The Clean install was a nothing but problems for me when compared to the upgrade.
The upgrade was flawless, which amazed me, even with the bugs I still deal with.
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Anyone else think Snow Leopard... sucks?
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The upgrade was flawless, which amazed me, even with the bugs I still deal with.
I had low expectations before installing a 10.X.0 OS, however, I love SL on my ageing macbook. Its much more responsive and feels much more stable than it did previously. Great!
Having said that, my primary mac which I use for my living will stay on Leo a while longer.
Feeling Snow'd
Yay, I paid $30 for Snow Leopard, my internet sharing won't work anymore, my printer became obsolete, and any usb device, iphone included, has to be manually reinserted each time I want to sync. This is the biggest Apple disappointment ever. I have been using a mac since system 7 and this is my biggest frustration with them so far.
I can't believe they released this early when it should have been delayed.
Yay, I paid $30 for Snow Leopard, my internet sharing won't work anymore, my printer became obsolete, and any usb device, iphone included, has to be manually reinserted each time I want to sync. This is the biggest Apple disappointment ever. I have been using a mac since system 7 and this is my biggest frustration with them so far.
I can't believe they released this early when it should have been delayed.I'm running it at work on my 15, and it's fine. I'm a little underwhelmed, and was really hoping for increased security, but for $29 I guess it's fine.
I'm still running Leo on my 13, mostly due to audio recording device drivers still being in beta for SL.
I'm still running Leo on my 13, mostly due to audio recording device drivers still being in beta for SL.
30 minutes of work for me upgrading my MBP - SL has worked as advertised...no problems!!! I guess I get to sit here and laugh at all those who spent all day doing clean installs just to get results that are at best no better than what I got after 30 minutes of upgrading!!!
30 minutes of work for me upgrading my MBP - SL has worked as advertised...no problems!!! I guess I get to sit here and laugh at all those who spent all day doing clean installs just to get results that are at best no better than what I got after 30 minutes of upgrading!!!
sputacus,
I did an "upgrade" also and have been running problem free since about 40 minutes after Snow Leopard arrived on my doorstep on release day.
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Besides Adobe's crappy flash behavior, SL has worked well for me. That, and Firefox/Safari lagging every 10 seconds and the choppy scrolling.
I'm also underwhelmed. I use both Win7 x64 and now SL and IMHO Win 7 is the better 64-bit OS choice currently. SL wireless is slow for me. Several of my apps have broken. Fortunately, I use mostly open source/freeware and there are SL versions. (Win 7 didn't have any issues running my old 32-bit apps). Not ready to ditch OS X yet. Maybe 10.7 will be to 10.6 as Win 7 was to Vista. I'm having issues with VMWare Fusion which really sucks. I can't live without Fusion since I have many linux images I use for coding. I might revert back to 10.5.8.
I notice some speed increase in a few apps but nothing to write about. Finder is noticeably faster. SL reclaimed about 7GB of drive which is awesome since I only have a 60GB OCZ Vertex SSD. (It seems like Win7 is also better at taking advantage of SSD)
I notice some speed increase in a few apps but nothing to write about. Finder is noticeably faster. SL reclaimed about 7GB of drive which is awesome since I only have a 60GB OCZ Vertex SSD. (It seems like Win7 is also better at taking advantage of SSD)
Should'nt be sold
Apple should be ashamed. The update is soooooo buggy. I can't even revert to Leopard because the update f#%^^$d up the connection with my TM backup disk. Thanx a lot.
Apple should be ashamed. The update is soooooo buggy. I can't even revert to Leopard because the update f#%^^$d up the connection with my TM backup disk. Thanx a lot.
Interesting. Fusion's running great for me on SL, actually seems faster than it did in 10.5.8. I use it for software testing with Linux myself.
From what I understand both SL and Win7 have been more optimized for SSD use.
Anyone who thinks SL sucks....SUCKS!!
HA, agreed there's nothing wrong with Snow Leopard aside from a few 3rd parties that have yet to update their softwares to run in SL. For users having these crazy issues it's their own fault. It's beneath me why people who have mission critical programs blindly install SL as their main OS when they could've easily partitioned their hard drive and installed SL on it to test out what works and what may not.
All good here X5
Fresh installed on two Macs (My Air and My Pro - it was time to get a clean start with them - too many apps, etc that I don't use any more).
Updated three others (two iMacs and a MacBook).
Total of five family macs on SL - no problemo.
Not a ton of in-your-face enhancements. But, for $29 I did not expect that.
However - I constantly bump into very nice refinements.
Personally, I'm tired of companies making huge changes to the software I've learned to use and love. Snow Leopard is fantastic in my opinion - why change for the sake of change - or force people to adapt to some new eye candy??
Nice job Apple
Fresh installed on two Macs (My Air and My Pro - it was time to get a clean start with them - too many apps, etc that I don't use any more).
Updated three others (two iMacs and a MacBook).
Total of five family macs on SL - no problemo.
Not a ton of in-your-face enhancements. But, for $29 I did not expect that.
However - I constantly bump into very nice refinements.
Personally, I'm tired of companies making huge changes to the software I've learned to use and love. Snow Leopard is fantastic in my opinion - why change for the sake of change - or force people to adapt to some new eye candy??
Nice job Apple
Things break with new operating system versions, it's been that way for decades and it will most likely never change. Windows 7 will break software as well. You can prevent this by waiting a bit longer and research if there are any updates, if it's compatible, etc. I don't consider that to be an OS specific thing, it's what happens with nearly every piece of software.
Fusion 2.0.5 should run great on Snow Leopard, I think VMware even supports it. The new upcoming version that is in private beta also runs really nice and has some really cool features a lot of people are going to love (due to NDA one is not allowed to talk about it). What issues are you having?
Windows 7 simply isn't. The only thing it does is disable some stuff apart from the fact it supports TRIM. OS X also supports TRIM to some extent. The biggest problem with TRIM is not OS's supporting it but ssd's supporting it: there simply are no ssd's that have TRIM support due to a lot of issues (the Indilinx Barefoot drives have problems regarding dataloss when hibernating their machines due to TRIM kicking in when hibernating; there are other problems as well due to too aggressive garbage collection and TRIM).
Like I said my clean install was a disaster compared to the upgrade.
I still can't use my browsers under OS X regardless. It's getting a bit old to see blame the user trotted out, again. It was either upgrade or stick with Leopard for me.
Thing is not everyone has the same idea of a what a clean install is. Some people do a clean install and then use Migration Assistant to import all their old stuff from another drive. This in itself is going to cause issues if it puts any problem stuff back.
With programs like FCS I always make sure that supplementary files (such as all the music loops etc) are installed on a separate hard drive so that when I do a clean OS install I can cleanly reinstall FCS from its discs in a few minutes instead of the few hours it normally takes (because I only need it to install the programs themselves rather than all the supplementary stuff).
Maybe you have a dodgy SL install disc. Why don't you try what one of the other posters said and partition a drive and do a test install of SL?
When I upgraded I made absolutely sure that I had a bootable copy of Leopard in case things didn't work properly.
With programs like FCS I always make sure that supplementary files (such as all the music loops etc) are installed on a separate hard drive so that when I do a clean OS install I can cleanly reinstall FCS from its discs in a few minutes instead of the few hours it normally takes (because I only need it to install the programs themselves rather than all the supplementary stuff).
Maybe you have a dodgy SL install disc. Why don't you try what one of the other posters said and partition a drive and do a test install of SL?
When I upgraded I made absolutely sure that I had a bootable copy of Leopard in case things didn't work properly.
Not to all computers. Only to those who design to run faster.
Basically dependents from your hardware.
If u have a mac with 2.20GHz plus, 2GB RAM and a Good GPU, yes youre right.
But in my mac, runs slower than 10.5
I have mac mini 1.83GHz 4GB RAM and intel GMA GPU.
Its a little bit slower than 10.5.
When i use Expose i see much difference at speed.
also when i play videos on vlc. Some times frozes.(only for a millisecs.)
Also when i play videos on vlc with subs appears lines up or down from subs like this:
It absolutely sucks. At first I was defending the suggestions it was Apple's Vista, but now there's no doubt in my mind. How can Apple get it so wrong when, by their own admission, it's not a completely new OS, just a fine-tune of 10.5?
At the moment I'm looking into whether I can return SL for a refund and just downgrade.
At the moment I'm looking into whether I can return SL for a refund and just downgrade.
As a developer it rocks. GCD is so easy to use and is awesome. I'm in the process of updating all my personal apps to use it.
As a user, meh. I'm not sure it's worth it at this point. But if you want to use my updated apps with GCD you better upgrade
As a user, meh. I'm not sure it's worth it at this point. But if you want to use my updated apps with GCD you better upgrade