Any “X” people regret not ordering the 8?

[iTom17]

While I have no doubt that I'm gonna be incredibly jealous of those who will eventually get their iPhone X, I'm happy that I went for the iPhone 8 Plus. I'll wait this one out, to make sure any potential problems with the iPhone X are fixed with the next version.

 

[Nozuka]

Not worried about battery life. My 7 is at 50% or more at the end of the day. Alot of my usage is music streaming and just quick glances at messages or answering them. iOS barely uses any battery in standby.

Since the battery is much bigger on the X, my battery life should be much better.

8 was never an option, it's too close to the 7.

also not worried about getting an X, because i already had one reserved like 5min after the keynote.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Why would we regret it when the 8 series is readily available to buy anytime we should change our minds?

 

[akash.nu]

I was going to get an X, but caved for an 8 Plus for a few reasons:

1. $799 is already a hefty price tag for a smartphone, but $999 is ridiculous. The technology in the X will become mainstream next year at a more reasonable price point.
2. There are confirmations of continued production issues. I'd be shocked if most pre-orders are honored prior to 12/31/17. At that point, we're almost halfway to the next iPhone launch. Is this the 2017 or 2018 iPhone?
3. The X has no real improvements over the 8+, with the exception of slightly "larger"/improved screen. I phrase it that way, because the screen isn't as wide as the Plus, and the area to the left and right of the notch isn't truly useable (see image below). Sure, higher PPI and contrast ratio, but it's not worth a $200 premium in my book. I don't consider facial recognition (or "Animoji") an improvement over Touch ID, but maybe with time it will mature and earn my buy-in.
4. X has inferior battery life to 8 Plus

So I would need to pay $200 more to wait until early 2018 for a phone with inferior battery life but the same/smaller screen size, with the same internal hardware as the 8 Plus.

Similar to the first iPhone, the X is the guinea pig product. It's overpriced, and somewhat without a refined direction. I'm already ready for the X "S" or successor (and with a plus model), but until we have some quality reviews of this new product, I'm not ready to wait months on end to shell out $1,000+ on this device.

Maybe once demand dies down, Apple will cut the price like they did for the original iPhone, and I'll try it then. For now, looking forward to using my 8 Plus.

This is exactly why I got myself a plus.

 

[justint1989]

That’s because we’re stuck with a 2014 chassis with huge bezels. The iPhone 8 is the 4th iteration of the iPhone 6... even the iPhone 5 hasn’t been rehashed as much as this. I don’t agree with the price considering the distinct lack of innovation. Rather than paying £699 the price should be inline with the 6S when it was first released. I won’t be buying the X at £999 so I’m looking at this, but as a 6S owner it’s a really hard sell.

Last I checked the 5 was “rehashed” 3 Times.
Original 5, 5S and SE. The 6 design has only lived on one more model than that so far. I personally don’t mind the 6/6S/7/8 design.

 

[Geert76]

I was going to get an X, but caved for an 8 Plus for a few reasons:

1. $799 is already a hefty price tag for a smartphone, but $999 is ridiculous. The technology in the X will become mainstream next year at a more reasonable price point.
2. There are confirmations of continued production issues. I'd be shocked if most pre-orders are honored prior to 12/31/17. At that point, we're almost halfway to the next iPhone launch. Is this the 2017 or 2018 iPhone?
3. The X has no real improvements over the 8+, with the exception of slightly "larger"/improved screen. I phrase it that way, because the screen isn't as wide as the Plus, and the area to the left and right of the notch isn't truly useable (see image below). Sure, higher PPI and contrast ratio, but it's not worth a $200 premium in my book. I don't consider facial recognition (or "Animoji") an improvement over Touch ID, but maybe with time it will mature and earn my buy-in.
4. X has inferior battery life to 8 Plus

So I would need to pay $200 more to wait until early 2018 for a phone with inferior battery life but the same/smaller screen size, with the same internal hardware as the 8 Plus.

Similar to the first iPhone, the X is the guinea pig product. It's overpriced, and somewhat without a refined direction. I'm already ready for the X "S" or successor (and with a plus model), but until we have some quality reviews of this new product, I'm not ready to wait months on end to shell out $1,000+ on this device.

Maybe once demand dies down, Apple will cut the price like they did for the original iPhone, and I'll try it then. For now, looking forward to using my 8 Plus.

nice and well written sum up!

thanks

 

[DennisdeWit]

It is. But it doesn't affect me in the sense as it does for others. I'm wiling to accept the trade off at this point.

I am in the same boat. I have a 7 Plus now. I love the X and am willing to take the smaller screen for granted. Who knows, maybe next year there will be an iPhone X Plus with a 6.2 inch screen as rumored. Would be nice.

 

[akash.nu]

What a incredibly silly and ignorant comment.

"Majority cant own it a full year"

Hmm.

Does the phone suddenly disable when the next iPhone comes out? No. Nothings stopping you from owning it a "full year" or even several years.

YOU as the consumer dont want to own it a full year, many are happy and content with keeping their phones for 2 years and more in some cases.

Nobody forces you to change your phone when the new one comes out.

Completely agree with you here. Since the 6S days the necessity of upgrading every year is not evident anymore. Heck I used my 6 until now. Got the 8+ this time around simply to try out the bigger form factor and too much reliant on Touch ID. The X has too many new tech for my comfort. Now planning to keep this phone for at least the next 3 years. By then face recognition would evolve even more and possibly Touch ID will be under the screen. So next upgrade for me will be solid.

 

[LOVIN SOUL GLO]

Just curious. So many issues with the x. Could be next year before preorder customers get their X.

Please describe the issues you have encountered when using the phone?

 

[The Game 161]

Why would we regret it when the 8 series is readily available to buy anytime we should change our minds?

Lol exactly

This thread makes no sense at all.

 

[Newjackboy]

What a incredibly silly and ignorant comment.

"Majority cant own it a full year"

Hmm.

Does the phone suddenly disable when the next iPhone comes out? No. Nothings stopping you from owning it a "full year" or even several years.

YOU as the consumer dont want to own it a full year, many are happy and content with keeping their phones for 2 years and more in some cases.

Nobody forces you to change your phone when the new one comes out.

No, that is a legitimate comment.

The majority of people clamouring to get the X upon release - are by and large, the same group will want want the "X2" next September. That definitely means you only have the phone for c 9 months...

Yeah, nothing is disabled on the phone when the next comes out - but would u like an "X2" to come out in April 2018???

 

[boltjames]

No, that is a legitimate comment.

The majority of people clamouring to get the X upon release - are by and large, the same group will want want the "X2" next September. That definitely means you only have the phone for c 9 months...

Yeah, nothing is disabled on the phone when the next comes out - but would u like an "X2" to come out in April 2018???

Everyone is forgetting the iPhone 9 which will be the only new iPhone released a year from now as the iPhone X will still be in short supply and high demand by then.

The "9" being unused allows the 10 to still be relevant in the line as a new/current model a year from now to the average consumer. The 9 will be the 8 with Face ID and the notch. The X will then be considered the larger Plus of the line and that's the end of that.

 

[joeblow7777]

No, that is a legitimate comment.

The majority of people clamouring to get the X upon release - are by and large, the same group will want want the "X2" next September. That definitely means you only have the phone for c 9 months...

Yeah, nothing is disabled on the phone when the next comes out - but would u like an "X2" to come out in April 2018???

I don’t think that’s true at all, just another example of skewed forum perspective. The majority of people who are willing to drop over $1000 on an X are definitely not planning to buy another phone in a year or less. Most people in general do not upgrade their phone every year, which is why so many are looking to replace a 6 or 6+ this year.

 

[boltjames]

I don’t think that’s true at all, just another example of skewed forum perspective. The majority of people who are willing to drop over $1000 on an X are definitely not planning to buy another phone in a year or less. Most people in general do not upgrade their phone every year, which is why so many are looking to replace a 6 or 6+ this year.

Lack of innovation plus lack of carrier subsidies killed the 'get a new iphone' thirst back in 2015. These things aren't exciting anymore and they cost real money now.

And if one steps back and looks at it objectively, the X is merely a taller 8 with some hokey facial recognition that isn't superior to what we use now. This reminds me of MagSafe years ago with all my delusional Mac friends telling me how cool a feature it was as if that was the compelling reason to buy a new MacBook. A magnet on a power cord? LOL. Face ID is the same snake oil. Who exactly gets excited about a security feature?

 

[DNichter]

Haha so funny that everyone needs to justify their buying decision to the masses. It's a phone, buy the one you like and move on. Lots of people like the X, it's new features, and cost isn't a factor. A lot of people prefer the 8 because of price and its tried and true form factor. There is no wrong choice because it is a personal decision.

 

[Newjackboy]

. The majority of people who are willing to drop over $1000 on an X are definitely not planning to buy another phone in a year or less.

sorry - in the real world - it's the opposite!
Especially the ones who will order the X on Day 1. There are millions of people around the world who want the latest and greatest from Apple and will buy whenever and whatever is released (and are not affected by the price charged)

 

[joeblow7777]

Lack of innovation plus lack of carrier subsidies killed the 'get a new iphone' thirst back in 2015. These things aren't exciting anymore and they cost real money now.

And if one steps back and looks at it objectively, the X is merely a taller 8 with some hokey facial recognition that isn't superior to what we use now. This reminds me of MagSafe years ago with all my delusional Mac friends telling me how cool a feature it was as if that was the compelling reason to buy a new MacBook. A magnet on a power cord? LOL. Face ID is the same snake oil. Who exactly gets excited about a security feature?

I don’t know that many people are buying the X for FaceID. Personally I see it as a point against it compared to TouchID which I have found to be fantastic. The main selling point of the X is the display. Some want it because it’s OLED, but I think most are attracted to the larger display in a smaller form factor.

 

[Newjackboy]

Everyone is forgetting the iPhone 9 which will be the only new iPhone released a year from now as the iPhone X will still be in short supply and high demand by then.

The "9" being unused allows the 10 to still be relevant in the line as a new/current model a year from now to the average consumer. The 9 will be the 8 with Face ID and the notch. The X will then be considered the larger Plus of the line and that's the end of that.

The iPhone is apple's bread and butter. A new flagship has to come out each year...

No one knows what will happen next year - but 100% there is a new flagship coming to replace the current X flagship

 

[joeblow7777]

sorry - in the real world - it's the opposite!
Especially the ones who will order the X on Day 1. There are millions of people around the world who want the latest and greatest from Apple and will buy whenever and whatever is released (and are not affected by the price charged)

Not the majority. Data shows this. The majority of people who buy a new phone are never people coming from the previous generation. Yes, many people will always want the latest in greatest, but in the real world, most people don’t care that much. They just want something for texting, instagram, and selfies.

 

[boltjames]

I don’t know that many people are buying the X for FaceID. Personally I see it as a point against it compared to TouchID which I have found to be fantastic. The main selling point of the X is the display. Some want it because it’s OLED, but I think most are attracted to the larger display in a smaller form factor.

Agreed, and that's actually my point. Apple has a history of making up features no one needs or wants that have limited appeal and Apple fanboys have a history of using these faux features as a way to justify what's really going on- they just want the newest and most expensive thing so as to impress others.

The increase in visible resolution at that screen size is marginal at best, and the display isn't 'larger' despite what the metrics say. It's virtually the same width as the 6, just taller. Ask yourself when was the last time you needed extra height in a display and the answer is probably 'never'. Width is good, width means larger font size, width means larger buttons and controls, width means larger viewing area for photos, and so on. But height? That's not useful, especially with the bunny ears on the notch only creating the illusion of such a big screen.

People want the X because they want the most expensive iPhone experience. That's cool, I vibe on my Rolex collection and my BMW's, but the X is just an 8 with a less convenient security feature. It's snake oil.

 

[djvidi]

Haha so funny that everyone needs to justify their buying decision to the masses. It's a phone, buy the one you like and move on. Lots of people like the X, it's new features, and cost isn't a factor. A lot of people prefer the 8 because of price and its tried and true form factor. There is no wrong choice because it is a personal decision.

Couldn’t agree more. As long as it works and your are happy who cares what someone else thinks.

 

[AlphaGuitarist]

If there was no X this year, I would have upgraded to the 8 Plus. However, with the X preorders less than 5 weeks out, the 8 Plus is not even up for consideration.

 

[akash.nu]

I’d really like to know the sales figures for the 8 and 8 plus.

 

[Damon2]

No, that is a legitimate comment.

The majority of people clamouring to get the X upon release - are by and large, the same group will want want the "X2" next September. That definitely means you only have the phone for c 9 months...

Yeah, nothing is disabled on the phone when the next comes out - but would u like an "X2" to come out in April 2018???

Legitimate how?

Like you said "Want".

The X will be perfectly usable in a years time.

How is the post I quoted a legitimate comment lol
"Majority cant own it a full year"? A new iphone coming out does not suddenly stop your iphone from working as I've said..If you want to own a phone for a year you can, just like if you want to change phones at the next iphone release you can also.

I have had my iPhone 7 for nearly a year now - why suddenly with the iPhone X cant people own their device for a full year?

Outside of the fact that they want a new device, when majority devices will be perfectly fine to use after a year.

 

[Complex757]

No, because you can pretty much go to your local Apple Store and get a 8 or 8+throughout the country.

At this point the way it's looking with the X I'm almost to the point of forget it altogether. I can just wait, especially if I'm waiting until the winter or spring for one.

If you're on a plan or even buying it outright you would be sort of screwed if the next version came out in September.