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if you dont have a jailbroken iphone..well... you dont hava a fun free open customizable iphone

these ads suck... im getting tired of apple:(

I'd rather say...

"And if you don't have a selection of 1,348 fart apps....yup...you don't have an iPhone!"
:D:D:D:D
 
I dont like this spots. I'm sure this will lead people not having an iphone yet to think something like: "Yes, I don't have an iPhone and do you know what? I dont even want one!" - Just as a reaction to the elitist and somehow snotty character of the spot.
 
I like some apple products, but otherwise, I am really not a fan. But I think some of you nerds are looking way to deep into a silly commercial(s). And to the poster who referred to the "really?" commercials from microsoft, you are one of those douche's who read that article about how the commercial was so stupid and all that, and let it form your opinion. I see media make decisions for people all the time, and even if you argue with them, you've already lost. If a commercial or company can tell you what to think than you are already weak minded. Meanwhile, its a pretty decent commercial too.

I read many of these posts, both for and against and thought... "really?"
 
I rarely watch tv. this is the first time I've seen these ads, but I have an ipod touch. :confused:
so what if I can't make phone calls to lame people I don't wanna talk to in the first place. is there an app for that?
 
I rarely watch tv. this is the first time I've seen these ads, but I have an ipod touch. :confused:
so what if I can't make phone calls to lame people I don't wanna talk to in the first place. is there an app for that?
Sure is. I use it all the time on my touch~

I like the ads. Makes people want an iPhone even more, I think.
 
Not surprising.

Apple acting pious to their zealots. Apple are control freaks anyway and already talk down toward their competitors. It is just an ad. Everybody takes shots at everybody. But is it a great ad? Not really. Sounds desperate at this current time. I noticed in any debate that when you start hearing personal insults is when you know they are already backtracking. Insecurity is creeping in.

I use multiple phones, so I just shrug it off. Brands overlap anyway. I use Apple, Microsoft, and Google products and services. No big deal.

It is funny seeing the Apple fanboy reactions to it knowing they probably use Google's search engine daily, have a GMail account, use Google Maps, watch YouTube, and probably has a PC w/ Windows 7 or Xbox 360 somewhere in their room.
 
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Too bad they did not show the virtual handcuffs that you get with the iPhone.

What handcuffs? Ridiculous remark. Are you even a user or a loser?
 
Not surprising.

Apple acting pious to their zealots. Apple are control freaks anyway and already talk down toward their competitors. It is just an ad. Everybody takes shots at everybody. But is it a great ad? Not really. Sounds desperate at this current time. I noticed in any debate that when you start hearing personal insults is when you know they are already backtracking. Insecurity is creeping in.

I use multiple phones, so I just shrug it off. Brands overlap anyway. I use Apple, Microsoft, and Google products and services. No big deal.

It is funny seeing the Apple fanboy reactions to it knowing they probably use Google's search engine daily, have a GMail account, use Google Maps, watch YouTube, and probably has a PC w/ Windows 7 or Xbox 360 somewhere in their room.

lol, that sounds like me.
 
I saw one of the commercials on TV and I think people are over-reacting... It is essentially just saying that an iPhone is an iPhone and it is special. It literally has things that no other phone has. It is not just a matter of different hardware configurations duking it out. Like if HP and Dell having competing desktops, the experience and what they can do is essentially the same.

With the iPhone it is not the same. The iPod is the most popular and succesful MP3 player in the history of the world. That is included with the iPhone. Nobody else has that. The iTunes store is unique in its depth and breadth of content from music to movies to applications, nobody else has it.

Their commercial is spot on in terms of what the device is and why it is special and different. There is literally nothing out there that compares to an iPhone in terms of the device, the software and the ecosystem, that is all the commercial is saying.

To me those are pretty strong points, and in a competitive market place if you can truely offer a unique experience that no competitor can come close to duplicating then you should publicize it. That is what they are doing. There is no device out there that comes close to offering a similar set of tools, utilities, programs, software and capabilities as the iPhone.

If you don't have a box of Kleenex but you have a box of tissues, you are okay because they are essentially the same thing. If you have a smartphone that is not an iPhone you don't have an iPhone because no the other device is capable of all the things an iPhone is capable of... that is the long and short of it.

People have to take a second and review what Apple has done in the phone and tablet space. The smartphone market had a bunch of competitors before Apple, but the market was languishing as most phones were not useful to most people and most featues may have existed but for actually usability they did not work. Apple came in and turned that all upside down and took over. Now there are a slew of iPhone clones out there, but none of them match the total package and experience of the iPhone. You take the phone, the apps, the iPod, iTunes and all the rest and there is no other smartphone out there that is comparable.

Same thing in the tablet market as well. Marketing that you are unique and one of a kind is not necessarily arrogant or rude.
 
Not to burst Apple's bubble.... but Apple doesn't provide the boarding passes... or the payment apps...
...the two featured would (obviously) be Delta's and Starbuck's. THEY get the credit not apple.... and other phones have those capabilities as well.
Also... that commercial-time download/install speed is PURE BS.
The commercial also fails to mention that MANY of the apps they count in their store are garbage.
IMO fart, jiggle, flashlight, mirror etc apps do not count.

I'd like to see an Android commercial come out in response saying... if you have an Apple approved phone...
you have DRM....
you have a nanny telling you what content is appropriate for you to have the option of purchasing/installing,
you have a biased comapnyt dead set on telling you what content is appropriate for viewing from within apps (via off phone repositories).
you have a company that could engineer a flaw into the hardware, deny it, then only in the face of overwhelming bad press, face up to it...but only temporarily offer a temporary solution to the problem.
you don't have to deal with a garbage media library app (iTunes).


That said... Come on apple! Where's our iPhone 5!? X-p
(Yes...I love/hate the company.) :rolleyes:
 
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All the 'iPhone-unique' features (App Store, iBooks, music etc.) are fully available on many many other phones including all Android phones.

So I'm not really impressed by this kind of advertising.

as a former iphone user, current ipad 2 owner and current android user what does the iphone do that android doesn't?

Two huge things are:

1) It has an ipod in it

2) It has access to the iTunes store.

Those are two things it has and are huge advantages, and the offerings by Android devices are not comparable. That is the point of these commercials. There are some parts of these devices where Android and others are just pale copies.

I suspect this is mostly to counteract the false sentiment when people say such-and-such a phone is the same as an iPhone. There is no phone out there that is the same as the iPhone.
 
Not to burst Apple's bubble.... but Apple doesn't provide the boarding passes... or the payment apps...
...the two featured would be Delta's and Starbuck's. THEY get the credit not apple.... and other phones have those capabilities as well.
Also... that commercial-time download/install speed is PURE BS.
The commercial also fails to mention that MANY of the apps they count in their store are garbage.
IMO fart, jiggle, flashlight, mirror etc apps do not count.

I'd like to see an Android commercial come out in response saying... if you have an Apple approved phone...
you have DRM....
you have a nanny telling you what content is appropriate for you to have the option of purchasing/installing,
you have a biased comapnyt dead set on telling you what content is appropriate for viewing from within apps (via off phone repositories).
you have a company that could engineer a flaw into the hardware, deny it, then only in the face of overwhelming bad press, face up to it...but only temporarily offer a temporary solution to the problem.


That said... Come on apple! Where's our iPhone 5!? X-p
(Yes...I love/hate the company.) :rolleyes:

Yes but with Android phones you get Virus and water down versions of iPhone apps.. Also Android have more garbage apps then iOS app..
 
When you're the market share leader, you don't make comparison ads like this. And in any case, the smarmy tone makes you want to slap the announcer. It reinforces the opinion of many who see Apple users as smug.

"don't you wish you had an iPhone" would have been the way to tag these spots.

It is not a comparison ad. It is simply saying, the iPhone is unique. There are no comparable devices out there... don't be fooled into settling for something that is not an iPhone, because if it is not an iPhone it is not an iPhone.
 
First app store I ever used was the Download Catalog on the T-Mobile Sidekick (Danger hiptop). Oh, the days of the sidekick.. :rolleyes:

Oddly enough, within the next week or so, I'm giving Android a shot. The HTC Inspire looks pretty sweet, especially at $99.

Oh, and the ****** moron who tried to help me at the Apple Store today really ticked me off. He thought the lint in the dock connector on my iPhone was rust and wanted to charge me $199 to replace my iPhone. The only water indicator that was red/pink was the one in the dock connector, simply because I'm a disgusting sweaty beast when I do cardio at the gym and my sweat touches it sometimes :eek:

That mishap, along with the $99 price tag on the Inspire, and many other things are making me want to try Android. I love my MacBook Pro, and all of my other Apple hardware. But lately Apple is becoming everything they used to stand against.

Ohhhhh yeah, this thread is about those three ads :) On topic... They're not the Apple I thought I knew. This is the Apple I grew up loving:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oAB83Z1ydE
 
So if you don't have one you are somehow inferior or lacking?
I don't like the message at all.
Very elitist....bit like a lot of Apple fans ;)
 
believe it or not some people don't want to spend $300 to $400 on a cell phone plus the contract.

a lot of android phones are free or close to it and most people don't care if their phone is dual core or whatever since all they want is email/pda/internet/video call functionality. they don't care about retina display either

Yeah but it is still not an iPhone. If you want an iPhone you need to buy an iPhone, that is the subtext of the ad. There is no other device out there that will get you the iPhone experience except an iPhone.


Why is it so hard for iphone owners to believe that some people actually bought an Android phone because that's what they wanted. The iphone 4 isn't even the best smartphone on AT&T anymore.

LOL. Whatever.. I am sure some people buy android phones because they want them or are forced to buy them or irrational hate Apple. As for not being the best smartphone on AT&T that is absurd. Again people don't take into consideration the entire package with Apple and the iPhone. Nobobdy else is close. When someone else wants to say some other phone is better they take about having HDMI output or a faster processor, that is minor in the scheme of things, when you talk about the service and support, the itunes and App Store ecosystem, the actual combined hardware product, there is nobody else in the same ballpark. Just because parts of the shell are similar or perhaps even stronger does not mean the product is comparable in any real way.

For the life of me I don't know why anyone would buy another smartphone over an iPhone right now unless they had no choice. I think a good portion of it does boil down to irrational hatred for Apple... Which is a pretty poor reason to make purchasing decisions. Have the irony is because people make these irrational decisions they need to rationalize them by talking about them being better... Flip things around and what major points do these other devices have that the iPhone does not have? It just doesn't match up when you compare massive advantages.

All these other smartphones are copies of the iPhone. Every single one of them is a copy of the iPhone. That is not really even debatable. Unfortunately for these other handset makers not everything Apple does was as easy to copy or replicate, and that is why the copycats fall significantly short and why they are not iPhones.

It is fine if some of you think your android device is better.. Nobody cares, especially nobody here.. Why are you trolling a macrumors iPhone thread if you love your android so much it makes zero sense. I don't spend any time trolling/roaming android threads... Some of you are hyper defensive.

That's an opinion not a fact. Best would mean it can do everything better. My EVO can download faster than an iPhone, is HDMI ready out of the box, has a larger screen, faster processor...

Wouldn't that by the definition of "best" mean the EVO is the best?

No. Best is best, iPhone is iPhone.

When everyone else copies one product and fails to deliver everything it delivers they can't by any definition be better.

Not sure what everyone is complaining about.

The Ads are as intended - to show off flagship advantages of iPhone. With actual user scenarios and sequences. Many are complaining not because of some perceived smugness, but the Ad is showing them how the App store is so much more polished compared some marketplace full of malware, junkware and cloneware. Or how the iTunes ecosystem is extensive, easy and fun as opposed to 'me-to-can-play-mp3' players. And for the ones open minded about the process, take them through and show them the usage process as opposed to just stopping with some lofty claims.

When Blackberry or Motorola shows off something like this, usually one sees a red flag in a microscopic font: "Screen images are simulated". Not here.

Yeah I am trying to figure this out. I actually saw one ad organically in the context of a tv show and without any preconceived notion. The tone people are talking about here simply does not exist. It seems to me a lot of people started reading this thread and if they actually watched the commercial jumped into it with a preconceived notion/chip on their shoulder. There is no smugness there or condescension. All the do is touch on a few areas that absolutely make the iPhone unique. This is an important message to deliver when everyone else is copying you.

When IBM had the PC and all the clones started coming out, if IBM advertised some features/benefits/technology that only their devices offered and none of the clones or copycats could deliver, would that be smug or arrogant or would it just be the truth.

Instead of people getting mad at Apple for pointing this stuff out, people should be mad that all these phone manufacturers made crappy products for years and years and when Apple finally delivered a real smartphone they all just copied it and followed along. Get mad at them for doing nothing original, creative or advancing. Don't get mad at Apple for single-handedly bringing the Smartphone business into the 21st century and innovating all over the place.





ummm Apple did not make the first App store. There were plenty of other App stores before Apples not run by carriers (or manufactures) but third party ones. These were for smart phones. Sony hell provided somewhat of an App store for its dumb phones for little games and themes if you wanted to download some of them. It had some pretty nice stuff to kill time with.

Yeah I don't even know how that is relevant. There was a lot of stuff around before Apple made the iPhone. There were all kinds of phones with cameras and all the stuff the iPhone does.. The only problem is they all sucked and were had to use so for all intents and purposes they didn't exist.

Apple did not invent all this stuff they just made it usable.
 
I like the fact that my Inspire has a 4.3 inch screen and the iPhone screen is tiny by comparison. Andp some apps like hand cent SMS are cool where I can just reply to a SMS without going into the app. And the widgets are ok since they present data right on the screen.

Wth the iPhone it was a minute and 5 clicks to go into the weather channel app to check weather. On android you put the widget on your screen and it shows you the next day as well so you dont have to go into the app

And on android you log into Facebook or twitter once and a lot of apps use that. iPhone it's all separate and you have to type in your Facebook or google credentials 100 times over and over again
 
For the life of me I don't know why anyone would buy another smartphone over an iPhone right now unless they had no choice.

Lol.

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I don't like these commercials

This is the first time I'm a little embarrassed to hold the thing in my hand :(
 
When you're the market share leader, you don't make comparison ads like this. And in any case, the smarmy tone makes you want to slap the announcer. It reinforces the opinion of many who see Apple users as smug.

"don't you wish you had an iPhone" would have been the way to tag these spots.

I agree with this, but of course in a platform-to-platform comparison Apple isn't the market share leader any more:

nielsen-manufacturer-os-share-infographic.jpg


From http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/visualized-us-smartphone-market-share-by-manufacturer-and-plat/

yes it is. People buy iPhone-like phones when they cannot get iPhones

It has to feel like failure when, as a company, you decide that the best you can do is poorly imitate someone else and take home the scraps they leave behind

:rolleyes:
I don't think Android is perfect, but it's not really credible to say it's 'taking home the scraps' when it has the biggest share of smartphone OS and, more importantly, has a much greater share of the market of phones sold in a recent six-month period, below:
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From https://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/0...d-off-android-in-u-s-smartphone-market-share/.

Apple is likely to see a boost both from the Verizon iPhone and the launch of iPhone 5 but I'll be very surprised if that results in a 50% increase in their share of current sales.
 
If you don't have an iPhone your alarm goes off when you tell it to.
If you don't have an iPhone your not locked in to any store to get our apps
If you don't have an iPhone your phone isn't already behind the curve by the time its released

I thought this was MAC RUMORS. why is it that iOS has to be lumped in. there 2 separate platforms. yes they work together nicely, but i traded up from my iPhone 4, 7 months ago to my Samsung captivate and never looks back. theres nothing wrong w/ the iPhone, just alot of things that it just dosen't do.
i guess the bigest thing people need to realize is Android =/= iPhone. they are two completely different OSs, just because they both have multi touch dose not make one a rip off of the other. thats like calling the corvette a rip off of the F-150 because they both have steering wheels.
 
Don't like the ads at all.....very self satisfied and embarrassing. Wouldn't surprise me if they get pulled quite quickly judging by the reaction & comments on this thread.
 
The ads aren't bad, maybe a bit cocky, but I can't blame them. I do like how they showcase the App Store, iTunes, and iBooks though.
 
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