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Apple adopts Blu-ray Technology

Porn didn't help VHS. Sony was pigheaded and they wanted exorbitant licensing fees for BetaMax.
 
i said it before ill say it again, but with more zaz!

we're all mac people, for the most. we must all have a bit of money to be able to afford mac instead of shed-built PC's. therefore i doubt that the financial aspects will be important. but to 99% of people out there without computers or who dont really give much damn to what they are using; the cheaper will win.
joe public likes cheap. it means you can have more.

heres something though; say it costs £1 for a HD DVD which holds 30Gb. that means £2 would fetch 60Gb, £4=120gb... in the other corner £5 for a Blu Ray disc which holds 50Gb.

personally with that in mind, i reckon the HD DVD will very happily suit mr. and mrs. TV recorders. as for games; Blu Ray does sound better.

oh joyus days! when i will need 2 seperate drives in my computer... joyus...
 
cgc said:
Blu-Ray will play DVDs and maybe CDs. We have "combo drives" right now that do DVD and CD so why not do a "combo-drive EXTREME?" (TM) Cost is my only concern...
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Exactly. You have to have a blue AND red laser in a BR combo drive. Thats gonna drive the cost up a pretty penny.
 
GFLPraxis said:
Exactly. You have to have a blue AND red laser in a BR combo drive. Thats gonna drive the cost up a pretty penny.
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Can't a blue laser just read the pits designed for red lasers?
 
I don't care as long as they release a Mac compatible external drive. :p


Couldn't you have a drive that has a red laser, that supports HD-DVD, DVD, and CD formats, along with a blue laser, that supports the BluRay formats? That would be the best thing. Of course much more expensive. But imagine all those CD formats, plus all those DVD formats, plus the HD-DVD formats, with a bunch more BluRay formats. Oh yeah, and while your at it, make it thin and slotloading too! :D
 
Well as others have said in this thread, I want to be able to watch a LOTR movie in the HD, without having to change over disks, half way through the movie. BlueRay looks like it will be better for this than HD-DVD, so I want BlueRay to win. :D
 
Blu Ray

I had no idea Blu Ray required a caddy. I still remember CD caddies, and what a pain in the ass they were.

I can't believe companies would even consider adopting a technolgy that requires a caddy to operate.
 
Lacero said:
Can't a blue laser just read the pits designed for red lasers?
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No the technology is too different. Because the file structure is the same on HD-DVD they've been able to add DVD support from day 1 into the spec. Blue-Ray has to tack on the red laser.

One thing I think you'll see is that initially HD-DVD will require smaller chassis, look at the Blu-Ray decks..they're HUGE. This all amounts to more money for the consumer to pay.

Toshiba hasn't guaranteed it but they are hinting at $1k drives at launch far more than Sony is. In fact Sony will not allude to anything pricewise and that's rather disconcerting to me. They simply do not know what they can price Blu-Ray now and feel comfortable letting the public know.
 
hvfsl said:
Well as others have said in this thread, I want to be able to watch a LOTR movie in the HD, without having to change over disks, half way through the movie. BlueRay looks like it will be better for this than HD-DVD, so I want BlueRay to win. :D
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AVC and VC-1 codecs will provide 1hr of HD video for every 6GB of data. Thus even the longest running 4 hour extended edition DVD only takes 24GB which easily fits on both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.
 
GFLPraxis said:
It's a brilliant way to respond though.

Someone disagrees with you, send them a link to a 250 page discussion and tell them that the answer is somewhere in there, and then hint how the people arguing with you are clueless.
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Could be. That's the response I get from creationists when I point to evidence for evolution.

Seriously, neither response is a compelling argument; I'd prefer more a boiling down of content. ANd it's also not a slam dunk that the price advantages will be maintained for HD-DVD...A lot will also depend on the mass adoption of HD, and the timing for all the various technologies.
 
HEY !!!

This explains the delay in the PowerMacs. Apple has the right cheap ready to ship out, but they have to wait for the right technology on the DVD Drives. :rolleyes:

I know how crazy it sounds but you have to admit for a second it made sense.
 
nuckinfutz said:
Toshiba hasn't guaranteed it but they are hinting at $1k drives at launch far more than Sony is. In fact Sony will not allude to anything pricewise and that's rather disconcerting to me. They simply do not know what they can price Blu-Ray now and feel comfortable letting the public know.
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Sony has already announced that the successor to the Playstation 2 will use Blu-Ray discs. The console is due out sometime in 2006, probably late fall. At most, the console will cost $300 at launch, anything more would most likely be suicide, especially if Xbox 2 had already been on the market for a full year. So if a game console/Blu-ray player will be $300 (Which would within a year drop to $200), then I believe the price of a standalone player will be pushed down considerably. Obviously, early adopters who buy Blu-Ray immediately will be paying too much, but by next year I believe Blu-Ray drives will be as affordable as HD-DVD drives hope to be.
 
Furrybeagle said:
I don't care as long as they release a Mac compatible external drive. :p


Couldn't you have a drive that has a red laser, that supports HD-DVD, DVD, and CD formats, along with a blue laser, that supports the BluRay formats? That would be the best thing. Of course much more expensive. But imagine all those CD formats, plus all those DVD formats, plus the HD-DVD formats, with a bunch more BluRay formats. Oh yeah, and while your at it, make it thin and slotloading too! :D
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Yup. But it'd be very, very expensive.
 
The epic

hvfsl said:
Well as others have said in this thread, I want to be able to watch a LOTR movie in the HD, without having to change over disks, half way through the movie. BlueRay looks like it will be better for this than HD-DVD, so I want BlueRay to win. :D
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I want to watch the whole trilogy (extended) without changing discs! :eek:

And recut so no credits until the very end!
 
AmnesiacOpera said:
Sony has already announced that the successor to the Playstation 2 will use Blu-Ray discs. The console is due out sometime in 2006, probably late fall. At most, the console will cost $300 at launch, anything more would most likely be suicide, especially if Xbox 2 had already been on the market for a full year. So if a game console/Blu-ray player will be $300 (Which would within a year drop to $200), then I believe the price of a standalone player will be pushed down considerably. Obviously, early adopters who buy Blu-Ray immediately will be paying too much, but by next year I believe Blu-Ray drives will be as affordable as HD-DVD drives hope to be.
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However, their are rumors that the PS3 might be $500 and function as a media center with connection to Sony's music store.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-5593290.html

What will it cost?
Sony--Consoles have entered the market at $300 for the last few hardware cycles, but some analysts think that game companies will push the bar with this generation. Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter predicted in a report last year that the PS3 could come with a price tag as high as $500 if Sony thinks it can cram in enough multimedia functions to justify the price.
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The music store thing came from other sites, but it makes sense.
 
Object-X said:
I want to watch the whole trilogy (extended) without changing discs! :eek:

And recut so no credits until the very end!
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If you use SD instead of HD, either Blu-ray or HD-DVD could probably fit the whole thing :D
 
You can fit 4 hours of DV video on blu-ray. This would be awesome for video producers who need to archive their footage. Of course, the cost of each disc should be under $2, but seeing price declines of DVD-R media, we won't get affordable, mass consumer media until 2010! :eek:
 
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