It did"Software bug." Doubt it. But let's see if it actually fixes the issue.
It did"Software bug." Doubt it. But let's see if it actually fixes the issue.
Did Dave Lee lie?
Would anyone have known about the issue without him? Would it have been fixed as quickly?
Are you blaming the media causing a frenzy on the vlogger? Reach out to Apple? It's not his duty. They sold something that couldn't hit the advertised speeds without being in a freezer. It's on Apple.Sure, but he could’ve contacted Apple first before posting this sort of video. Stuff like this has the potential to ruin sales. Lots of newspapers ran with this without doing their own tests. People who visit these sites daily will find out that the problem is fixed but what about those who don’t? Articles saying everything is fine don’t get many clicks.
It was only released to the general public 16 days ago. How quickly do you think they should have figured out the problem? Truth is, is shouldn't have happened at all, but hey, even the people that work at Apple are only human
They would have figured it out within days, but that’s not what I was talking about. I was referring to the comments saying Apple should have posted a ‘looking into it’ comment, not that they should have named the issue or released a fix earlier.
Dave Lee is a real jerk for besmirching Apple’s name right after they had just launched a well received refresh after months of complaining about not having Coffee Lake and keyboard problems.
Apple just can’t get a break. Seems like every other person is just out to damage Apple’s rep. With the iMac Pro it was Linus, breaking a new $5000 machine. All YouTube tech vloggers should be put of out of business.
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Frankly they’re much more likely to worry about performance with FCP X then Adobe Premiere. They also name drop Davinci Resolve a heck of a lot more as an alternative. I’m sure everything will be fine. Maybe Adobe can do something on their end to improve performance on the Mac. These numbers weren’t just due to throttling. It simply isn’t optimized good enough for High Sierra. Perhaps that will change with Mojave when they will be forced to use Metal.
is everyone done bitching now? The smart people said it was a firmware or bug fix, which it was, but bangwagoners wanna jump on apple for everything :/
Apple just can’t get a break. Seems like every other person is just out to damage Apple’s rep. With the iMac Pro it was Linus, breaking a new $5000 machine. All YouTube tech vloggers should be put of out of business.
I like Dave Lee's videos and all, but I have a hard believing a YouTuber with a job on the side in addition to making other non-other Apple videos is more thorough than Apple's in-house team. If true, Apple should be embarrassed. Perhaps they'll offer Dave a job....Very hard to believe Apple could not detect it given the workflow that exposes it (very normal video exporting).
Its good its fixed supposedly, but Apple does not look good here. If they actually performed "extensive testing" and failed to use Adobe Premier Export... thats not a good look.
I like Dave Lee's videos and all, but I have a hard time a YouTuber with a job on the side in addition to making other non-other Apple videos is more thorough than Apple's in house team. If true, Apple should be embarrassed. Perhaps they'll offer Dave a job....
Please read carefully next time.
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Apple says the bug affected performance on not only the high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro configured with a six-core Intel Core i9 processor, which has faced the most extreme throttling in tests, but also quad-core Core i7 and Core i5 configurations, extending to the latest 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar models.
It appears to be a problem with thin laptops with insufficient cooling. Thus far, complaints have mainly come from users of MBP's and Dell XPS-15 machines sporting the i9/6 core, which both have a very thin form factor. The issue doesn't come up until CPU intensive applications are ramped into use such as Final Cut or gaming software. Even though those users make a fairly small minority of overall laptop users, they are the ones interested in such high performance and expensive hardware. That means that i9 cpus are actually aimed at those people, and both Apple and Dell failed to supply the needed cooling and form factor needed to support CPU intensive software. Here is a collection of current laptops featuring the i9 - you'll note that they are nearly all large beefy gaming laptops with multiple fans. If companies like Apple and Dell want to feature this chip in their laptops, they are going to have to come up with thicker, heavier laptops which can keep the chip cool under stress.https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...u&fr=yhs-Lkry-SF01&hspart=Lkry&hsimp=yhs-SF01I’ll await revised benchmarks and tests before praising the heavens. I refuse to believe thermal throttling can be significantly resolved through software - it’s basic physics! I hope they’ve sorted it but I’ll be surprised.
And yet, this software bug was only caught and brought to attention because of said YouTubers that you pay no attention to.And there you have it. As suspected a software bug. This is exactly why I pay no attention to youtubers ever.
The answers are no. Kudas to Dave, someone has to look out for the consumer. Apple is not a perfect business no business is perfect. The squeaky wheels gets the grease.Did Dave Lee lie?
Would anyone have known about the issue without him? Would it have been fixed as quickly?
It would seem apropos for the engineers to have thought to test the i9 under high cpu stress. If they'd have tested the MBP i9 with Final Cut Pro or the like - software for which the chip was designed - you'd think they might have noticed the heating and throttling under CPU stress and corrected the cooling issues before releasing the laptop. The MBP i9 starts over 4K and tops out at over 10K when fully spec'd. People don't buy laptops like that to surf the web, get on facebook, or read email. They want a fully functioning high performance CPU to run their professional applications. The same applies to PC laptops where most PC i9 laptop purchasers are gamers, who don't care about light and thin. To my knowledge, only the Dell XPS15 i9 suffers the same issues as the MBP - they're both thin and light.It (The 2018 MacBook Pro) was only released to the general public 16 (I'm crap at maths and probably mean 12) days ago. How quickly do you think they should have figured out the problem? Truth is, is shouldn't have happened at all, but hey, even the people that work at Apple are only human
Is that true? I don't know.Kind of like how video gamers discover way more bugs than a gaming company's own internal testing team.
What does "extending" mean to you. Sorry but I read it carefully. My 2018 i7 got the update, so what does that mean?I gues you should also read carefully next time... quad-core Core i7 is not a thing in this years release.
@Joe Rossignol i guess that's error in text ^
Isn't there a quad core I-7 in the 13 inch?What does "extending" mean to you? Sorry but I read it carefully.
Yes, there is an option. That's why the bug swatting update encompasses all 2018 MacBook Pros.Isn't there a quad core I-7 in the 13 inch?
This is exactly why I pay no attention to youtubers ever.