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Have you tried Path Finder? Tabs are great. It makes moving files around easier. No more making another window just to move stuff.

Yes. I LOVE pathfinder. I just don't want finder to be pathfinder. I think Apple made a big mistake making the default file interface non-spatial. It's fine to have something like pathfinder for advanced users, but as someone who works with non-computer experts a lot, I can tell you they have a hard time with even the current finder.
 
Have you tried Path Finder? Tabs are great. It makes moving files around easier. No more making another window just to move stuff.

I've never understood the big deal with making a separate windows, whether in Finder, Safari, or anything else. I actually prefer separate windows to tabs, as you can Exposé them. But why is making another tab so much better than making another window?
 
B) This part is not difficult. If you click once, the whole file is selected. If you click again, the name field gets selected and you can rename..etc. If you copy when the name is selected, you copy the name. If you copy when the file is selected, you copy the file.

C) If textedit does not support embedded files, then dont make anything happen. If its a program that supports embedding of files such as an email application (ie new mail message windows) then do paste the file in the window. Same would go for your FTP application. Basically anything supporting dragging and dropping of files should support what we're talking about here.

I dont really think its that confusing or even inconsistent. I'm sure people were not horrified and confused when they had to drag CDs to the trash to eject it. They just learned thats how it was done. I mean dragging a disk icon (if its CD, or some other mounted media) didnt make sense in old versions of MacOS before the trash icon would change to an eject icon but people still managed to use the computer :)



1) Yes, I am a developer.
2) This is not a "developer" issue. It's a designer issue. It isn't an issue of the code figuring out not to paste a file into a Word document. It is an issue of subjecting the user to such a messed up paradigm. Consider the following situation:

A) I copy text using cmd-C in a textedit document.
B) I copy a file using cmd-C in a finder window (by the way, did I "copy" the file, or did I copy the filename? What if I wanted to copy the filename and not the file?)
C) I hit cmd-V in a textedit document.

What happens? What does the user expect to happen? I'm not worried about the code knowing what to do; I'm worried about subjecting users to an inconsistent paradigm. And just because you understand how it will work doesn't mean the vast majority of computer users will.

Let's change (C). What if I cmd-V into a ftp program? Now what happens?

It's inconsistent and fraught with opportunities for confusion.
 
Yes. I LOVE pathfinder. I just don't want finder to be pathfinder. I think Apple made a big mistake making the default file interface non-spatial. It's fine to have something like pathfinder for advanced users, but as someone who works with non-computer experts a lot, I can tell you they have a hard time with even the current finder.
Agreed. Seems like many people here want Apple to put the Pathfinder devs out of business. Why not buy pathfinder if thats what you want Finder to work like, otherwise use the current finder?

I've never understood the big deal with making a separate windows, whether in Finder, Safari, or anything else. I actually prefer separate windows to tabs, as you can Exposé them. But why is making another tab so much better than making another window?
Tabs make it look like you have less clutter. Also, at first glance you can see everything you have open without using exposé. Having said that, I don't mind opening new finder windows.
 
Agreed. Seems like many people here want Apple to put the Pathfinder devs out of business. Why not buy pathfinder if thats what you want Finder to work like, otherwise use the current finder?

Because as great as Path Finder is, I can't come to use it because there is no way to fully replace it with the Finder, and I find having the two coexisting to be cumbersome. But that was back when PF was at v. 4, maybe it's better now?
 
Multiple reasons it makes no sense. First, in
non-computer life, people used to actually cut and paste things from
documents. You don't "cut" a file out of a folder, you remove it.

You'd be happy if Apple implemented the feature but named
it "remove" rather than "cut"?
 
You either remove an item from the computer (Trash), or you move it to a different location. Cut makes no sense.

So what are we saying here? Apple can't implement this incredibly
useful feature because they can't think of a good name for it? ;-)
 
So what are we saying here? Apple can't implement this incredibly
useful feature because they can't think of a good name for it? ;-)

No. I think Move should exist. I think the name scheme of Cut is stupid. If I ever need to Move, I just bust out my Terminal kung fu.
 
So would you wish that apple rename the 'cut' and 'paste' functions which are already implemented for text? I mean you cant really cut or paste something in a digital environment. Maybe it should be 'remove' and 'put it here' :)

You either remove an item from the computer (Trash), or you move it to a different location. Cut makes no sense.
 
But why is making another tab so much better than making another window?

For the same reason that spacial finders are annoying: You get a bunch of windows all over the place when you need to move stuff to different places. If Apple doesn't do tabs, there should at least be a drop stack, like Path Finder.

And ideally, Expose would work with tabs, especially in Safari (there's an addon that does this.)
 
So you think the Finder is stupid because it doesn't behave like Windows?
Yes I do. Thanks for letting me reiterate that point.

Get over it. You're using a Mac now... not Windows.
Let the fanboy rationale and logic begin.

Just because Apple didn't implement something that Windows has, doesn't mean that they're only doing it because Windows already did it.
That leaves only one answer - they're idiots.

Why doesn't Windows allow you to make a new folder with a keyboard command?
Because windows doesn't have a stupid finder menu hanging around the desktop just in case you're too lazy to use the context menu.
 
I disagree on the second point though. I don't see any reason for Apple to use "Enter" to open items; other than 'Microsoft did it differently so everyone has to copy them'.
What... pressing 2 keys simultaneously is more efficient than pressing a single key? What is Apple so afraid of that we must be protected from accidentally pressing the dreaded ENTER key all by its self? I'm beginning to think all this forced mouse usage is their strategy for making their keyboards last longer.

In icon view, you can't drag and drop a file to it's parent without having two windows open.
Implement cut/paste for files and you wouldn't have to do this any more. :D
 
Yes they are. Rosetta isn't really considered PPC code since its just a software layer. However, thats all intel code. In snow leopard, almost all the programs are 64 bit, so they are either Fat universals or Thin intel only apps.
That is incorrect. QuickTransit (the real name of Rosetta) is x86 code, but all the libraries loaded by a PPC app have to be provided by the OS, and they are PPC code. That is why Rosetta is an on-demand install feature: To install all those PPC libraries.

Nice adaptation of Fat for 64/32-bit x86 apps, BTW.

Of course all of the OS's you talk about are PPC systems that ran on PPC hardware. PPC software ruining on Intel chips require additional resources
Yes, my point was that merely having a cross-platform OS doesn't mean there is a speed penalty. PPC apps that went Universal don't run slower on either PPC or Intel as a result of being Universal, as opposed to 'thin.' The same is true in the OS itself. Only one code stream is being loaded and run on any given system. (Excepting when you are doing Rosetta). To any one who disagrees, I point out that OS X is still very much a cross platform system; the systems are now x86, AMD64, and ARM.

Except if you strip out older libraries, the programs are smaller and less bloated. Plus your statement isn't universally true of all apps.

They are smaller, but they are no less bloated, because they don't run any faster when you strip out one architecture. Removing 'bloat', by definition, would have an impact on performance. If the performance isn't impacted, it isn't bloat.
 
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