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I've considered its price but I think Apple is going to want to mass-produce. I don't expect it to be over $50,000. Probably in the ~ $40,000 range to compete with Tesla.

I know Tesla plans to have a car in that range in the next few years, but right now they are more than twice that price.
 
High end makers (and sub brands of regular car makers) are in the 10-13% range. Also, dealers take a cut too of about 5-8% for high end cars. The result, even if Apple doesn't take the whole dealer cut as profit (you do need to spend some money on selling the cars) is about 15%. Adding a lot of electronics in the car could boost it to about 20%.

So Apple will be competing with the high end manufacturers now? I think not.
 
For those who aren't in the know, Apple already has a car that can drive itself around. Their biggest hurdle is that it's using apple maps to get places and they've lost many of their cars this way.

That why the 'Find My Car' app will be included with every new iCar, which will have a dock for the iPhone. :D
 
Hmmm

Well rumors about a releasee date five years from now does not seem very promissing to me. Considering the WSJ is usually quite wrong when it trys to guess about anything more than three months into fhe future I don
t think this is something we need to bank on much. And Bloomberg is even more likely to jump the gun on something.

Really I find it hard to believe that Apple would have hundreds of folks working on something this large that is both five years out and yet so in need of testing that they have folks driving around in easily identified cars. The two things dont really make sense together.
 
Why not just buy Tesla?

Because the market cap of Tesla is extremely inflated, they just released a large portion of their intellectual property for public use, and Tesla does a terrible job at manufacturing cars - they lose $10,000 per car not including tax credits.

Tesla really isn't in the ballpark of how Apple operates their business.
 
I have very mixed feelings about all of this.

The worst thing is that we'll have 5 years of torture via different media sources beating this topic to death 24/7. I'm already worn out thinking about it.

That is similar to what happen with the Apple watch...several years of speculations and probably we will have it by next April.
 
So Apple will be competing with the high end manufacturers now? I think not.

High end manufacturers (not talking supercar low volume manufacturers like Maserati or Ferrari here) are Audi, Mercedes, Lexus, BMV, Infiniti, Volvo, Cadillac, Tesla, Accura, etc. So, yes they will. Unless your telling me they're going to compete with mass market Toyotas, Honda and Kias?
 
High end makers (and sub brands of regular car makers) are in the 10-13% range. Also, dealers take a cut too of about 5-8% for high end cars. The result, even if Apple doesn't take the whole dealer cut as profit (you do need to spend some money on selling the cars) is about 15%. Adding a lot of electronics in the car could boost it to about 20%.

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Tesla lost 300M and every auto makers with eV in their books (A lot of companies) are gunning for them. The have to worry about much more than Apple.

Do you just make these figures up?
 
As with the iPod, an MP3 player, the iCar will come out well after others have tilled the ground so Apple can swoop in with a "complete solution" hard for its consumers to say no to. Better batteries by then, a fleet of charging stations in place, the regs for self driving cars already beyond beta, and debugged. Insurance and repairs and other services already in place.

The only question is who's gigafactory will be bigger? Tesla's in TX or Apple's offshore? The closest Apple can get to Cupertino is 13 mi offshore in international waters.

cite:
DroneRules02192015.pdf

cite said:
The FAA notes that under Presidential Proclamation 5928, the territorial sea of the
United States, and consequently its territorial airspace, extends to 12 nautical miles from
the baselines of the United States determined in accordance with international law. Thus,
UAS operating in the airspace above the U.S. territorial sea would be operating within the
United States for the purposes of this proposed rule.

Oh, and as I keep saying while being talked around, ...
http://www.magnasteyr.com/capabilities/vehicle-engineering-contract-manufacturing

Rocketman
 
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I know Tesla plans to have a car in that range in the next few years, but right now they are more than twice that price.

Maybe in 5 years the prices will drop quite a bit. The Chevy Volt should be cheaper too.
 
Last June the WSJ said Watch would ship in 2014 with 10 health and fitness sensors.

And for all we know, that could have been the plan but Apple changed the date because it wasn't ready. Same applies for the Apple TV. They're probably waiting on better technology. I guess we'd find out in due time.
 
High end manufacturers (not talking supercar low volume manufacturers like Maserati or Ferrari here) are Audi, Mercedes, Lexus, BMV, Infiniti, Volvo, Cadillac, Tesla, Accura, etc. So, yes they will. Unless your telling me they're going to compete with mass market Toyotas, Honda and Kias?

I don't think Apple will be manufacturing cars at all; hence my first post.

I do not believe this one iota; there is simply not enough profit in cars for Apple $:apple:$

The article, however, implies that they will be competing with the electric vehicles from Tesla and GM that will cost under $40,000. This hardly screams high end to me...

Unless you believe that these manufacturers are also planning to produce vehicles of the same calibre? A high end electric car for under $40,000? Hardly their kind of thing.
 
Every time I see these stories, I think of this video, no lie:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE

Apple wants to be a mega-conglomorate like Samsung: phones, fridges and ships. Except Apple will make cars instead of ships. The fridge is coming too, don't worry.

If Apple wants to be like Samsung they are off to a terrible start. You can count all of their products on two hands and fit them all on one table. It would take them centuries at this rate to catch up to Samsung. And why would they want to? The two couldn't be more opposite.
 
The Apple Car will be very thin.

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What's the problem with EVs now? They don't have a great range, they're expensive and there is no real EV charging station infrastructure. That doesn't sound like a market Apple would jump into right now. It sounds like a market that Apple would explore with R&D for about 5 years until the technology catches up with the vision. They've done it for every single product they've ever made so a car is no different.
 
And for all we know, that could have been the plan but Apple changed the date because it wasn't ready. Same applies for the Apple TV. They're probably waiting on better technology. I guess we'd find out in due time.

There's no way Apple was planning to ship 10 sensors in the watch as of June but by September we only got one.
 
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