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Anyone else think Snow Leopard... sucks?

HLdan said:
Really? How else would you explain how most people doing a clean install are enjoying SL while the rest who refuse to do anything other than an upgrade knowing they have a hard drive full of haxies and 3rd party extensions, then when things don't work they still come here and bitch when they know it's their own fault. The upgrade path works best when you have a fresh install of Leopard and then upgrade to SL.

It makes absolutely no sense for people who are having issues to come here and spread FUD saying Snow Leopard Sux when many people are having good experiences. Who do you think needs to assess what they've done wrong, the people having good experiences? What I have noticed here (or haven't noticed) are people that are buying new Macs with Snow Leopard preinstalled don't seem to be complaining, I wonder why???
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Most of the people I know that have Snow Leopard installed have had no issues with it. Almost all of those have done the standard upgrade which is a modified archive and install. I know lots of people with Macs.....

There are a lot of people here that have done the standard upgrade and have had no problems. You are the one spread FUD about the upgrade process.

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sidewinder said:
Most of the people I know that have Snow Leopard installed have had no issues with it. Almost all of those have done the standard upgrade which is a modified archive and install. I know lots of people with Macs.....

There are a lot of people here that have done the standard upgrade and have had no problems. You are the one spread FUD about the upgrade process.

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The upgrade process worked fine for me as well. It was the clean install that was the nightmare.
 
TheSpaz said:
The problem is… we don't know if the people who are complaining have tons of background apps or extensions loaded causing unexpected problems with Snow Leopard due to compatibility issues. People don't usually think about how many Internet Plugins they have or Input Managers.

A friend of mine is having a ton of problems with tabs in Safari, but when he creates a new user, the problem is gone. I told him to look in his Input Managers folder and he had like 5 or 6 add-ons installed and he also had a lot of third party Internet Plugins, so I don't see how that could possibly be Apple's fault.
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If Apple provided an extensible browser,
people wouldn't resort to these hacks.
 
cmaier said:
I upgraded two macs and both are fine.
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+1. Upgraded three of them. The only thing that broke was Logitech Control Center, but they released a SL compatible version recently so it's all good.

I'm certainly not saying SL is all that and a bag of chips, it's a service pack you wouldn't even know you've installed if it weren't for the black menus on Dock items (yeah yeah 64-bit apps and new underpinnings, but come on, it doesn't have that major release oomph). But what I can't fault is its quality, especially not when compared to Leopard. The initial release of Leopard was a crapfest like none other in OS X history, it was like a bad 1990's Microsoft product. The fact that 10.6.1 is every bit as solid as Leopard was by 10.5.8 speaks volumes about both Leopard and SL.
 
"Snow Leopard sucks, i'm going back to Leopard".

Sense? That makes none.

Snow Leopard is an improved version of Leopard - a lot of people here are treating it as if it is a completely different Operating System.
 
Infrared said:
If Apple provided an extensible browser,
people wouldn't resort to these hacks.
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Oh really? What's wrong with Safari? For some reason I don't feel the need to add stuff to it. It already does everything I want a browser to do.

Also, why can't people download and install a browser that DOES do everything they want? This is the Mac platform we're talking about… it's not locked down like the iPhone… use whatever browser makes you happy.

I'm just saying… you should either wait until your "hacks" are compatible with Apple's new OS, or simply don't upgrade. Don't just upgrade and then complain that things aren't working correctly. I haven't had a single Safari problem in Snow Leopard.

I think people like to make a big deal about anything because they don't know how to manage the software on their computer and automatically blame Apple for breaking their hacks and plugins.
 
TheSpaz said:
Oh really? What's wrong with Safari? For some reason I don't feel the need to add stuff to it. It already does everything I want a browser to do.

Also, why can't people download and install a browser that DOES do everything they want? This is the Mac platform we're talking about… it's not locked down like the iPhone… use whatever browser makes you happy.

I'm just saying… you should either wait until your "hacks" are compatible with Apple's new OS, or simply don't upgrade. Don't just upgrade and then complain that things aren't working correctly. I haven't had a single Safari problem in Snow Leopard.

I think people like to make a big deal about anything because they don't know how to manage the software on their computer and automatically blame Apple for breaking their hacks and plugins.
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Absolutely agreed!! Couldn't have said it better. ;)
 
Snow leopard woes

I think there is a video card prob with snow leopard. When ever I use TVU Player and I expand the window..it crashes, within seconds. If I watch wth windows..no problems. Run all day. Also with Leopard it ran pretty good, but I hate to say it..but It was really MADE FOR XP. It runs on my old AMD athium single processor like a champ.
I have a MBP 2.2 Ghz, 4 gigs, and SNOW leopard. If I choose to run in small tiny screen...it seems OK, but I usually close it after 5 minutes because its too small to watch. I also cannot use external monitor, because I also have to expand window here to make it watchable.
Havent noticed a lot of other crashes except certain things in preview and occasionally when I am using Sys prefs..it will crash for no reason., Wjhn it crashes it usually says kern bad access something or another.
 
Infrared said:
Not everyone is you.
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Believe me… I know.

It's just that some people want their browser to do way too much. I don't see anything wrong with the way Safari currently is. There's nothing for me to complain about. I used to use inquisitor but Apple has built it into Safari now, so I don't use that anymore.

It's all good. Do what you want, but don't complain when your third party system accessories aren't built for the newest operating system because I doubt that's Apple's concern when writing a new OS.
 
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Regarding the "helpful" reply. I dont think the problem is with TVU-SNLeop, because using the same MBP, I used it successfully with 10.5+. I have also seen problems with other graphic type apps.(Preview, Photoshop) I havent downloaded any strange apps, or codecs etc. I dont know, thats why I asked. Geez.
 
123walter said:
Regarding the "helpful" reply. I dont think the problem is with TVU-SNLeop, because using the same MBP, I used it successfully with 10.5+. I have also seen problems with other graphic type apps.(Preview, Photoshop) I havent downloaded any strange apps, or codecs etc. I dont know, thats why I asked. Geez.
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Just because an app works in 10.5 does not mean the app will work properly in 10.6. It is faulty logic to suggest 10.6 has a problem or problems because an app compatibility issues.

Contact the app vendor to see if they have a new version.

Preview works just fine......

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TheSpaz said:
Do you realize how OLD QuickTime is? Re-writing that is a HUGE task. So they made a separate QuickTime called QuickTime X and the main benefit is, it's now COCOA and 64 Bit! So they're working toward phasing out QuickTime 7, but they're not completely there yet.

Think about the OS 9 to OS X transition in relation to QuickTime 7 and QuickTime X. They need to completely re-write it to bring it up to speed with the rest of their apps.

iTunes is another big one that uses legacy code (a lot of it is from SoundJam). So, please give QuickTime X to develop into a feature-rich new-age app.
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QuickTime X is by far and away my biggest complaint about SL also.
Without QuickTime X "Pro", I don't need SL. Thank god it only costs $29.
I would have thought that Apple would have had their basic applications like QT ready when they bring out a new OS.
That just goes to show how stupid I am!
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Topper said:
QuickTime X is by far and away my biggest complaint about SL also.
Without QuickTime X "Pro", I don't need SL. Thank god it only costs $29.
I would have thought that Apple would have had their basic applications like QT ready when they bring out a new OS.
That just goes to show how stupid I am!
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Come on now....

The QuickTime 7 player is available in SL and can be turned into QuickTime 7 Pro if you have the key.

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sidewinder said:
All I did was show how your gripe, i.e., "biggest complaint", about SL was bogus and not even an issue.
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Is that right? Bogus and not an issue, huh?

I don't know why I thought I would be able to do video editing faster in SL than I could with Leopard.
What in the heck was I thinking? Dummy, dummy me!
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Topper said:
Is that right? Bogus and not an issue, huh?

I don't know why I thought I would be able to do video editing faster in SL than I could with Leopard.
What in the heck was I thinking? Dummy, dummy me!
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Is the video editing software updated to take advantage of Snow Leopard's new features? Grand Central Dispatch, 64-Bit, OpenCL? If not, then you had false expectations about Snow Leopard.

The stuff included with Snow Leopard hums right along without a hitch. The Finder is a HUGE improvement over the old Finder!
 
Topper said:
Is that right? Bogus and not an issue, huh?

I don't know why I thought I would be able to do video editing faster in SL than I could with Leopard.
What in the heck was I thinking? Dummy, dummy me!
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Well, if you would stop changing the complaint every time your complaints get negated.....

Why would you expect to be able to do video editing faster in SL? Did you get updated apps that take advantage of the new technologies in SL? If not, how in the world could the apps do their work any faster?

Again, your complaint is bogus and a non-issue.....

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sidewinder said:
Why would you expect to be able to do video editing faster in SL? Did you get updated apps that take advantage of the new technologies in SL? If not, how in the world could the apps do their work any faster?
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My expectation was that QuickTime X would have a "Pro" version and would therefore be faster in SL!

TheSpaz said:
then you had false expectations about Snow Leopard.
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Yes, I did.
I'm outta here. Have a good day.
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Topper said:
My expectation was that QuickTime X would have a "Pro" version and would therefore be faster in SL!
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Why would it be faster? The apps you are using to create videos have their own encoders, right? QuickTime X is not going to play back any faster.

I think you need to get a better understanding of what software does what before you blame any software for anything.

SL provides several new technologies that would allow your video editing apps to be faster if they were updated to use those technologies.

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sidewinder said:
Why would it be faster? The apps you are using to create videos have their own encoders, right? QuickTime X is not going to play back any faster.

I think you need to get a better understanding of what software does what before you blame any software for anything.

SL provides several new technologies that would allow your video editing apps to be faster if they were updated to use those technologies.

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I didn't say playback. I said video editing.
Since QuickTime X is 64-bit, QuickTime X Pro would be 64-bit and would be faster for video editing than the current QuickTime 7 Pro.

p.s. I've been working with Macs for almost 20 years.
My résumé is quite impressive.
 
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