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Anyone else think Snow Leopard... sucks?

Im not at all impressed with SnowLeopard.
I think Leopard was one of the best os' released that ive personally used.

i havent noticed any improvements under my clean install on a 2.4ghz late 09 macbookpro 15" with a 128GB SSD & 4gb of memory

ive experienced random finder crashes and relaunches and hang ups.
ive migrated over using migration assistant and did a clean install and installed indivudally but really no apparent difference =\

boot times are the same, abttery life actually decreased and more application crashes; firefox, mail, ichat, safari.

funny enough Adobe CS2 applicaitons have yet to crash but all CS3 and CS4 crash consistantly.

lol....besides all the new software releases by apple havent been that fantastic, iTunes9; dont get me started...garbage
 
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hello. could somebody help me in downgrading snow leopard? when i choose the archive n install i see a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark above my hdd icon. i dont wanna erase all of my data and i dont have time machine backup. pls help me SL is terrible.
 
punkass said:
hello. could somebody help me in downgrading snow leopard? when i choose the archive n install i see a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark above my hdd icon. i dont wanna erase all of my data and i dont have time machine backup. pls help me SL is terrible.
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How do you figure SL is terrible...
 
downgrade

it's full of bugs, safari is slower (fe. open the tabs), exposé stucking (when more applications are running)... i dont wanna write examples i would like my leopard which works.
i cannot use archive n install. why? please.
 
You cannot downgrade an OS, you have no other choice but to erase, reformat and install. You should've partitioned your hard drive first and installed SL to test it out first. It's hard to believe you're really having all these problems. Most people are having excellent experiences including myself. 5 installs of SL in my household and not a problem with any of them.
 
HLdan said:
You cannot downgrade an OS, you have no other choice but to erase, reformat and install. You should've partitioned your hard drive first and installed SL to test it out first. It's hard to believe you're really having all these problems. Most people are having excellent experiences including myself. 5 installs of SL in my household and not a problem with any of them.
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I bet the people having the most problems are people who are trying to use Input Managers and other 3rd party add-ons and extensions. It wouldn't surprise me if old Input Managers are broken in Snow Leopard.

I don't use any input managers or third party plugins and I'm having a great experience with Snow Leopard.
 
My biggest beef with SL right now is watching any sort of video. I can't watch videos on Youtube anymore because the "WebKit Plugin" consumes my CPU power to the point that the video lags. This is pissing me off. Another problem that I have is RAM usage. My uptime is 2 days and I have about 900MB free out of my 4GB.
 
noodle654 said:
My biggest beef with SL right now is watching any sort of video. I can't watch videos on Youtube anymore because the "WebKit Plugin" consumes my CPU power to the point that the video lags. This is pissing me off. Another problem that I have is RAM usage. My uptime is 2 days and I have about 900MB free out of my 4GB.
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Not my experience at all. YouTube works great on my Mac Pro and MacBook Pro. I always watch videos in HD too.
 
Greenman85 said:
Snow Leopard is amazing. zero flaws so far!
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If it was amazing and zero flaws then Apple wouldn't bother with 10.6.2 but as you can see from the list, there are loads of bugs and issues most of us come across so that is why we either want to downgrade or we are waiting for it to be fixed before we upgrade.
I put SL on my laptop and I do regret it a bit. Luckily, my laptop is not my main machine so I'm not that upset.

Consider yourself lucky if you have no issues. Others are not so fortunate.
 
Gloor said:
If it was amazing and zero flaws then Apple wouldn't bother with 10.6.2 but as you can see from the list, there are loads of bugs and issues most of us come across so that is why we either want to downgrade or we are waiting for it to be fixed before we upgrade.
I put SL on my laptop and I do regret it a bit. Luckily, my laptop is not my main machine so I'm not that upset.

Consider yourself lucky if you have no issues. Others are not so fortunate.
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It's amazing that the people that have good experiences with SL are considered "Lucky" but the ones that can't do it right are billed as "unfortunate". :p
 
HLdan said:
It's amazing that the people that have good experiences with SL are considered "Lucky" but the ones that can't do it right are billed as "unfortunate". :p
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Of course...the vast majority of those who installed SL were "lucky" - no other way to explain it, considering how much this OSX sux!!! I must have been flying with the angels when I installed it!!! :D
 
I am willing to bet that people that complain about SL....are well the people who upgraded rather then clean installed. I mean there are exceptions, but thats just me, upgrades are always faulty.
 
sidewinder said:
That's just plain wrong.....

S-
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Really? How else would you explain how most people doing a clean install are enjoying SL while the rest who refuse to do anything other than an upgrade knowing they have a hard drive full of haxies and 3rd party extensions, then when things don't work they still come here and bitch when they know it's their own fault. The upgrade path works best when you have a fresh install of Leopard and then upgrade to SL.

It makes absolutely no sense for people who are having issues to come here and spread FUD saying Snow Leopard Sux when many people are having good experiences. Who do you think needs to assess what they've done wrong, the people having good experiences? What I have noticed here (or haven't noticed) are people that are buying new Macs with Snow Leopard preinstalled don't seem to be complaining, I wonder why???
 
I believe either works, my upgrade on my 6 month old Mac Pro worked brilliantly.
I also recently installed a SSD, did a clean install onto that and it's identical to my upgrade.

If you upgrade and it doesn't work well, you should do a clean install if you have the time.
Apple certainly would not release an update that won't work well when shipped on a new Mac (at least I hope not), IE a new mac consumer - otherwise they get angry that it doesn't work.

The only logical conclusion is upgrading is iffy - it can go either way and it probably depends highly on how long you've used your OS (longer the worse), doing a clean install you should be fine.
By clean install, I mean not installing from Time Machine after erasing your main drive, and not migrating from a previous drive.
 
The new update is coming soon, lets see how that pans out. Like HLdan says though its much better to clean install. Id do that for any OS though not just Snow Leopard
 
HLdan said:
Really? How else would you explain how most people doing a clean install are enjoying SL while the rest who refuse to do anything other than an upgrade knowing they have a hard drive full of haxies and 3rd party extensions, then when things don't work they still come here and bitch when they know it's their own fault. The upgrade path works best when you have a fresh install of Leopard and then upgrade to SL.

It makes absolutely no sense for people who are having issues to come here and spread FUD saying Snow Leopard Sux when many people are having good experiences. Who do you think needs to assess what they've done wrong, the people having good experiences? What I have noticed here (or haven't noticed) are people that are buying new Macs with Snow Leopard preinstalled don't seem to be complaining, I wonder why???
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im sorry but my snow leopard disc clearly says "UPGRADE DVD". not "DO A CLEAN INSTALL OR YOU'LL BE SORRY DVD". face it, snow leopard sucks and apple dropped the ball on this one.

no one gives a crap about the people having 'good experiences' when a lot of people are clearly having bad ones too. that is a sign that something is wrong with SL.
 
MythicFrost said:
I believe either works, my upgrade on my 6 month old Mac Pro worked brilliantly.
I also recently installed a SSD, did a clean install onto that and it's identical to my upgrade.

If you upgrade and it doesn't work well, you should do a clean install if you have the time.
Apple certainly would not release an update that won't work well when shipped on a new Mac (at least I hope not), IE a new mac consumer - otherwise they get angry that it doesn't work.

The only logical conclusion is upgrading is iffy - it can go either way and it probably depends highly on how long you've used your OS (longer the worse), doing a clean install you should be fine.
By clean install, I mean not installing from Time Machine after erasing your main drive, and not migrating from a previous drive.
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The problem is… we don't know if the people who are complaining have tons of background apps or extensions loaded causing unexpected problems with Snow Leopard due to compatibility issues. People don't usually think about how many Internet Plugins they have or Input Managers.

A friend of mine is having a ton of problems with tabs in Safari, but when he creates a new user, the problem is gone. I told him to look in his Input Managers folder and he had like 5 or 6 add-ons installed and he also had a lot of third party Internet Plugins, so I don't see how that could possibly be Apple's fault.
 
TheSpaz said:
The problem is… we don't know if the people who are complaining have tons of background apps or extensions loaded causing unexpected problems with Snow Leopard due to compatibility issues.
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Although I *never* agree with the Spaz-o... I believe he has described the root cause in a nutshell.

All those 3rd party "geek tools" along with all the freaking terminal hacks people use... it's a wonder their macbooks even boot at all.

Oops... I guess some don't. :eek:
 
HLdan said:
Really? How else would you explain how most people doing a clean install are enjoying SL while the rest who refuse to do anything other than an upgrade knowing they have a hard drive full of haxies and 3rd party extensions, then when things don't work they still come here and bitch when they know it's their own fault. The upgrade path works best when you have a fresh install of Leopard and then upgrade to SL.
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I upgraded two macs and both are fine.
 
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