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Just set up my preorder through my NAPP discount (any other NAPP members, make sure to go to the discounts section on the website!) and it's all set - $24 +tax :)

Can't wait for the big (Snow) cat!
 
If I just bought a MBP 5 days ago... can I get them to upgrade me to SL for free? Or am I being punished for not waiting

Even if you have waited till Friday to buy your mac, you wouldnt get SL installed on it. It takes time for macs to ship with SL.
 
Even if you have waited till Friday to buy your mac, you wouldnt get SL installed on it. It takes time for macs to ship with SL.

But, on Friday, they should have the drop-in disc at the retail stores. Maybe not the resellers, but the Apple Stores should.
 
Well they rewrote most of the standard GUI apps (like Finder) in 64 bit. Please forgive Apple for that. They never said clearly in their OS X page that their "64 bit" mean "64 bit kernel," right? Their "64 bit" means "64 bit userland," apparently.

Anyway it's just $30 which you might spend in one fancy dinner. As a geek I would rather spend that amount of money to an OS :D

I remember Forstal talking about Leopard. He said 64 bit top to bottom. Yeah, right. Nothing new. It's funny I can run true 64 bit Windows and Linux, but not OS X.
 
With the 'u' thanks!

Honour is subjective, I don't feel sharing software in a household is wrong. Illegal yes, but not wrong in by opinion. I don't like downloading, but as far as I'm concerned once a disk is purchased the purchaser is free to do want they want with it in their house, provided it is not a criminal use.

It's not like stealing food without paying... it is like buying one apple and planting the seeds to grow a tree. Now, is that wrong? Does the supermarket have the right to control how you use it? I'd say no, provided you don't sell the fruit on.
And you study what exactly?
 
but as far as I'm concerned once a disk is purchased the purchaser is free to do want they want with it in their house, provided it is not a criminal use.

Here's the problem with your argument ...

You purchase the disc, but you license the software on it. You do not, under any circumstance, own the software - Apple does. You own the physical disc, and you can destroy it, scratch it, play it in a CD player, whatever you want to do - with the disc. You have a license to use the software on the disc, not ownership of it.
 
I remember Forstal talking about Leopard. He said 64 bit top to bottom. Yeah, right. Nothing new. It's funny I can run true 64 bit Windows and Linux, but not OS X.
You're perfectly right :) You know, they're exaggerative sales guys. Scott Forstal is one not-so-perfect imitator of Steve Jobs.

But I'm happy with the new APIs in the Snow Leopard, which make my Sunday programming as a hobby more enjoyable. The "block" feature in Obj-C will be a huge time-saver, for example.

I always hope that Apple would advertise what really changed in the core OS, but they never did. They always try to sell what can be easily (mis)understood for general users, and they always exaggerate too much to the point it does not capture the reality. Let me apologize to you on behalf of all the Apple community for the false hype :p
 
Upgrade policy stinks

I want to upgrade from Tiger straight to Snow Leopard and don't mind paying the £80 or so that an upgrade from Tiger to Leopard would cost. But I refuse to pay the £129 upgrade pack as I have no need for any of the iWork/iLife applications. Apple's policy would seem to alienate a large number of it's loyal users.
Come on Apple there must be a third way!
 
I want to upgrade from Tiger straight to Snow Leopard and don't mind paying the £80 or so that an upgrade from Tiger to Leopard would cost. But I refuse to pay the £129 upgrade pack as I have no need for any of the iWork/iLife applications. Apple's policy would seem to alienate a large number of it's loyal users.
Come on Apple there must be a third way!
Why don't you buy both the Leopard DVD and the Snow Leopard DVD?
 
Up to date on apple uk online store not working

I got my Macbook pro in the end of july and i qualify for the up to date program. But when i went to the UK online store nothing is being added to my cart. Does anyone have the same problem ? Called up apple they said the site will be fixed in a day or two. This is so frustrating..
 
So if someone wants to buy the full version of snow leopard he can't do it if he already has leopard installed?
 
I want to upgrade from Tiger straight to Snow Leopard and don't mind paying the £80 or so that an upgrade from Tiger to Leopard would cost. But I refuse to pay the £129 upgrade pack as I have no need for any of the iWork/iLife applications. Apple's policy would seem to alienate a large number of it's loyal users.
Come on Apple there must be a third way!

upgrade to leopard. upgrade to snow leopard. don't buy the box set if u don't want to.
 
"Build Rumors" history repeats itstelf...

A build gets seeded that rumors say is GM. In every single case, people have brought up a newer build that is the supposed “real GM.” In every single case the originally rumored build is the GM and not the newer build.

* OS X 10.0: GM was 4K78. People swore that 4K83 would be it. Nope. In the box was 4K78.

* OS X 10.1: GM was 5G64. Then 5G68 popped up in rumors. In the box was 5G64.

* OS X 10.2: GM was 6C115. But rumors spoke of a “6C115b” (”b?” Really? Apple never used those little letters in official releases). In the box was 6C115. No “b.”

* OS X 10.3: GM was 7B85. Rumors had it that the 7Cxx branch was going to be GM. Nope. In the box was 7B85.

* OS X 10.4: GM was 8A428. Rumors said it’s really 8A432. In the box was 8A428.

* OS X 10.5: GM was 9A581. I’m not aware of a newer build that people said was the “real” GM. In the box was 9A581

* OS X 10.6: GM was 10A432. And now we have 10A435. But what’s in the box will be 10A432.
 
Well, the whole 64 bit hype would be way more believable if apple didn't make pretty much the same claims about 10.4 and 10.5.

But it's not the same at all! In 10.4 they made it possible to access 64 bit address space. In 10.5 they made it possible to run 64 bit code. In 10.6 they made it possible to run 64 bit kernel. Step by step, bit by bit, we'll get there as soon as 3rd parties get their apps together.
 
I talked with an Apple Online Store rep who told me, without a doubt, that regardless of what the Status says, the Up To Date orders will arrive on August 28th. So no worries. :)

Ditto. Some guy called "Mike" said that the "Ships:" line will be updated when the order moves to "Prepared for Shipment". He also said that the MacBook Pro I ordered yesterday would ship with 10.5 and would most likely have a drop-in SL disc.
 
I got my Macbook pro in the end of july and i qualify for the up to date program. But when i went to the UK online store nothing is being added to my cart. Does anyone have the same problem ? Called up apple they said the site will be fixed in a day or two. This is so frustrating..

but did you PUT the UTD disc in your cart? i.e did you actually order it?
 
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