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yeah, I guess so..

its really rude to call people you never met or talked to "idiots", and this forum is definitely not a place where "idiots" gravitate to...
 
What... pressing 2 keys simultaneously is more efficient than pressing a single key? What is Apple so afraid of that we must be protected from accidentally pressing the dreaded ENTER key all by its self? I'm beginning to think all this forced mouse usage is their strategy for making their keyboards last longer.

Well, the "Mighty" Mouse lasts a fortnight if you're lucky.
You spend, say, $2000 on a new Mac. By the time you're
done with it, you've spent another $2000 on Mighty Mice :)
 
32Bit works great. I'm going to reboot into 64bit kernel via holding down 6 and 4 and report back :)

EDIT: Booted in. Safari, Mail , iChat , Quicktime X, iCal, Preview booted in 1 bounce. iTunes booted in 2 bounces. Woah

Later I'll post a video demonstrating it.
 
Exactly. The sense of entitlement people have here is nuts. "$30 for Snow Leopard? Bah humbug!!" My god, shut up. Its cheap, its helping move OS X into the future and giving devs more powerful tools to create better applications, and did I mention you have the CHOICE TO NOT BUY IT?! My god.

And what is with the blatant Windows fanboyism on these Mac forums? Windows 7 is Windows Vista with some improvements, UI tweaks, and a $200 price tag for an UPGRADE from Vista. How do you like them apples?

thank you someone who understands haha:D
 
32Bit works great. I'm going to reboot into 64bit kernel via holding down 6 and 4 and report back :)

EDIT: Booted in. Safari, Mail , iChat , Quicktime X, iCal, Preview booted in 1 bounce. iTunes booted in 2 bounces. Woah

Later I'll post a video demonstrating it.

what hardware are you on?

also, your 64 bit measurements mean nothing without 32 bit measurements. :rolleyes:
 
what hardware are you on?

also, your 64 bit measurements mean nothing without 32 bit measurements. :rolleyes:

Wel the 32bit versions of Safari, Mail , iChat , Quicktime X, iCal, Preview boots in 3.5 Bounces and iTunes takes about 6. I'm running on a MacBook Pro 4,1 17" Base Config: 2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB 667MHz, 512MB 8600M GT Graphics, 250GB 5400RPM. Later I'll make a video of the 64 bit and 32 bit.

Edit I'm editing them to it side by side
 
thank you someone who understands haha:D

i get that feeling too.. its becoming all a lil bit silly.. dont like the upgrades of SL.. then for frikks sake dont buy it, just keep the humble opinion to yourself. Thus letting the rest of us, enjoy our new OS, which is set out to help the future :)

PTP
 
Ok.. I;ve been running Snow Leopard for about a week now and here is my 2 cents.

I, like the OP, think it's a bit overrated. It doesn't suck, as I have noticed a few improvements. However, IMHO, this should have been a "service pack" free update. It's a far cry from a new OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the upgrade, but if it wasn't going to sell for $29 I definitely wouldn't buy it. Matter of fact, $29 seems like a bit much to pay for this 'upgrade'. $10 is fair!
 
Ok.. I;ve been running Snow Leopard for about a week now and here is my 2 cents.

I, like the OP, think it's a bit overrated. It doesn't suck, as I have noticed a few improvements. However, IMHO, this should have been a "service pack" free update. It's a far cry from a new OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the upgrade, but if it wasn't going to sell for $29 I definitely wouldn't buy it. Matter of fact, $29 seems like a bit much to pay for this 'upgrade'. $10 is fair!

To be "overrated" someone must certainly be rating it highly? Hyping it? Saying extraordinary and exaggerated things about it?

Where's that happening?
 
Ok.. I;ve been running Snow Leopard for about a week now and here is my 2 cents.

I, like the OP, think it's a bit overrated. It doesn't suck, as I have noticed a few improvements. However, IMHO, this should have been a "service pack" free update. It's a far cry from a new OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the upgrade, but if it wasn't going to sell for $29 I definitely wouldn't buy it. Matter of fact, $29 seems like a bit much to pay for this 'upgrade'. $10 is fair!
$50 for a single licence is great.

Look this is the OS Roadmap:

Leopard - Vista

Leopard = innovative with features - Vista innovative with some features
Snow Leopard = Innovate with compatibility and speed, - Windows 7 Fasten up Vista but under a new name. So the OS'es are taking the same path way this way and not to mention Snow Leopard implants some features like Screen recording which windows doesn't have. I know windows has nothing to do with your post but when your going to compare a ultimate all in 1 package for $29 compared to windows 7 upgrade home basic which will set you back $100-$299 for the ultimate
 
Ok.. I;ve been running Snow Leopard for about a week now and here is my 2 cents.

I, like the OP, think it's a bit overrated. It doesn't suck, as I have noticed a few improvements. However, IMHO, this should have been a "service pack" free update. It's a far cry from a new OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the upgrade, but if it wasn't going to sell for $29 I definitely wouldn't buy it. Matter of fact, $29 seems like a bit much to pay for this 'upgrade'. $10 is fair!

$10? Are you serious? As a programmer, I am laughing at your assessment of the work that goes into a project like this. Do you really think Vista Ultimate to Win 7 Ultimate is worth $200?
 
$10? Are you serious? As a programmer, I am laughing at your assessment of the work that goes into a project like this. Do you really think Vista Ultimate to Win 7 Ultimate is worth $200?


well, to be fair, the price should reflect value to the consumer, not the cost to the producer. To many people, the few visible changes in snow leopard aren't worth $30. Personally, just for the finder icon stuff, and the bug fixes, I'd probably pay the $30. Others will find value in other features. But many won't. Over time, when 3rd party developers (and Apple with its Pro apps) supports the new OS by taking advantage of parallelism, etc., the value proposition will go up. But, for the moment, it might very well be worth $10 or less to a lot of leopard users.
 
well, to be fair, the price should reflect value to the consumer, not the cost to the producer. To many people, the few visible changes in snow leopard aren't worth $30. Personally, just for the finder icon stuff, and the bug fixes, I'd probably pay the $30. Others will find value in other features. But many won't. Over time, when 3rd party developers (and Apple with its Pro apps) supports the new OS by taking advantage of parallelism, etc., the value proposition will go up. But, for the moment, it might very well be worth $10 or less to a lot of leopard users.

I do agree with you there. Out of the gates it may seem like its not worth $30 to some (but I already pre ordered mine :)). And you continue to hit the nail on the head when you say as devs start taking advantage of its features, more will adopt it. Both are very accurate statements in my opinion, however I bet many Mac users buy it just to keep updated with the latest software from Apple.
 
I do agree with you there. Out of the gates it may seem like its not worth $30 to some (but I already pre ordered mine :)). And you continue to hit the nail on the head when you say as devs start taking advantage of its features, more will adopt it. Both are very accurate statements in my opinion, however I bet many Mac users buy it just to keep updated with the latest software from Apple.

Good - then let's move on to the REAL issue... What's the next cat's name?
 
Good - then let's move on to the REAL issue... What's the next cat's name?

OS X Serious Cat - 10.7.

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Wel the 32bit versions of Safari, Mail , iChat , Quicktime X, iCal, Preview boots in 3.5 Bounces and iTunes takes about 6. I'm running on a MacBook Pro 4,1 17" Base Config: 2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB 667MHz, 512MB 8600M GT Graphics, 250GB 5400RPM. Later I'll make a video of the 64 bit and 32 bit.

Edit I'm editing them to it side by side

looking forward to that
 
Ive read most of the pages to this thread, and i dont think anyones said this.

If I'm in a company, and i hear snow leopard features full MS Exchange support and all the 'under-the-hood' improvements for $30 , i would jump on that offer instantly.

Yes, the MS Exchange support alone makes Snow Leopard a must have upgrade for me and my business. Very much looking forward to getting my hands on a copy.
 
well, to be fair, the price should reflect value to the consumer, not the cost to the producer. To many people, the few visible changes in snow leopard aren't worth $30. Personally, just for the finder icon stuff, and the bug fixes, I'd probably pay the $30. Others will find value in other features. But many won't. Over time, when 3rd party developers (and Apple with its Pro apps) supports the new OS by taking advantage of parallelism, etc., the value proposition will go up. But, for the moment, it might very well be worth $10 or less to a lot of leopard users.

Thank you for saying what I've been trying to say all along, but doing a much better job at it. Right now, the changes aren't really worth $29 to me (even though that is a great price), but once the developers start releasing more and more software for the revamped OS, it will make far more sense for me to upgrade my Leopard machine.
 
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