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Apple Airs New AirPlay and FaceTime iPhone Ads

JazzyGB1 said:
Wow - extremely misleading advertising.
You can only send music via airplay if you have an airport express connected to speakers or a compatible stereo system - both of which are expensive and which isn't mentioned at all.
Want to send your photo's or watch a movie from your iPhone on TV?
Then you'll need an Apple TV for that - something else that isn't cheap and isn't mentioned.
I have 2 airport express in my home and an Apple TV and it works just great, but I think this iPhone ad is VERY misleading as it would suggest that all this is possible just via the iPhone itself - which it isn't.
Shame on you Apple! :(
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I think "Uses AirPlay enabled devices" sums it up pretty well?
 
False advertising.

Music the show stereo, pictures/video they show tv as an option?

It is a singular name throughout.

If you name your apple tv (streamyourshit) thats how it will appear on the iPhone.

I know macrumors is full of snobs so before you spew snottiness.

Yes possible with 2 but the commercials point is incorrect.
 
And1ss said:
Does anyone use Airplay? If so, in what situation?
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I use it for watching YouTube on the telly. I could select it with the Apple remote, but it's much nicer to select it on the iPad and watch it on the telly (a lot of iPad passing-around goes on at parties)

zub3qin said:
The ad for Airplay was pretty misleading --
Pressing the airplay button showed "iPhone" and "TV"
It really says "Apple TV".... I wonder why they removed the "Apple TV"-- it is making the less knowledgeable think that you don't need another piece of hardware to play video on TV.
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You set your Apple TV's name in the settings.
 
iDisk said:
I think these commercials are lacking, compared to the iPad ones. Even the "I'm a Mac" ads were better played.
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I don't think it will ever happen. But they were planning a work alike with "I'm an iPhone" and "I'm Andriod." They were thinking of the Andriod user being a cellar-dweller slob with a neck-beard and the iPhone a social college student with a girlfriend. The focus groups didn't work out and they ditched it.
 
Xanderhoff said:
dude! I just learned so much! thanks for that post
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No problem. Been around the pool table in Cupertino enough to know the players behind the scene there. Also, smart enough not to hire on that wasn't an executive position. This new campus is becoming a free for all.
 
Andronicus said:
These smug commercials are really annoying.
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It's curious to me how infrequently people are willing to think for themselves, as if it were somehow difficult to formulate your own thoughts. Often people will parrot a given idea they've encountered with such frequency that they only reveal that they don't really understand what it is they're actually saying, just participating in the echo effect.

For example, you're repeating the term "smug" which is often used to denigrate Apple customers. You've no doubt heard that term repeatedly and associate it with something bad, but you don't really understand it and you've never actually educated yourself about what that term means. And that explains why you think it makes any sense to apply the word "smug" to a commercial. If you actually understood the definition of that term, you'd realize using it to describe a commercial (much less criticize it) is a non sequitur.

So, here's your mission in two parts. 1) Go out and look up the definition of the word "smug." 2) Start forming and expressing your own actual thoughts, instead of recycling things you've heard.
 
goosnarrggh said:
If you don't have an iPhone, then you don't have Facetime...

Does this pretty much confirm that Jobs was lying back at the WWDC 2010 keynote introducing the iPhone 4, when he spoke about submitting Facetime to become an open standard?
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Problem is the mobile standards groups didn't move an inch for Facetime. It had a "not invented here" connected to it and, while a very good technology, ignored. Also, Google is not keen on getting Facetime on Andriod phones while there are many third party attempts to have this happen.

Videophones have a fascinating history. The first working service was in Nazi Germany right before the start of World War II. Yes, another piece of suppressed history. Operation Paperclip got the German scientists who made that into Bell Labs and the AT&T Picturephone at the 1964 World's Fair was shown.

David Sarnoff and the NAB freaked out seeing video transmitted coast to coast over the phone network and petitioned Congress to regulate AT&T to not allow any video services of quality that could rival television. Yes, even then the old media companies were holding back new technologies over fifty years ago.

Facetime is the latest to get video phones going. My take is that it will hit a critical mass when you don't need WiFi on the iPhone 4G coming out later this year. From that, you will see other non-iPhone adopt it. I want to see a Windows app that does Facetime across Skype.
 
inkswamp said:
It's curious to me how infrequently people are willing to think for themselves, as if it were somehow difficult to formulate your own thoughts. Often people will parrot a given idea they've encountered with such frequency that they only reveal that they don't really understand what it is they're actually saying, just participating in the echo effect.

For example, you're repeating the term "smug" which is often used to denigrate Apple customers. You've no doubt heard that term repeatedly and associate it with something bad, but you don't really understand it and you've never actually educated yourself about what that term means. And that explains why you think it makes any sense to apply the word "smug" to a commercial. If you actually understood the definition of that term, you'd realize using it to describe a commercial (much less criticize it) is a non sequitur.

So, here's your mission in two parts. 1) Go out and look up the definition of the word "smug." 2) Start forming and expressing your own actual thoughts, instead of recycling things you've heard.
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God, you sound smug.
 
Must admit, watching the second ad, make me feel there should be one more line at the end.

"Or impossible to talk with all your friends who have a PC"

Considering most people's friends will have PC's this seems a crazy thing.
 
Not sure if I like the "If you don't have an iPhone" slogan. It sounds childish and teasing. It's a bit like saying "if you're not rich/cool enough to have an iPhone, well, you don't get this, and this, and that, etc...". It's exactly how Eric Cartman would put it.

If it simply said "If you have an iPhone, you can do this...", it would sound way more positive.

And it should say that you need an Apple TV to use AirPlay. It looks like the person's just pressing a button and watching it on his screen. It doesn't work like that!
 
inkswamp said:
It's curious to me how infrequently people are willing to think for themselves, as if it were somehow difficult to formulate your own thoughts. Often people will parrot a given idea they've encountered with such frequency that they only reveal that they don't really understand what it is they're actually saying, just participating in the echo effect.

For example, you're repeating the term "smug" which is often used to denigrate Apple customers. You've no doubt heard that term repeatedly and associate it with something bad, but you don't really understand it and you've never actually educated yourself about what that term means. And that explains why you think it makes any sense to apply the word "smug" to a commercial. If you actually understood the definition of that term, you'd realize using it to describe a commercial (much less criticize it) is a non sequitur.

So, here's your mission in two parts. 1) Go out and look up the definition of the word "smug." 2) Start forming and expressing your own actual thoughts, instead of recycling things you've heard.
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"Smug is a settlement in the administrative district of Gmina Debrzno, within Człuchów County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, in northern Poland. It lies approximately north-east of Debrzno, south-west of Człuchów, and south-west of the regional capital Gdańsk."

You're right I was using it incorrectly! :eek:
:rolleyes:
Take your smug self and move to Smug. :p
 
baryon said:
Not sure if I like the "If you don't have an iPhone" slogan. It sounds childish and teasing. It's a bit like saying "if you're not rich/cool enough to have an iPhone, well, you don't get this, and this, and that, etc...". It's exactly how Eric Cartman would put it.

If it simply said "If you have an iPhone, you can do this...", it would sound way more positive.

And it should say that you need an Apple TV to use AirPlay. It looks like the person's just pressing a button and watching it on his screen. It doesn't work like that!
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Exactly this. These commercials are very smug, pretentious, and arrogant.
 
Andronicus said:
"Smug is a settlement in the administrative district of Gmina Debrzno, within Człuchów County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, in northern Poland. It lies approximately north-east of Debrzno, south-west of Człuchów, and south-west of the regional capital Gdańsk."

You're right I was using it incorrectly! :eek:
:rolleyes:
Take your smug self and move to Smug. :p
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Well, look at that! In trying to take a cheap shot at me, you generated some actual comments based on original thinking. It's not very witty but original nonetheless.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; ru-ru) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

What do you need for AirPlay on your tv? Apple tv box?
 
Unless of course you have a Verizon iPhone

Can't get this! And apple doesn't think they are fragmenting their market? Apple is really pissing me off when their ads and website lie about features of the "iPhone 4" You now have to ask which one!?
 
JazzyGB1 said:
Wow - extremely misleading advertising.
You can only send music via airplay if you have an airport express connected to speakers or a compatible stereo system - both of which are expensive and which isn't mentioned at all.
Want to send your photo's or watch a movie from your iPhone on TV?
Then you'll need an Apple TV for that - something else that isn't cheap and isn't mentioned.
I have 2 airport express in my home and an Apple TV and it works just great, but I think this iPhone ad is VERY misleading as it would suggest that all this is possible just via the iPhone itself - which it isn't.
Shame on you Apple! :(
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totally agree on this.this ad should be removed or clarified.
 
I really don't like these adverts, the adverts on TV annoy me enough already.

But I do prefer the guy on the UK adverts we have, don't like this guy's voice. :p
 
False Ads

Having an iPhone doesn't mean you have airplay. You must pay additional bucks..

Facetime is very convenient, I must admit.
 
Facetime isn't very useful or practical, especially with its limitations of running on wifi only. When I first got my iPhone 4 it was fun to use with Facetime with my brother a few times, and we'd show off our iPhones with it to others. Then the novelty wore off. When I make a phone call I really don't have to see someone's mug. Even when Facetime will run on 3G, I won't use it anymore than I do now (maybe once every 3 months, at most).
 
'If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have FaceTime. But you've probably had an identical service for the last 5 years or so.'
 
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