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Well I mean if Apple and Timmy are all about the Rights, then maybe they shouldn't do business with a Country where being gay is punishable by death. I don't care what bathroom people use, all I ask is that you don't get any on my leg.

Third time you ignore the question. Don't like it? Don't buy Apple. Why is it that hard? Honestly I don't think Tim or Apple are going to take you seriously if you just criticize them on MacRumors yet you still buy their stuff.

Speak with your wallet, don't buy Apple. Random posts on MacRumors are irrelevant, and you aren't an hypocrite, are you?
 
Third time you ignore the question. Don't like it? Don't buy Apple. Why is it that hard? Honestly I don't think Tim or Apple are going to take you seriously if you just criticize them on MacRumors yet you still buy their stuff.

Speak with your wallet, don't buy Apple. Random posts on MacRumors are irrelevant, and you aren't an hypocrite, are you?
I don't think Tim or Apple care about YOU or ANYONE ELSE, they are in business for them, not you or I. Stop with the idiotic don't buy it BS. It's rather annoying and considering you think you had to say it THREE times makes it all that more annoying.
 
I don't think Tim or Apple care about YOU or ANYONE ELSE, they are in business for them, not you or I. Stop with the idiotic don't buy it BS. It's rather annoying and considering you think you had to say it THREE times makes it all that more annoying.

So you are all talk, you're against Apple, yet you won't stop buying their products... Gotcha!
Also, wow, someone's mad... Didn't take so long.
 
Sitation 1: Trans people can use the bathroom they're comfortable with
Outcome: Trans people are happier and safer. Cis people still use the same bathroom and their lives don't change.

Sitation 2: Trans people are forced to use bathrooms they're uncomfortable and unsafe with
Outcome: Trans people feel uncomfortable and unsafe. Cis people still use the same bathroom and their lives don't change.


Why would anyone want situation 2?
 
I must say whenever I need a bit of advice on social issues when I can't think for myself the first port of call is Tim's Apple because not only do I believe all their advertising hype, I also take heed of their corporate stance on everything else too. I should also point out here that I am somewhat gullible and find it easier to be told what to do than express my own opinion. Thanks.
 
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So you are all talk, you're against Apple, yet you won't stop buying their products... Gotcha!
Also, wow, someone's mad... Didn't take so long.
So you ASSUME I am against Apple. Gotcha! I'm Mad? Keep assuming. It makes you look...well. Like you.

Oh and you may want to look back on your posts if you want to see who's actually mad. Hint, it's not me.
 
Unless you have incontrovertible proof of that, you might want to keep that opinion to yourself. Mindlessly repeating what some in the media are speculating just because you don't like the man is unfair to the new Potus and casts a shadow on his well-qualified administration.

I'll express that opinion as much as I please. Conservatives love the second amendment so much they often forget about the first. Let me repeat it for you. Trump is a piece of **** criminal and a con man. A con man is someone who cheats others, takes advantage of them intentionally. Trump University defrauded thousands. 1000's of contractors went unpaid by the Trump organization. He faced literary thousands of lawsuits as a result of his unethical business dealings. He's a compulsive lier and a cheater. You may not like it, but that's the reality.

Criminal is someone who committed a crime. Sexual assault is a crime. Trump openly talked about sexually assaulting women. Before you say some ********, victim blaming conservative line about the women wanted it, try something at work tomorrow. Walk up to any lady in the office and grab her by her genitals, try kissing her. You will likely be fired, arrested and charged with sexual assault. Trump Foundation has been used by Trump to directly or indirectly generate revenue. That is also very likely illegal.

Trump is a scumbag who belongs in prison, not the white house. And don't you give me **** about "respecting the office" when your party spent the better part of the past either years blatantly abusing President Obama. That's just ****ing ridiculous.
 
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Third time you ignore the question. Don't like it? Don't buy Apple. Why is it that hard? Honestly I don't think Tim or Apple are going to take you seriously if you just criticize them on MacRumors yet you still buy their stuff.

Speak with your wallet, don't buy Apple. Random posts on MacRumors are irrelevant, and you aren't an hypocrite, are you?
I think you might either have problems counting or talking about another poster. This reply here is my third post in this thread. I'm just saying you yourself want to be quick to label people hypocrites, when if Apple via the leadership of Tim Cook wanted to put it's money where his mouth is, they would pull out of Saudi and other like Countries where sexual deviation carries a death sentence. Just like another poster said, I seriously doubt Tim Cook cares either one of us or our opinions regarding what he does. He'll still cash out his stocks until he runs Apple into the ground.
 
I'll express that opinion as much as I please. Conservatives love the second amendment so much they often forget about the first. Let me repeat it for you. Trump is a piece of **** criminal and a con man. A con man is someone who cheats others, takes advantage of them intentionally. Trump University defrauded thousands. 1000's of contractors went unpaid by the Trump organization. He faced literary thousands of lawsuits as a result of his unethical business dealings. He's a compulsive lier and a cheater. You may not like it, but that's the reality.

Criminal is someone who committed a crime. Sexual assault is a crime. Trump openly talked about sexually assaulting women. Before you say some ********, victim blaming conservative line about the women wanted it, try something at work tomorrow. Walk up to any lady in the office and grab her by her genitals, try kissing her. You will likely be fired, arrested and charged with sexual assault. Trump Foundation has been used by Trump to directly or indirectly generate revenue. That is also very likely illegal.

Trump is a scumbag who belongs in prison, not the white house. And don't you give me **** about "respecting the office" when your party spent the better part of the past either years blatantly abusing President Obama. That's just ****ing ridiculous.
YAWN...When he's been indicted for all these crimes, or even convicted, you may ACTUALLY have a point. You got proof he committed sexual crimes? No? So you just keep lapping up that MSM BS...it's quite amusing. It's funny to see people like you get sooooooooo angry. You do realize Bill Clinton, who is husband to Hillary, in case you aren't aware, you know, actually did sexually assault woman. Oh my.... But let's get our panties in a wad over unproven allegations, what a winner you are.
 
I think you might either have problems counting or talking about another poster. This reply here is my third post in this thread. I'm just saying you yourself want to be quick to label people hypocrites, when if Apple via the leadership of Tim Cook wanted to put it's money where his mouth is, they would pull out of Saudi and other like Countries where sexual deviation carries a death sentence. Just like another poster said, I seriously doubt Tim Cook cares either one of us or our opinions regarding what he does. He'll still cash out his stocks until he runs Apple into the ground.
Exactly, the very first post to that person from me and they tried to drag me into the "If you hate Apple" bull**** when I never said such a thing, and then calls ME mad? LOLOLOL!
 
I am absolutely amazed by the lack of tolerance from this community. Somehow I thought people here we far more enlightened. It's disheartening that so much hate and animosity is directed toward people because of their gender identity. So man
YAWN...When he's been indicted for all these crimes, or even convicted, you may ACTUALLY have a point. You got proof he committed sexual crimes? No? So you just keep lapping up that MSM BS...it's quite amusing. It's funny to see people like you get sooooooooo angry. You do realize Bill Clinton, who is husband to Hillary, in case you aren't aware, you know, actually did sexually assault woman. Oh my.... But let's get our panties in a wad over unproven allegations, what a winner you are.

Let me ask you this... If Trump did what HE SAYS he does to women and it was your daughter or wife or mother that was the victim, would you feel the same way? I doubt it.
 
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I think you might either have problems counting or talking about another poster. This reply here is my third post in this thread. I'm just saying you yourself want to be quick to label people hypocrites, when if Apple via the leadership of Tim Cook wanted to put it's money where his mouth is, they would pull out of Saudi and other like Countries where sexual deviation carries a death sentence. Just like another poster said, I seriously doubt Tim Cook cares either one of us or our opinions regarding what he does. He'll still cash out his stocks until he runs Apple into the ground.


Except, I am not defending Apple. Apple IS hypocritical. However, you aren't, are you?

If you disagree with their policies, yet you still buy Apple, doesn't that make you an hypocrite, the same thing you are criticizing?

That's why I say, don't buy Apple. Don't post random stuff on MacRumors, if you truly want change, stop buying Apple products, that's it, don't do the same hypocritical stuff Apple does.
 
I am absolutely amazed by the lack of tolerance from this community. Somehow I thought people here we far more enlightened. It's disheartening that so much hate and animosity is directed toward people because of their gender identity. So man


Let me ask you this... If Trump did what HE SAYS he does to women and it was your daughter or wife or mother that was the victim, would you feel the same way? I doubt it.
Yawn.... I amazed at your lack of...whatever it is. Again, prove he did it. You can't. Period.
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That's why I say, don't buy Apple. Don't post random stuff on MacRumors, if you truly want change, stop buying Apple products, that's it, don't do the same hypocritical stuff Apple does.
Yawn...4 times now. Do you have any new material?
 
I am absolutely amazed by the lack of tolerance from this community. Somehow I thought people here we far more enlightened. It's disheartening that so much hate and animosity is directed toward people because of their gender identity. So man


Let me ask you this... If Trump did what HE SAYS he does to women and it was your daughter or wife or mother that was the victim, would you feel the same way? I doubt it.

Don't bother with these people. They will keep buying Apple, nothing will change, Trump will be out soon, and they will go back to being irrelevant.
 
That's a deeply un-christian attitude. There's no deviant life style. God in his infinite wisdom gives some people the wrong body, and many affected fix their problem. Even in Iran, the religious leaders accept transgender people and _encourage_ them to make changes to live in the right body. Do you really want to show yourself as being more backward than these people?

What you say is like saying "members of the human species have two arms and two legs". Well, some don't. That doesn't make them deviant.



Lev. 18:22


  • ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." The Lord said that.
 
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"Just move to another state where you're not oppressed by bigots"

lol this forum
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A 15 year old cannot freely leave their parents guardianship
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Psychology is science in every definition of the word
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Can you legally change your gender in the U.S.?

yes you can legally change your gender on your birth certificate in most states in the US.
 
I happen to be married to a very bright therapist and a behavior hospital administrator and we talk about these issues.

First, there is plenty of research to support the notion that gender identity is not a choice. Second, the authoritative voice on mental disorders is the APA, not the American College of Pediatrics. They develop the DSM-5 manual. They don't classify gender identity as "mental disorder." They set the standards. Literary. Anyone and everyone with a license to practice in the mental health profession defers to APA standards. Doing otherwise means liability and potential for losing said license.

Learn (if you actually want to learn) more about it here.

Second, as a Republican (assuming you are one) you have zero credibility and absolutely no ground to stand on when it comes to the idea of propagating self serving ideology. GOP invented it and perfected it over the years. Your party still believes homosexuality is a choice that can be "fixed" with some prayers and treatment. Large number of Republicans today are backwards minded, stuck in the past, unable to cope with the progress of modern society scared little gun-loving racist, sexist, misguided nut cakes. The party is made up predominantly of old white man who refuse to yield social and political power to anyone who isn't them. Most of them "Christian," too. Lovely people. That's just the truth - whether you like it or not.

Please be careful of painting with broad brushes as you risk becoming that which you are denouncing. This isn't a binary society (no pun intended) and I would venture to say that most people who associate themselves to one of the two major parties don't agree with *everything* on their respective party's platform. It is entirely possible to be a Republican and atheist or gay or anti-gun and most are not bigoted in any way shape or form. Just as it is equally possible for a Democrat to be pro-life or a gun owner or in favor of fiscal restraint and some are sexist or racist. We're all individuals.

In any case, you are spot on with the current classification by APA.
 
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