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Neither do you if you think it's just owning an Apple product.

you should all just relax and enjoy your nice phones, i have a bb and i can actually see the individual pixels on the screen, come back when you have something real to complain about
 
I love FaceTime, especially now that a lot of my friends decided to get Verizon iPhones or upgraded their AT&T phones to iPhones. Today I was on Groupon on my iPad and saw a great deal for a campsite. I flipped over to Google maps to see how far it was from my house, flipped over to FaceTime and called my friend's iPhone 4 to see if she and her husband wanted to go with us, and then flipped back to Groupon to buy it. Seamless. And I obviously prefer it on my iPad because of the bigger screen. I also prefer it over Skype even without 3G. Skype sucks on 3G and the app itself is buggy. I use FaceTime whenever possible and Skype when theres no other choice.
 
If you don't have an iPhone, then you don't have Facetime...

Does this pretty much confirm that Jobs was lying back at the WWDC 2010 keynote introducing the iPhone 4, when he spoke about submitting Facetime to become an open standard?
 
The Apple TV doesn't count as cheap? Does Apple make any products that are cheaper?

So true. The only things Apple makes that are cheaper are headphones/cords/adapters, in other words, peripherals. For an actual product, the ATV is one of the cheapest devices on the market to my knowledge.

If you don't have an iPhone, then you don't have Facetime...

Does this pretty much confirm that Jobs was lying back at the WWDC 2010 keynote introducing the iPhone 4, when he spoke about submitting Facetime to become an open standard?

That's a pretty good point... What ever happened to that?

From Wikipedia:
Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in due course with standards bodies to make the FaceTime protocol an "open standard." As of June 2011, it is not yet known to have been ratified by any standards body, and the extent of work by Apple with regards to this promise is unclear as Apple has not released technical specifications for the service. FaceTime is not currently supported on any non-Apple devices.
Seems like something's delaying it. Indeed FaceTime will never be as popular as it could be without it becoming an open standard. Even if Android doesn't adopt it natively, I can see an app coming out in support for the standard in fairly little time... Oh well...
 
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The ad for Airplay was pretty misleading --
Pressing the airplay button showed "iPhone" and "TV"
It really says "Apple TV".... I wonder why they removed the "Apple TV"-- it is making the less knowledgeable think that you don't need another piece of hardware to play video on TV.

Also, whenever I stream video from my iPhone to the Apple TV, it takes
F-O-R-E-V-E-R (like sometimes 60 seconds or more) to begin playing the video on the Apple TV-- not the instant play that I wish for and the ad shows.....
 
If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have facetime.BUT you have Skype. A far superior app, higher quality, more features, and it works on any device. But whatever, hardcore Apple fans still believe FaceTime is better somehow..
 
If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have facetime.BUT you have Skype. A far superior app, higher quality, more features, and it works on any device. But whatever, hardcore Apple fans still believe FaceTime is better somehow..

Actually no. FaceTime tends to be better quality than Skype. That is the one possible reason for Apple to be hesitant to allow 3G because of lag making the thing unusable, and/or massive bandwidth munching. They do need to work SOMETHING out for 3G though... I'm sure it's in the pipeline. :)

Also, comparing features to skype is irrelevant since they're two very different products. FaceTime is integrated directly into the devices making it far more convenient than skype could ever be, even with fewer features. They need to make it an open standard, then allow it to work over 3G, and it'll really take off. However, they might have to disable it on verizon iPhones... I can hear all the complaints of lag now. EVDO is really pretty terrible. There is a possibility they'll wait for LTE before they enable FaceTime over the cell network. That way they wont have to do that.
 
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WOW! Macrumors has really outdone themselves with this breaking story. Is this really worthy of a posting?
 
I used to get excited at Apple commercials, like the Pentium guy getting toasted or iMacs when they came in colors, basically when Apple was in its free-love, underdog days.

The company feels more Microsoft-like now, sterile, and bullying. If you're gonna get big, you need to lose the chip on your shoulder. Walmart doesn't tell people they're losers if they don't shop there. Walmart clearly markets itself for the rest of us, losers like me.

I personally mute the TV both when I hear "if you don't have an iPhone . . ." and during the sickeningly sentimental iPad commercials. The guy doing the voice-overs in those needs to clear his throat.

I don't mean to sound like a nag. When I was in high school and would get a new magazine, I would first turn to the back of the magazine to check for an Apple ad, then to the back of the cover or first couple of pages (where they usually were). My friends knew I loved Apple print ads so much they would save them for me. My favorite was a pull-out ad with a shark on the screen of a PowerBook, I believe a WallStreet model. I felt the same excitement back then that you all seem to now. I even loved the lime green iBook. The black of the PowerBook. I think nothing was more beautiful though than one of the mid model iBooks, with the slightly varying colors of white and translucent keys. It always seemed to look a bit different each time I saw it. And I loved my Cube too, of course. Back then there were no Apple stores, and it was hard to find them in any store. I remember driving and getting a thrill seeing a billboard of an indigo iMac--it seemed like that generation of iMacs had the most gorgeous hues. And that same summer on a family trip to California I visited Apple's headquarters in Cupertino. They had a small store, but nothing much to speak of. It could just be that life seemed much more colorful back then in general, and everything Apple titillated my pallet. It just seemed fresh and new. Maybe it was just my state of mind at the time.

I'll link to some Apple commercials I recall liking (from the free-love, nothing to lose, intuitive computing days at Apple):

Burns: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZnCj3H9gqk
Cube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuJvwvome1o
Not Easy Being Green: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbPz00QHXZg
Middle Seat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQWjxAdSsHE

and of course Think Different, which I almost dislike watching now because it seems in complete antithesis to what Apple is now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oAB83Z1ydE

And the product intro to the product that excited me most in Apple's history, the white iBook, which is essentially the predecessor of the current 13" MBP (it had Ethernet, USB, Firewire, and something the MBP 13" doesn't have: dedicated VRAM):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X9PWjUD9gU
 
Technical question

I have a technical question, please help!

Why is it that I cannot see the two ads in question on Safari but I can see them via Firefox?

On an OS 10.6.8 2010 MP I'm running Safari 5.0.5 (6533.21.1) with Incognito, Fastest Tube AdBlock and Click to Flash. Also running is Firefox 5.0 in Permanent Private Browser Mode with Adblock Plus, Download Youtube, Flagtox, Flash Video Downloader and Speed Dial.

My Safari for Windows app running on an XP Pro machine at work has similar issues compared to Firefox for Windows.

Who's got the answer?
 
When I add a person to my contacts and I specify that they have an iPhone, it should put a small "video" icon next to their name on my contact list so that I immediately know that they have an i-device. I have more than 200 names on my contact list and I always forget who I can and cannot Facetime with. This is a glaring omission that Apple made in the way the software is coded. I never use Facetime for this reason. I just can't remember which of my friends have iPhone and which don't.

Fix this and I'm sure many more people will start using Facetime. You better fix it quick because Facebook is gunning for you.

They already do the iPhone check for iMessage which suggest its not hard.

As for Facebook, how is facebooks video chat a competitor for iPhone?
 
These ads just dont seem very Apple-like. They ooze smugness and arrogance. The iPad "Magic" commercials are brilliant, and are full of the class that Apple is known for.
 
Wow - extremely misleading advertising.
You can only send music via airplay if you have an airport express connected to speakers or a compatible stereo system - both of which are expensive and which isn't mentioned at all.
Want to send your photo's or watch a movie from your iPhone on TV?
Then you'll need an Apple TV for that - something else that isn't cheap and isn't mentioned.

Rright at the end of the ad it stats "Uses wi-fi and Air-Play enabled devices", Apple wouldn't be that silly to omit a declaimer to protect them from people like yourself.
 
Wow - extremely misleading advertising.
You can only send music via airplay if you have an airport express connected to speakers or a compatible stereo system - both of which are expensive and which isn't mentioned at all.
Want to send your photo's or watch a movie from your iPhone on TV?
Then you'll need an Apple TV for that - something else that isn't cheap and isn't mentioned.
I have 2 airport express in my home and an Apple TV and it works just great, but I think this iPhone ad is VERY misleading as it would suggest that all this is possible just via the iPhone itself - which it isn't.
Shame on you Apple! :(

I thought the same thing when I saw the commercial this evening. I thought it was funny how you can barely see the Apple TV in the bottom right hand corner.

Then again if you're dumb enough to buy an iPhone for these two features without even remotely thinking you don't need extra hardware than you shouldn't even own a smart phone.
 
Apple no longer is the brand for creative professionals. Just making toys for people who all look the same, have the same phone, buy into the same old childish i-branding. Wish it wasn't so, but I'm out of here
 
Every time I see an Apple commercial, I get this weird, tingling feeling in my heart and I feel extremely happy. I believe in Apple more than I believe in Jesus. Apple stores are like church, the ads are the scriptures, and Steve is like the second coming.

At least the Apple store actually existed can't say the same for the mystical Jesus or his war God father. So don't worry about it so much your still only a hairless apple like the rest of us. :D
 
I think these commercials are lacking, compared to the iPad ones. Even the "I'm a Mac" ads were better played.

Loved the iPad 2 ones, absolutely despised the "I'm a Mac" ones. These ones sit between :p
 
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