SE (SE being the code name). That's going to be a lot less confusing than a bunch of random letters for a product that gets yearly updates and persists on the market for 3 years or longer. At least numbers suggest a placement in a hierarchy.
 
Well, removing the numbers causes as many problems as it solves. Unless Apple moves to a model where they are completely replacing the iPhone every year for all price points, then it's just going to become a confusion of letters.

If Apple continues their bumping down the current model after the next release for two generations, how would they possibly distinguish them? Rebrand them? Or just keep adding letters? And if so how is that different from numbers?

Let's say when the 7 is released they rebrand everything (and I'm not even including the Plus branding):

iPhone (7)
iPhone S (prev. 6s)
iPhone SE
iPhone B (prev. 6)

iPhone C (7s)
iPhone (7)
iPhone S (6s)
iPhone SE

iPhone E (8)
iPhone C (7s)
iPhone (7)
iPhone SEX (new SE model replacement)

This is still just as big a mess as using numbers.

Or let's say they do it like the MacBooks:

iPhone - late 2016 (7)
iPhone - late 2015 (6s)
iPhone - early 2015 (SE)
iPhone - late 2014 (6)

The numbers are just fine. The only time they don't work is when they introduce a mid-cycle model which has features that don't match the others. So perhaps they use letters for those models, or the 7 SE will change to "mini", or "classic", or maybe that will even happen with the release of the SE (SE being the code name). That's going to be a lot less confusing than a bunch of random letters for a product that gets yearly updates and persists on the market for 3 years or longer. At least numbers suggest a placement in a hierarchy.
I meant just kinda doing it like MacBooks. When it's updated it could still be called just "iPhone", "iPhone Plus" or "iPhone mini/iPhone SE", with updated specs. The numbers are fine now, but eventually they will get too confusing.
 
I meant just kinda doing it like MacBooks. When it's updated it could still be called just "iPhone", "iPhone Plus" or "iPhone mini/iPhone SE", with updated specs. The numbers are fine now, but eventually they will get too confusing.

Right but I addressed that. A customer goes into the store and asks for an iPhone, and the sales person asks: "which one, the iPhone, iPhone Plus, iPhone SE, 2016, 2015, or 2014?" Or alternately the "current model, last years model, or the 3 year old model?"

I just don't see how that's any less confusing than 7, 6S, 6 ... it's still using numbers, just more of them. And when a customer is buying a new 7 in 2017, it reminds them the phone is already a year old, when Samsung may have just come out with the "Samsung 2017".

Again, if Apple sets three product price tiers like:

iPhone Pro Plus
iPhone Pro
iPhone Pro SE

iPhone Air Plus
iPhone Air
iPhone Air SE

iPhone Plus
iPhone
iPhone SE

And then replaces all three models every year, then they could possibly get away with that.
 
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Right but I addressed that. A customer goes into the store and asks for an iPhone, and the sales person asks: "which one, the iPhone, iPhone Plus, iPhone SE, 2016, 2015, or 2014?" Or alternately the "current model, last years model, or the 3 year old model?"

I just don't see how that's any less confusing than 7, 6S, 6 ... it's still using numbers, just more of them. And when a customer is buying a new 7 in 2017, it reminds them the phone is already a year old, when Samsung may have just come out with the "Samsung 2017".
True. I guess there is no super simple way to name iPhones. Macs don't have older models available so it's easier for them to use the mentioned naming scheme.
 
True. I guess there is no super simple way to name iPhones. Macs don't have older models available so it's easier for them to use the mentioned naming scheme.

I added a bit more after you responded. If Apple can update all three models every year, then as the phones move down the price ladder, they are rebranded. But that could also cause some confusion. But less so, because the new "Air", or new "Pro" will have new features that weren't previously available at those price points.

I suppose they could always just come out with a more straight forward classification, with a little better marketing spin:

iPhone Best S,M,L,XL (32/64/128/256) Gray, Silver, Gold, Pink
iPhone Better S,M,L (16/32/64/128) Gray, Silver, Gold
iPhone Good S,M,L (16/32/64) Gray, Silver

So whenever you go into the store, and buy one of the three classifications, you are always getting the latest technology for that price point
 
I switched from a 5s to a 6s in September and I'm still not used to the size. Will I miss the extra real estate? Absolutely. Will I miss having to move the phone around in my hand to use it one-handed? Absolutely not. Will I miss having to re-learn how to type after 7 years of having the same width iPhone keyboard? Absolutely not.

That being said, if the SE has 1GB of RAM, I won't be making the switch. Not worrying about lag has been my favorite feature thus far.
 
That being said, if the SE has 1GB of RAM, I won't be making the switch. Not worrying about lag has been my favorite feature thus far.

I did forget to mention this above in my post, 1 GB RAM will be an automatic non-starter.
 
Because it isn't going to have 3D Touch. If they called it the 6s mini people would expect it to be a 4 inch version of the iPhone 6s, but without 3D Touch it isn't a 6s. If it was the 6 mini people would associate it with the older iPhone 6, which wouldn't work cause it will most likely have a newer a9 and a better camera than the 6. The 5se name is still on the table but I think SE makes the most sense cause it removes the number naming scheme and therefore eliminates confusion. I hope Apple adopts a normal non-numeric naming scheme for the iPhone starting this year, as it is much simpler and easier.

I feel like either way naming it anything close to a previous version will have some negative feedback.
 
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