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The battery life is the only reason why I initially upgraded from the 6 to the 6s Plus. I wonder how the battery life of the X really will be compared to the 8 Plus.
It is listed as the X being 1 hour less in internet browsing 1 Hour less in Video playback and the same in talk time and audio playback. I'm not worried about it at all.
 
It is listed as the X being 1 hour less in internet browsing 1 Hour less in Video playback and the same in talk time and audio playback. I'm not worried about it at all.

I'm not to worried about it, either. However, I take a lot of photos and videos when I travel, and that's where battery life becomes critical. I may have to invest in a battery case for those situations.
 
I was going to get an X, but caved for an 8 Plus for a few reasons:
  1. $799 is already a hefty price tag for a smartphone, but $999 is ridiculous. The technology in the X will become mainstream next year at a more reasonable price point.
  2. There are confirmations of continued production issues. I'd be shocked if most pre-orders are honored prior to 12/31/17. At that point, we're almost halfway to the next iPhone launch. Is this the 2017 or 2018 iPhone?
  3. The X has no real improvements over the 8+, with the exception of slightly "larger"/improved screen. I phrase it that way, because the screen isn't as wide as the Plus, and the area to the left and right of the notch isn't truly useable (see image below). Sure, higher PPI and contrast ratio, but it's not worth a $200 premium in my book. I don't consider facial recognition (or "Animoji") an improvement over Touch ID, but maybe with time it will mature and earn my buy-in.
  4. X has inferior battery life to 8 Plus
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So I would need to pay $200 more to wait until early 2018 for a phone with inferior battery life but the same/smaller screen size, with the same internal hardware as the 8 Plus.

Similar to the first iPhone, the X is the guinea pig product. It's overpriced, and somewhat without a refined direction. I'm already ready for the X "S" or successor (and with a plus model), but until we have some quality reviews of this new product, I'm not ready to wait months on end to shell out $1,000+ on this device.

Maybe once demand dies down, Apple will cut the price like they did for the original iPhone, and I'll try it then. For now, looking forward to using my 8 Plus.

1. This is the case for all new technology it will always get cheaper later.

2. I'm sure there will be inventory issues but that is the case with every iPhone of late minus the 8 because people are waiting for the X. I fully expect that I will have my X in the first week of release.

3. You state that it has no real improvements but in reality what you mean is that the improvements don't add value for you. I consider Face ID an upgrade, I consider a larger HDR oled screen a large improvement, I consider the dual-optical image stabilization to be a really nice upgrade, I consider the front facing camera including portrait mode on the X a very nice upgrade. I consider all of those things in a much smaller form factor to be a huge improvement well worth the extra 200. So your preferences don't determine if there are "real improvements" or not.

4. 1 Hour less in internet use and 1 hour less in video playback is probably going to be negligible in real world use, but yes the Plus model will always have the best battery life. That is one of the benefits of having such a large form factor to stuff more battery in.
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I'm not to worried about it, either. However, I take a lot of photos and videos when I travel, and that's where battery life becomes critical. I may have to invest in a battery case for those situations.
I am planning on getting one of the portable wireless charging pads so that I don't have to add wires to my desk setup at home, but it will come in equally useful for when I'm out and going to be somewhere long enough to set it down and let it charge.
 
Nope, tired of the same design for a 4th year in a row, ready for something new and fresh.
 
Why waste money on the X when the a majority can’t own it a full year. The X 2 will be out so it only has a 9 month lifespan. Bit much for 1 grand.
What a incredibly silly and ignorant comment.

"Majority cant own it a full year"

Hmm.

Does the phone suddenly disable when the next iPhone comes out? No. Nothings stopping you from owning it a "full year" or even several years.

YOU as the consumer dont want to own it a full year, many are happy and content with keeping their phones for 2 years and more in some cases.

Nobody forces you to change your phone when the new one comes out.
 
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I'm still getting the 10. I look forward to the madness that is the end of October/beginning of November. I still don't think the wait will be nearly as long as some are claiming. Like I've said before, the gold 5S, 6 Plus, Jet Black iPhone 7...all phones that had the production horror stories. And I still got them all on or around launch day. And around 2 months after the initial launch, stock was pretty much available for all of those phones
For the Jet Black 7 Plus my delivery was originally November but I lucked into some store stock in October. Of course, I ordered mine after sunrise on pre-order day but if you stay on top of the stock level trackers you can usually find one.
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Why waste money on the X when the a majority can’t own it a full year. The X 2 will be out so it only has a 9 month lifespan. Bit much for 1 grand.
Because of Jony Ive's super awesome deluxe Jet Black finish I wasn't able to get my 7 Plus last year until mid-October. Thanks to this year's super awesome deluxe OLED panel (Love you Samsung!) I'll be ordering right at one year. Thanks Tim and Jony! I just know those guys are looking out for me :)

I'm pretty much sold on the X but I want to hold it in my hand first. I have big hands and love the size of the 7 Plus but the X is much slimmer across so I'd like to see how that feels in my hand. Apple hasn't yet done a sort of one-off phone model since the 1st gen but recently they did just that with the iPad Pro 9.7". They seemed perfectly content to design and manufacture a device for one generation. I'm wondering if this version of the X is a one-off and next year all that tech is packed into the 8's form factor (2018 Xv2 and Xv2 Plus). Not that would necessarily stop me from purchase but it just has that feeling about. They know serve up an OS for 3 different form factors and that's a bit unusual.
 
I'm getting the X because it's new and because it's a "beta device". If it wasn't for the X I would have kept my 7 for another year. At this point I can justify the price of the X but not the 8 and 8+. So, no regrets here.
 
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Lol "so many issues".

& already a regrets thread.

Gees, let people make their choice & enjoy their new phone (which they haven't even experienced your perceived "issues" & won't for at least a month, if they even exist) fcol.

Negative Nancies on a rampage here....
You’ve been the only negative Nancy on this thread....
 
That’s because we’re stuck with a 2014 chassis with huge bezels. The iPhone 8 is the 4th iteration of the iPhone 6... even the iPhone 5 hasn’t been rehashed as much as this. I don’t agree with the price considering the distinct lack of innovation. Rather than paying £699 the price should be inline with the 6S when it was first released. I won’t be buying the X at £999 so I’m looking at this, but as a 6S owner it’s a really hard sell.

if you really look at it, the iphone x also follows the same design principles as the 6, they just switched from aluminium to stainless steel.
 
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The battery life is the only reason why I initially upgraded from the 6 to the 6s Plus. I wonder how the battery life of the X really will be compared to the 8 Plus.

It was definitely a proponent for me as well, when going from 6S to 7 Plus. Apple's website says the X will be better than the 8, but worse than the 8 Plus (which is the same as the 7 Plus). I have no interest in downgrading battery life.

1. This is the case for all new technology it will always get cheaper later. I have no problem paying the same amount for a phone each year, but Apple has been inching up the entry level iPhone device every 4-5 years by $50. An entry level 8 retails for $699 vs. the original iPhone at $599. I'm not comfortable paying almost double the price of the first iPhone. It's also more of a value proposition. If the X had the same true screen size, as good battery life, and no other compromises from "upgrading" from the 8 Plus, I could perhaps justify the $200 price increase. Unfortunately, that's not the case. We're on the same page that the technology in the X will become mainstream and therefore more affordable in the future.

2. I'm sure there will be inventory issues but that is the case with every iPhone of late minus the 8 because people are waiting for the X. I fully expect that I will have my X in the first week of release. What you expect has no correlation to reality. There are always inventory issues each year with the launch of the iPhone, however this year there are documented shortages that fall into the worst-case scenario bucket. Let's not forget some customers that ordered immediately at launch last year were still met with 3-4 week delays, for a phone that was virtually the same as it's 2 predecessors. It's so bad for the X this year, they pushed the release date by more than a month, and recent news shows they still haven't started production.

3. You state that it has no real improvements but in reality what you mean is that the improvements don't add value for you. I consider Face ID an upgrade, I consider a larger HDR oled screen a large improvement, I consider the dual-optical image stabilization to be a really nice upgrade, I consider the front facing camera including portrait mode on the X a very nice upgrade. I consider all of those things in a much smaller form factor to be a huge improvement well worth the extra 200. So your preferences don't determine if there are "real improvements" or not. I don't care about selfies, so the front-facing camera portrait mode is of no value, whereas battery life is important to me. I've never had OIS issues on my 7 Plus, so dual-OIS isn't a value-add for me, because it's fixing a problem I've never had. I agree completely, that each consumer will determine what is and isn't of value to them. I'd rather put the saved $200 into buying an Apple Watch for my significant other. Again, if there were no compromises, I could live with the changes (no Touch ID, but Face ID, etc.)

4. 1 Hour less in internet use and 1 hour less in video playback is probably going to be negligible in real world use, but yes the Plus model will always have the best battery life. That is one of the benefits of having such a large form factor to stuff more battery in. The most common uses for smartphones isn't talk time, but internet and app usage. The iPhone X is in the exact same league as the 7 and 8 (non-Plus models) with respect to this battery life. Maybe it's not material to you, but 1 hour is a big deal to me. Anyone with a Plus knows battery life is a night-and-day upgrade from the non-Plus model in real-world usage.
 
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It was definitely a proponent for me as well, when going from 6S to 7 Plus. Apple's website says the X will be better than the 8, but worse than the 8 Plus (which is the same as the 7 Plus). I have no interest in downgrading battery life.

For years people complain about battery life. Now Apple releases their flagship device with less battery life and I hear crickets. Very odd lol
 
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It was definitely a proponent for me as well, when going from 6S to 7 Plus. Apple's website says the X will be better than the 8, but worse than the 8 Plus (which is the same as the 7 Plus). I have no interest in downgrading battery life.

Battery life is absolutely critical to me. At this point, I'll have to reserve my judgment for when I actually receive the X and have a few days to use it.
 
Regret? The X ain’t out yet, most folks won’t be able to regret until they hold both phones on their hands.
 
That’s because we’re stuck with a 2014 chassis with huge bezels. The iPhone 8 is the 4th iteration of the iPhone 6... even the iPhone 5 hasn’t been rehashed as much as this. I don’t agree with the price considering the distinct lack of innovation. Rather than paying £699 the price should be inline with the 6S when it was first released. I won’t be buying the X at £999 so I’m looking at this, but as a 6S owner it’s a really hard sell.
Honestly, the chassis may share some form with the 6/6s but everything else is next level. It is in no way the same phone. On the other hand, Apple is next level in it's continued support of a 2014 device right up to and including ARKit.

When I sold Apple products there seemed to be two kinds of owners. Those that wanted the latest and greatest every year or two and those that held on to their devices forever. They would come in for simple upgrades now and then. Now you probably fall into that last category and that's cool because Apple makes products that last. They truly are a good investment. I'm commenting from my 2012 Mac mini that boots up in 10 seconds on the cute little Samsung HD I plopped in it.

Really, though, I don't ever remember anyone not upgrading their six year old iMac because the newest one still looked like the old one and "lacked innovation."

At this point I consider the iPhone 8 an worthy upgrade even from my 7 Plus because of the camera alone to say nothing of the other features.
 
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By the time you get the X it will be old tech too.

Eh, not really. By the time the X is out, no matter when that date comes, the 8/8+ becomes the default "last years model."

No two ways around it really. The 8 is already old. The day it was announced it was already a legacy product.
 
Eh, not really. By the time the X is out, no matter when that date comes, the 8/8+ becomes the default "last years model."

No two ways around it really. The 8 is already old. The day it was announced it was already a legacy product.


I agree X will be newest in the iPhone line when it launches. But comparing who’s newer for iPhones is really meaningless, because there’s a new model every year.
 
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I agree X will be newest in the iPhone line when it launches. But comparing who’s newer for iPhones is really meaningless, because there’s a new model every year.

Agreed. At some point, everyone has to stop waiting and jump in. Sure you can tell yourself you can wait till next year, but you really have to ask yourself... is it really worth waiting a whole year? Life is short, if you want something and it is within your means... get it. Don't torture yourself.
 
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People are treating this like cars or other big ticket items. It’s a $1k or less electronic device. A significant percentage of users are on some type of installment plans that allow them to upgrade to the latest and greatest down the road anyway. So comparing or debating whether to get the 8 or X is pointless. It’s not an either or choice. I just got a 8+ via T-Mobile EIP with Jump option, and I will definitely try preorder an X comes 10/27.
 
People are treating this like cars or other big ticket items. It’s a $1k or less electronic device. A significant percentage of users are on some type of installment plans that allow them to upgrade to the latest and greatest down the road anyway. So comparing or debating whether to get the 8 or X is pointless. It’s not an either or choice. I just got a 8+ via T-Mobile EIP with Jump option, and I will definitely try preorder an X comes 10/27.

I consider a laptop a substantial purchase. The mention of $1k I think already puts it up there on major purchase, even though it is nothing compared to a car... it is still up there as your more likely to refresh your laptop than your car. (maybe?)

T-Mobile's jump option is really nice if you can deal with paying in monthly installments. I think it might actually qualify you for an upgrade to the successor of the X too when it comes next year if you trade in the X you will have at that time.
 
No. I have zero interest in an 8 given the existence of the X.

Currently I only iPhone 7 Plus, if the iPhone X had not launched this year, I don't think I would have even upgraded the iPhone 8. I don't see enough of a reason to abandon my iPhone 7 Plus to an iPhone 8+, even given the wireless charging, Tru-Tone, increased stereo speaker volume, Portrait lighting, etc. It's just desirable enough for me to want to upgrade to the same form factor.

But I think that iPhone X and face ID looks very promising to me.
 
Currently I only iPhone 7 Plus, if the iPhone X had not launched this year, I don't think I would have even upgraded the iPhone 8. I don't see enough of a reason to abandon my iPhone 7 Plus to an iPhone 8+, even given the wireless charging, Tru-Tone, increased stereo speaker volume, Portrait lighting, etc. It's just desirable enough for me to want to upgrade to the same form factor.

But I think that iPhone X and face ID looks very promising to me.
Except the X is a bit of a gamble with the screen size for plus users.
 
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