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Apple Aiming to Ship 80 Million iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Units By End of 2014
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HobeSoundDarryl
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so maybe the 4.7” crowd are wee folk
I think they are just imagining sizes instead of actually printing the PDF and seeing reality. Thread after thread full of whining about how they can't be pocketed, yet unless they were in Cupertino, they couldn't have even tried to pocket them. Where are the man purses or the specially made pants of the big-screen Android masses? Else, where are they carrying phones with upward of 6+ inch screens?
I hit upon an analogy yesterday that might fit well here. If you're a guy and carry a wallet, pull that wallet out and measure it's width in mm. The 4.7" iPhone is 67mm wide and the 5.5" is 77.8mm wide. My "normal-sized" man's wallet is about 10mm wider than 77.8mm. What that means to me is that even in the typically smaller back pocket of normal pants, the biggest iPhone 6 would fit easier than the wallet.
The wallet is also thicker than these new iPhones. So they won't be overloading even a typically smaller back pocket with depth vs. the wallet that is typically in such a pocket.
So how about length? If one is too lazy or unable to print one of the mockups, an easier way to gauge length of the 6+ is to pull out some U.S. currency such as a $1 bill. The 6+ is about 2mm taller than a $1 bill. If I tuck an unfolded $1 bill in my back pocket, it will stick out some. However, if I put it in a front pocket (which is where I would carry an iPhone), it easily goes right in.
Lastly, if one can't print the PDF, break out two $1 bills and fold each of them right under Washington's chin. Now arrange the two bills so that Washington's chins are touching (chin to chin). That's another way to see the width of the 6+ and almost it's height too (mentally add on just about 2mm).
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Or you could just go into a shop and pick up one of the many similarly sized phones on the market. That's what I did.
4.7" is likely what I will get. But I may switch my primary phone number to by BBRY (great sound quality) and use that as my "phone" while reserving the iPhone primarily for Apps. I already do most of my messaging on my BBRY because of the integrated hub (there really doesn't need to be separate Apps for SMS and Email, they all come through as written messages to me). So as an App Machine/Web browser, the 5.5" will be the superior device. I could sell/handoff my iMini at that point as well.
As for pockets. I've put my Nexus 7 into the front pocket of certain pants and it has fit. It will even fit in the front pocket of jeans. But it isn't comfortable. Back pocket is fine though one runs risk of it being lifted or sat upon. That said, I think the 5.5" will be fully pocketable. Certainly it will fit into any jacket pocket with ease.
As for pockets. I've put my Nexus 7 into the front pocket of certain pants and it has fit. It will even fit in the front pocket of jeans. But it isn't comfortable. Back pocket is fine though one runs risk of it being lifted or sat upon. That said, I think the 5.5" will be fully pocketable. Certainly it will fit into any jacket pocket with ease.
HobeSoundDarryl
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Apple's not building phones to sell the most units. They want the fat profits. Apparently Apple believes the fat profits have shifted toward phones with screens bigger than 4". Yes, that means they will not sell the most units, but they've never tried to pursue that goal with iPhones. The high volume, low profit model has never been appealing to Apple. See Macs vs. Windows as another example.
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Or you could just go into a shop and pick up one of the many similarly sized phones on the market. That's what I did.
Yes, that's a good option too. However, we've known sizes for at least 30 days. A rumor from weeks ago pretty much got the sizes right. So there's been plenty of time for people to go find tangible size proxies in Android phones so they could get a feel for this.
Yet, we still have people imagining these phones as near equivalent of holding iPads or iPad Minis up to our ears, needing "man purses" to carry them, etc. So I tried to offer a few ways to turn wild imaginations onto something much more toward reality without having to even leave their home. The $1 bill example even gives them a way to not have to print anything or worry about scaling.
Nevertheless, I expect the "iPad", "man purse" sentiment to carry on until a week or more after the 6s are in stores. Then, I expect all this gargantuan sentiment to mostly evaporate with a bunch of "but then I got to see one" comments.
Geeze I just printed a mockup and that 5.5 is ridiculous... 4.7 for me. Too bad there is no IS on the 4.7 model.
Its $750 on Apple Canada web site for the 6 I believe (last year it was $730, but the dollar has gone down a bit).
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That's so cute... Change her life... Wish I was at that age and soooo naive
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I don't think it will be enough either. It will be like the last few iPhone launches, it will be a few months before you can walk into the Apple store and buy which color and size you want. Otherwise it's back to the check every day while they get limited stock. The US demand is never fulfilled at launch.
Careful there are people here who like the 5.5 in...that makes you a flip flopper!
There is another effect. Apple only sells high end smart phones. Samsung sells high end smart phones, not so high end down to crap smart phones, and non-smart phones. While Apple sales every year are directly comparable with the sales of last year, Samsung customers continuously move from non-smart phones to smart phones costing the same money. As a result, while Samsung smartphone sales are rising strongly, non-smart phone sales are dropping massively at the same time, and a lot of the smartphone rise is matched by an equal loss in non-smart phone sales.
For some reason, nobody ever publishes Apple's percentage in the _phone_ market, only the smartphone market. In the phone market, which would give numbers that are comparable from year to year, Apple's market share has been rising continuously.
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Would be an idea if they had wooden mockups in the Apple Stores. So you can take one, put it in your pocket and walk around the shopping centre for an hour. Then decide what to buy.
HobeSoundDarryl
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I really don't understand why Apple didn't just make three sizes. Millions of people would buy the iPhone 6 at the current size.
I suspect the profit analysis implied that while there was plenty of volume left at 4" and smaller, the target profit margins Apple wants shifted up to the bigger sizes. Apple is not in this to win a volume game; they want the profit margin.
I also suspect that in spite of all this sentiment, the bulk of the gripers will buy anyway. So Apple will get the revenue and profit from even that group too.
If the 4"-or-less crowd was absolutely locked on that size as a max, there would be lots of people talking about defecting to Androids in that size and smaller (such phones exist you know). You just don't see that. Instead, you see lots of posts griping but then talking about getting one or the other (which is otherwise known as "business as usual" when Apple rolls out the reality of a new product vs. the hyped up rumored device).
They have the smallest volume per area of screen size of any phone out there. So, how is it "brick size"? Your bricks are rather light...
I've read some silly stuff on this forum, but this, this has to be the silliest.
LOL.....awesome.
Seriously though, Apple doesn't overestimate. If they say they'll sell 80 million by the end of the year, chances are they'll be right around that number.
Coupled with what will likely be nice little boosts in the 5C and 5S (cheaper prices for pretty great devices), it's not out of the realm of possibility to say Apple hits 100 million by the end of the year.....
That's an absolutely insane number for an OEM selling just 4 models. Compare to Samsung, the world's largest smartphone maker, who sold roughly 75 million smartphones last quarter. Granted, that's not a holiday quarter - but Samsung sells hundreds of different phones.
Truly remarkable.
This. People take such things forgranted; they have no idea how much planning and work goes behind the scenes to make this happen, both in store and online
you pocket people are funny, I wear designer jeans (deisel, hudson) and my 4.7" Galaxy S3 fits fine in all of them
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100's of phones? I think majority of those sales are from the Note and Galaxy so probably closer to 4 models make up that 75 Million
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100's of phones? I think majority of those sales are from the Note and Galaxy so probably closer to 4 models make up that 75 Million
To be fair, according to Tim, Apple did over estimate the sales of the 5C compared to the 5S. That led to excess channel inventory and impacted overall sales. As to the rest of your post, you get no argument from me.
This could be a problem...
I live in NY and was preparing to preorder the iPhone 6 on the apple website. I figured I would try to go through the process with the 5S to see how att next worked since I have never used it before. When I selected a next plan and clicked next I got a message that said "Customers who use their iPhone primarily in New York cannot use the AT&T Next purchase option online. You can click the Back button to select a different option, or visit an AT&T store to buy an iPhone with AT&T Next." I got this same message on the computer. The AT&T website seemed to work but I did not want to enter my CC info and fully go through with the purchase. Since I didn't I want to complete the purchase I chatted with an AT&T rep who confirmed it is true that you cannot purchase a phone with AT&T next if you live in NY.
This is utterly ridiculous and I just thought this should be known since I don't see it anywhere online yet.
I live in NY and was preparing to preorder the iPhone 6 on the apple website. I figured I would try to go through the process with the 5S to see how att next worked since I have never used it before. When I selected a next plan and clicked next I got a message that said "Customers who use their iPhone primarily in New York cannot use the AT&T Next purchase option online. You can click the Back button to select a different option, or visit an AT&T store to buy an iPhone with AT&T Next." I got this same message on the computer. The AT&T website seemed to work but I did not want to enter my CC info and fully go through with the purchase. Since I didn't I want to complete the purchase I chatted with an AT&T rep who confirmed it is true that you cannot purchase a phone with AT&T next if you live in NY.
This is utterly ridiculous and I just thought this should be known since I don't see it anywhere online yet.
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20 million more than iPhone 5? Okay it's two devices but...Apple seems to think that iPhone 6 is the greatest thing they've ever made when in reality it's...a bigger (and slightly uglier imo) 5S. I'm not sure what part of the 6 Apple thinks "is the biggest advancement in the history of iPhone".
Perhaps one needs to hold it in ones hand to truly appreciate it. The only thing that interests me is the bigger, higher contrast ratio screen, but as a big one-handed user, if I can't use it well with one hand it's a no-go. And the fact that you really need a case to cover up that ugly back...and if it's 1GB RAM on top of that...oh dear...Still, it will sell millions. Because who wants to be stuck using last years model, right?
folks are making lots of assumptions...
I haven't used ios8 or the iPhone 6...
Im at least going to give it a chance..
If i can afford the iPhone i probably can afford the android phone..
not sure why everyone is so snotty about a phone?
Who talks on a phone anyways? LoL I never do and that's another reason why I left apple for the note. If you're tall and or fat, you won't look stupid making calls on this phone
Why are you so fixated on looking cool?
Three days ago I wasn't saying I wanted a smaller sized phone. But you got everything else wrong, too.
I'm planning to get the iPhone 6+, because I think it will be more useful to me, for the way I use a phone. Some may think I'm "using it wrong" and I will take that into consideration for about as long as it deserves. I'm not buying the phone to please you or anyone else. It's going to be my phone.