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You're projecting your own attitudes on the market.

Customers barely know any of this is going on. Customers aren't turned off by any of this because they don't care. Apple's been suing everyone possible for years, and consumers didn't care back then, either.

It's all about the goods - more iPads and iPhones for everyone. No one cares about legal BS. People don't moralize about tech.

Unfortunately, this is the only time I'll agree with you.

The general public has no integrity.
 
Also another quick thing to add, sucks how apple limits the media files too i mean wtf? seriously?

FLAC for example (way better than mp3) and MKV or even AVI, having to buy apps to play these files is just stupid tbh when you can play these right out the box in most android devices.
 
Also another quick thing to add, sucks how apple limits the media files too i mean wtf? seriously?

FLAC for example (way better than mp3) and MKV or even AVI, having to buy apps to play these files is just stupid tbh when you can play these right out the box in most android devices.

I suspect that has to do with piracy and apple's distribution of media through their itunes store from networks.

Give ipod/iphone/ipad the ability to playback open source formats like xvid, x264 and mkv and a lot less people will legally purchase their content.

But thats just another reason why I use Android, no need to put up with apple's horse hockey, as sour as that may taste for the apple fanboys.
 
I am pretty sure Samsung does not sell millions of units per week at any time, much less on the week of release into a given market, domestic or foreign.

Well, it seems that Samsung sold at least the same amount of smartphones per quarter than Apple so yes, they sell millions of units per week at any time
 
Samsung says the same about their users:

"Samsung argues that they [Apple] are not direct competitors because Samsung customers are unlikely to switch from a Samsung product to an Apple product. Samsung offers evidence that its products cater to a different part of the smartphone market than the Apple iPhone because the products have different operating systems." (page 31)
 
Seriously.

I thought Steve Jobs said the way to succeed as a company is to 'innovate', I don't remember a quote where he said the way to succeed is to 'litigate'.

See, there you go thinking again. So your idea is I innovate and you go ahead and steal all my ideas. :rolleyes:
 
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This is not suprising. Who in their right mind switch to android after using ios????????????
 
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This is not suprising. Who in their right mind switch to android after using ios????????????

Me.

Relax yourself though.
 
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This is not suprising. Who in their right mind switch to android after using ios????????????

People who might think different?:cool:
 
I am an iPhone to Samsung switcher, i had a 1st gen iPhone, and a 3Gs (upgrade cycles being what they are), but was so dissatisfied with the iPhone as an actual phone, mainly due to the battery not getting through an entire work day, and certainly not getting me the 16+hrs i need between undocking in the morning and connecting up again as i go to bed that i need my "portable" device that is a tether to the world to have as a minimum without the need for extra battery packs or bulky chargers i have to carry with it.

For me the Samsung Galaxy SII lets me do everything i did on the iPhone, browse the net, read email, Facebook, twitter,watch video, listen to music on the go (even sync with iTunes with a bit of tweaking), text and , most importantly, take and make calls throughout the day without fear of battery life suddenly ending on me at 4pm.

right now, after undocking at 630am this morning, (its now 10:37 at night) my SII still has over 30% charge remaining, the 3Gs, and friends who have iPhone 4 and 4s all say they have to either minimise use, turn off wifi/bluetooth/3G and still end up having to top up charge mid afternoon 4pm-6pm ish.

However, i did not "abandon" the apple ecosystem, i have an iPad, on which my old apps all run, and as i primarily used them for lesure rather than work, do that on the bigger screen is a blessing.

The correct assessment of the samsung and apple issue here i believe is that :

Apples iPad will cannibalise sales of the iPhone going forward, as people realise they can have the best of both worlds, the fantastic app ecosystem of apple on a large device, and a usable smart phone that lasts a full day on a single charge with another phone (be it android, Blackberry or Windows 7).

Or, alternatively, people who are happy with the iPhone and spend a lot of time in offices where they can charge from the PC they are at and don't experience the battery issue, can buy cheaper android tablets or more functional android/windows convergence devices like netbooks

obviously apple wants to stop this, so it wants its competition to not release anything that competes in either market.

Just my 2c after chatting with people who have abandoned the iPhone since the 3Gs and 4 release, and they all say the same thing as me, we don't need lightest and thinnest with a 6hr battery life, increase the thickness a little, add a little weight and give us a battery that lasts a day, could doubling the iPhones battery REALLY make it impossible to lift and so thick you can't fit it in your pocket ?!?!?!
 
"I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this." -Steve Jobs.

Sounds good to me.

I don't see any reason not to believe Steve Job's so far. Even Samsung's packaging and accessories are knock off's of Apple's hard work.

I hope Apple carries out Steve's wishes and destroys both Android and Samsung.

You can bet while Apple is litigating its innovating too while others watch and wait to copy their smart work. TV is next in line, go Apple go!
 
Maybe if Steve spent less time butthurt with furious rage over android, adobe, microsoft, Samsung (notice a pattern), motorola, psystar etc he would still be alive today.

That's about the most disgusting thing I have read here for a while. Since English is not my first language, and I can't find it in the dictionary, could you explain the meaning of "butthurt"? Is that something you know a lot about from personal experience?
 
Give ipod/iphone/ipad the ability to playback open source formats like xvid, x264 and mkv and a lot less people will legally purchase their content.

But thats just another reason why I use Android, no need to put up with apple's horse hockey, as sour as that may taste for the apple fanboys.

Sorry to sour your party, but Android natively also doesn't support xvid.

MKV support only appeared now with Android 4.0 and even then only works with Google's VP8 codec, not the widely used h.264 . It's not like it's a lot better...

http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html

If you go to apps - from the store or manufacturer - then iOS also has apps like AVplayerHD which play them.
 
Strange I know lots of people who left iphone after seeing the Galaxy S2. I guess Apple have to do some damage control seeing as how Android is the dominant force in the smartphone industry.
 
Android fan boy here :p

Of course, samsung makes way better stuf than apple. Only props to apple though as they get more sales from uneducated tech free people. Thats one thing I like about Apple, they have built up reputation for their friendly UI that just works because it's simple and easy to use.

Android on the other hand of course it's somewhat Identical (exactly the same for texting/calling) but for like gaming, benchmarks/performance, mod/hack/customization. Props goes out to android for all that jazz but the thing is that people are so "Use to" apple's way of selling stuff from their ads that they feel norm to them so the "uneducated people" usually go out to buy the apple products.

Then theres those hardcore apple fans who are tech educated and will back up apple, not gonna blame them...

Anyways, if Apple droped their limitations while keeping the friendly UI they always have had, I'm sure they'll boost in sales. Until that day, Android will always rule on the mod/hack/customization area. If you don't believe me on customization search up custom rom, beautiful widget/fancy widget, adw launcher/go launcher, etc. All that stuf except custom rom you don't even need to hack your phone to do so unlike iphone/pod/pad and even then the themes you download off (certain sites or source that i wont mention) are pretty crappy and too much effort to do.

let the spazz/flame begin lol...

Android rules :)

If Apple dropped limitations, iOS will become the mess that Android is. ICS is an improvement UI wise, but people don't realize the fundamental problems of Android. It's the business model.

Fragmentation is real and it sucks for devs. People think because Android has markets that apps will work on all devices provided they have the same OS. This isn't even true due to the wide variety of Android devices, many of which don't offer improvements over previous ones. Even if you get an app to work on a certain device, not all features may work as expected. I know people who use Android to try something different, but no one I know loves it.

You don't even get timely updates unless you get a Nexus device, but then where is the choice? If you are going to use a custom ROM, then what's the difference between Android and Jailbreaking?

I'm glad Android is getting better because there is more competition, but I don't buy that people are getting iPhones because they are uneducated. Even just in my university program about design/multimedia/comp sci, the majority of people use iPhones. Being tech savvy doesn't mean you want to spend loads of time making your phone right for you. Phones are still just phones, and all these little tweaks are neat and all, but don't add much to the experience and don't make the phone much more efficient.
 
Some here have said in effect Samsung is better in some respects, does not need Apple and besides they have a less restrictive ecosystem and hardware "limitation". Great, then can Samsung at least stop copying Apple since they don't need to, to prevail in the marketplace of adoption and market share? Please?

Just askin'

Rocketman

Apple makes vastly more profit so . . . . .
 
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"...Apple's admission that Samsung is more likely to take market share from other Android manufacturers than it is from Apple."

Important point for any investors long AAPL.

Looks like they finally admitted that.

Anyway, these two companies should stop screwing with each other and making themselves look bad.

Plus, destroying Android will be highly unrealistic. Android has exceeded iOS in terms of market share in many countries. I have an Android phone and an iPad, I'm happy with my purchases. In fact, the Galaxy S II seems to be a daily sight here. Apple should focus more on Macs now, iOS has had its day.
 
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Also another quick thing to add, sucks how apple limits the media files too i mean wtf? seriously?

FLAC for example (way better than mp3) and MKV or even AVI, having to buy apps to play these files is just stupid tbh when you can play these right out the box in most android devices.

That's right, if Apple doesn't sell a product that needs a particular codec they tend not to support it. It's for that reason that I think iOS/OSX is not so much about high quality as about content purchasing.

FLAC and BR offer much better quality than that available from Apple. Rather than being seen as the highest quality available from audio and video, and therefore important to discriminating consumers, they may be interpreted as competition.
 
I hope not. I'm a hardcore Apple guy from '85. Have 7 macs in the house, 2 iphones, ipad, apple tv, bla bla bla.

But you were polite and stated your opinion. If you get flamed, it won't entirely surprise me, just another example that a few spazzes here are so into Apple they can't have a level headed discussion about this.

I believe the spazzes might be based on the fact this user is on a Mac Fanboy site and rips both Apple, it's UI and functionality and praises Android when this article does not even, in the least, have anything to do with iOS or Android. Sure you can draw a faint line between Jobs comment about destroying Android as a reason to go after Samsung. Long story short this user really went out of their way to spazz on Mac Fanboys. The comment did not add any redeeming value to this thread.
 
Everything Steve Jobs contributed to the world and you write like this? Sad.

What does that have to do with anything? It doesn't change the fact that he seriously overestimated the extent of Apple's ownership of design and technology. Yes, "delusional" is a very accurate word, regardless of anything else he did.
 
Customers barely know any of this is going on. Customers aren't turned off by any of this because they don't care. Apple's been suing everyone possible for years, and consumers didn't care back then, either.
Watch any mainstream tech show and this stuff is mentioned all the time. Even in the real news from time to time. Not saying it effects consumers when choosing products, but you'd have to be totally ignorant not to know that Apple like to battle it out in court.
 
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