and, calling users here "idiots" should get this douche a ban from here...
What... pressing 2 keys simultaneously is more efficient than pressing a single key? What is Apple so afraid of that we must be protected from accidentally pressing the dreaded ENTER key all by its self? I'm beginning to think all this forced mouse usage is their strategy for making their keyboards last longer.
yeah, I guess so..
its really rude to call people you never met or talked to "idiots", and this forum is definitely not a place where "idiots" gravitate to...
Exactly. The sense of entitlement people have here is nuts. "$30 for Snow Leopard? Bah humbug!!" My god, shut up. Its cheap, its helping move OS X into the future and giving devs more powerful tools to create better applications, and did I mention you have the CHOICE TO NOT BUY IT?! My god.
And what is with the blatant Windows fanboyism on these Mac forums? Windows 7 is Windows Vista with some improvements, UI tweaks, and a $200 price tag for an UPGRADE from Vista. How do you like them apples?
32Bit works great. I'm going to reboot into 64bit kernel via holding down 6 and 4 and report back
EDIT: Booted in. Safari, Mail , iChat , Quicktime X, iCal, Preview booted in 1 bounce. iTunes booted in 2 bounces. Woah
Later I'll post a video demonstrating it.
what hardware are you on?
also, your 64 bit measurements mean nothing without 32 bit measurements.![]()
thank you someone who understands haha![]()
Ok.. I;ve been running Snow Leopard for about a week now and here is my 2 cents.
I, like the OP, think it's a bit overrated. It doesn't suck, as I have noticed a few improvements. However, IMHO, this should have been a "service pack" free update. It's a far cry from a new OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the upgrade, but if it wasn't going to sell for $29 I definitely wouldn't buy it. Matter of fact, $29 seems like a bit much to pay for this 'upgrade'. $10 is fair!
$50 for a single licence is great.Ok.. I;ve been running Snow Leopard for about a week now and here is my 2 cents.
I, like the OP, think it's a bit overrated. It doesn't suck, as I have noticed a few improvements. However, IMHO, this should have been a "service pack" free update. It's a far cry from a new OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the upgrade, but if it wasn't going to sell for $29 I definitely wouldn't buy it. Matter of fact, $29 seems like a bit much to pay for this 'upgrade'. $10 is fair!
Ok.. I;ve been running Snow Leopard for about a week now and here is my 2 cents.
I, like the OP, think it's a bit overrated. It doesn't suck, as I have noticed a few improvements. However, IMHO, this should have been a "service pack" free update. It's a far cry from a new OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the upgrade, but if it wasn't going to sell for $29 I definitely wouldn't buy it. Matter of fact, $29 seems like a bit much to pay for this 'upgrade'. $10 is fair!
$10? Are you serious? As a programmer, I am laughing at your assessment of the work that goes into a project like this. Do you really think Vista Ultimate to Win 7 Ultimate is worth $200?
well, to be fair, the price should reflect value to the consumer, not the cost to the producer. To many people, the few visible changes in snow leopard aren't worth $30. Personally, just for the finder icon stuff, and the bug fixes, I'd probably pay the $30. Others will find value in other features. But many won't. Over time, when 3rd party developers (and Apple with its Pro apps) supports the new OS by taking advantage of parallelism, etc., the value proposition will go up. But, for the moment, it might very well be worth $10 or less to a lot of leopard users.
I do agree with you there. Out of the gates it may seem like its not worth $30 to some (but I already pre ordered mine). And you continue to hit the nail on the head when you say as devs start taking advantage of its features, more will adopt it. Both are very accurate statements in my opinion, however I bet many Mac users buy it just to keep updated with the latest software from Apple.
Good - then let's move on to the REAL issue... What's the next cat's name?
To be "overrated" someone must certainly be rating it highly? Hyping it? Saying extraordinary and exaggerated things about it?
Where's that happening?
Wel the 32bit versions of Safari, Mail , iChat , Quicktime X, iCal, Preview boots in 3.5 Bounces and iTunes takes about 6. I'm running on a MacBook Pro 4,1 17" Base Config: 2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB 667MHz, 512MB 8600M GT Graphics, 250GB 5400RPM. Later I'll make a video of the 64 bit and 32 bit.
Edit I'm editing them to it side by side
Ive read most of the pages to this thread, and i dont think anyones said this.
If I'm in a company, and i hear snow leopard features full MS Exchange support and all the 'under-the-hood' improvements for $30 , i would jump on that offer instantly.
Here are the speed benchmarks. It's first 64bit then 32bit then side by side
Its a metaphor, he's saying it's in all of us. Follow your heart and you will find the truth.Where?
well, to be fair, the price should reflect value to the consumer, not the cost to the producer. To many people, the few visible changes in snow leopard aren't worth $30. Personally, just for the finder icon stuff, and the bug fixes, I'd probably pay the $30. Others will find value in other features. But many won't. Over time, when 3rd party developers (and Apple with its Pro apps) supports the new OS by taking advantage of parallelism, etc., the value proposition will go up. But, for the moment, it might very well be worth $10 or less to a lot of leopard users.