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Just unboxed my 2.6/16/256 rMBP. I immediately checked the screen manufacturer and its a LG :(

However, I ran the checkerboard test for 15 min and so far so good.
Build week 35.

Try leaving just Google main page for 15 min with the dark grey background wallpaper. I find it more than enough to see image retention.
 
Awesome on the returns.
That means there be lots of refurbs..
Thanks everyone

Just give em a chance for some bug fixes, as in previous machines.

As Mr. Burns says...
Excellent!

:rolleyes:
 
had an LG screen got image retention and white splotches. complained in apple, got another display. the colour is slightly different, more subtle and has a slightly different tint. ican only assume that they either fixed the chemical impurities problem or gave me a samsung. should be fine to get rmbp now for people debating over it as theyve fixed any early production problems
 
Try leaving just Google main page for 15 min with the dark grey background wallpaper. I find it more than enough to see image retention.

I just left google open for 1hr, not a single bit of IR :cool:
Lets see how it develops over time..

Edit: While is was looking for IR i found a dead pixel, but its so hard to see, you really need to put your nose against the screen.
 
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All done trying here, after receiving another LG with IR issues. To be fair, at least this one didn't come out of the box "pre-burned" with images. But within minutes everything I'm doing is leaving IR on the screen.

I'm not sure how to determine the build week but it arrived today and was a BTO.
 
In thinking about getting an rMBP, this image retention problem has me concerned. I lived through the CRT phosphor imaging problems for years and don't want to repeat that experience.

I saw this in Wikipedia, and it's the same as in other publications (like LCD manufacturers).

Image persistence can usually be reversed by allowing the liquid crystals to return to their relaxed state. In other words, turning off an LCD display for hours or days will relax the crystals and eliminate the image retention. For PC monitors, it is also ideal to rotate desktops, and hide away elements on the screen which normally would be displayed perpetually (like the taskbar in Microsoft Windows or the Dock in Mac OS X). The usage of a screensaver that has a constantly changing image can help as well.

Another approach to removing LCD image persistence is to first create a solid white image and display the image as a screensaver covering the entire display area for an extended period of time.


Has anyone tried this "solid white image" technique to see if the image persistence lessens or disappears?

I thought the "turning off the LCD for hours or days" was pretty funny. Like that would ever happen with a rMBP.
 
In thinking about getting an rMBP, this image retention problem has me concerned. I lived through the CRT phosphor imaging problems for years and don't want to repeat that experience.

I saw this in Wikipedia, and it's the same as in other publications (like LCD manufacturers).

Image persistence can usually be reversed by allowing the liquid crystals to return to their relaxed state. In other words, turning off an LCD display for hours or days will relax the crystals and eliminate the image retention. For PC monitors, it is also ideal to rotate desktops, and hide away elements on the screen which normally would be displayed perpetually (like the taskbar in Microsoft Windows or the Dock in Mac OS X). The usage of a screensaver that has a constantly changing image can help as well.

Another approach to removing LCD image persistence is to first create a solid white image and display the image as a screensaver covering the entire display area for an extended period of time.


Has anyone tried this "solid white image" technique to see if the image persistence lessens or disappears?

I thought the "turning off the LCD for hours or days" was pretty funny. Like that would ever happen with a rMBP.

This is much worse than CRT from a practical perspective. It just happens so fast that it can't be avoided once it begins. I used CRTs from the 80s until just recently (was a late holdout) and never had any burn-in. My last rMBP came straight out of the box with retention that still isn't gone and my most recent one is leaving images of my activity for a half-hour or so after I'm done. That's on day one.

Now, yes the rMBP stuff should all be temporary but do you really want to drop $2500+ only to deal with this? I'm sure there are some that it doesn't bother but yikes..
 
Wow

gonna be able to look at my

2.7Ghz/16GB/768SSD rMBP's LG soon too
 
Finally did all the IR tests. None with a week 23 LG.

Update: had some IR show today. Very slight
 
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I have almost owned this computer for a week now. My wallpaper is the dark gray wallpaper by default since I don't want to confuse icons with wallpaper elements.

I have left the screen on for 2 hours straight... playing iTunes over a Labor Day home party plus another 6 hours during my Mom's birthday on September 4th.

Absolutely ZERO image retention.

Plus side-by-side comparison with my old 15" Pro (Samsung screen) is night and day. Higher contrast, deeper black, colors pop out more... it's simply amazing. Many friends asked over the last few days if the screen was a Samsung screen.

So I think there are definitely LG screens out there that are perfect.
 
I have almost owned this computer for a week now. My wallpaper is the dark gray wallpaper by default since I don't want to confuse icons with wallpaper elements.

I have left the screen on for 2 hours straight... playing iTunes over a Labor Day home party plus another 6 hours during my Mom's birthday on September 4th.

Absolutely ZERO image retention.

Plus side-by-side comparison with my old 15" Pro (Samsung screen) is night and day. Higher contrast, deeper black, colors pop out more... it's simply amazing. Many friends asked over the last few days if the screen was a Samsung screen.

So I think there are definitely LG screens out there that are perfect.

Good to hear. Do you know what week yours is?
 
Good to hear. Do you know what week yours is?

I posted this last page:
Week 7 (February) or week 34 (August)

Being that I bought the computer in August, I think it's February... unless I snagged the machine right when it got off the assembly line...
 
I have an LG screen but I'm not dead set on trying to reproduce the issue. So far I have a bit of retention but it goes away after a minute. I'm going to go enjoy my laptop.
 
I have an LG screen but I'm not dead set on trying to reproduce the issue. So far I have a bit of retention but it goes away after a minute. I'm going to go enjoy my laptop.

Please keep us posted. I ended up returning my system (Samsung LCD) due to other reasons.
 
Please keep us posted. I ended up returning my system (Samsung LCD) due to other reasons.

So far it's really good. I had to download BF3 on Origin in Windows. The Origin program was left on the screen for 3 hours and when I minimized the window, I saw absolutely no retention.
 
LG screen and its better than SAMSUNG

I have an LG screen and its brightness is better than the SAMSUNG display. i dont know why everyone is soo scared of the LG displays , they have better Black levels and more realistic colour unlike the samsung which looks much more vivid (non true to image ) and to be honest there are less people with samsung displays out there but they have lots of problems with those too ( dead pixels are on top of the list with backlight bleeding case too ) people have returned 2-3 samsung displays for these reasons too. i would rather have unvisible IR that i cannot see unless i do a 20MIN test with a special wallpaper than a samsung that may give me worse black levels and dead pixels during first 2 months. dont forget the samsung problems occur after the 14 days too so even tho you may think your screen is perfect BAM you get dead pixels ( BTW apple will not replace the display let alone the whole unit, unless you have 4 dead pixels so if you have 2 or 3 in the centre of the screen after 3 weeks of use your ****** out of luck.
enjoy your device all laptops have these kind of issues its not worth spending 1-2 months replacing them for not being 100% perfect. if your not happy get a refund and buy the next gen retina in a few months time but do not keep searching for the perfect one as it will be a waste of time for you and apple. i dont mind very very very slightly visible IR so loving my LG display.
What do i think of the LG display is it a cheap display ? No it is better than the samsung display overall and this is noted by lots of people including samsung display owners, i did a side by side at the apple store and the LG looks more realistic but the samsung looks more stunning (for me too vivid )
 
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