I expected to be able to use my copy I already bought on macOS to be usable on iPadOS.
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Apple Announces Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad With Subscription Models
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I expected to be able to use my copy I already bought on macOS to be usable on iPadOS.
They announce non-developer stuff all the time at wwdc. As a developer, I like when they focus but I would have expected ipad pro workflows to be of interest to the community.
Anyone who is a freelance video editor/creator is likely making at least $4k/mo.
$50/mo for Adobe all apps plan is a drop in a bucket for the insane amount of software and resources you get.
I do agree though that a subscription plan for something like Final Cut iPad seems out of whack though as it will mostly be hobbyists and short form content creators uploading stuff to social media who want to use this software.
iCloud is not a professional storage system. It was built for consumers. I use it every day, but Pro's have different kind of requirements, especially in terms of security, performance and availability.
It's not the same thing: I seem to remember that iPad Pro was available before the Da Vinci and Affinity sw.
Mac Pro (or rather, the 80s Apple tower) has had third-party sw solutions pretty much since it was born.
That's a pretty vague statement. Like trying to compare a bicycle to a Corvette. They're both transpiration and have wheels.... Which iPad? Which "computer"?
The only thing keeping Apple from replacing the iPad Pro from a Macbook is the software. Both use the same processor.
When? Their pro (even semi-pro FCE) apps were never free.
Or do you really mean "like these"? iMovie is Free, Garageband is free.
No. It's the form factor. Not everybody wants a modular computer. It might have its advantages, but it also has disadvantages. Modular computing is full of compromises that I am not willing to make. Maybe someday the technology will evolve that much, where there will be no compromises. We will see..
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Exciting news — and maybe we will see more Pro apps available for iPad in the future. I’m sure this being released before WWDC is no accident. The subscription model doesn’t bother me — it is really the only sustainable mode for useful software.
DaVinci Resolve for iPad is $94.99 and LumaFusion is $29.99, IIRC. Vote with your wallets, if you feel you need to do so. The real proof in the pudding will be if iOS 17 unshackles iPadOS a bit more for this who would rather work in the iPad 100% of the time. Despite all the groaning and moaning around this thread, FCP and LP on iPad is a good thing for us all.
You can replace those Adobe apps (most likely).
Affinity Photos is really good, even better than photoshop in some areas, but it does fall short in a few others).
They can help you with Illustrator too.
AE is tougher. Motion will do some. Hitfilm will also do a lot. I guess it depends on how much you need it and what you need it to do.
It's been said a bunch already but no, they didn't. There have been so many abandoned apps on the app store alone, not to mention all of the software from the 90s and early 2000s that either never got updated or if they did, you had to re-buy it anyway.
This right here. I do remixes/production and I DJ. At minimum, I make $5 in four minutes at a gig. It's an automatic assumption for me that if someone is complaining about the subscription cost, they don't need this software.
I bought FCPx, what, 10-years ago? Along with Compressor. Didn’t start using it until I started my YT channel in 2020. Why? Well I was afraid Apple would increase the price later. They didn’t. A subscription model for iPad level performance sort of works. I guess. $50 a year for M1 speeds. Although running FCPx with a full 800GB bus-speed Mac is a euphoric experience.
The iPad support seems more for on-the-go and in-a-pinch scenarios. Also maybe the young folk. Who have no permanent address as they spend all their cash on Apple gadgets.
The iPad support seems more for on-the-go and in-a-pinch scenarios. Also maybe the young folk. Who have no permanent address as they spend all their cash on Apple gadgets.
It is at this point, with the cost of software apps being driven down next to nothing. I don’t like it, but that’s the future, like it or not.
What "compromises" exactly? Certainly not power. Certainly not convenience. Ipads are an option. You don't need to use every option possible.
I’m guessing they’re targeting prosumers with the subscription model, i.e. people who might need it for a couple of projects a year rather than editing full time. It sucks though that it seems like people who purchased the macOS version won’t get access without also having a subscription.
I know I'm late to the game on this, but if the Mac version of Logic switches to a subscription mode, I'm out. I'm already paying for enough subscriptions, and I would NOT want to pay monthly/yearly for Logic. I could just as easily switch to Cubase or something if that happens.
The biggest compromise is mostly weight, at least for iPads. To get a keyboard with a robust hinge you pretty much need something sturdy like the Magic Keyboard. But it also more than doubles the weight. Combined the iPads pro + keyboard is heavier than the MBA. The flexibility though, is very welcome. I usually keep the keyboard as a dock on my desk and rip out the iPad when I’m on the go.
Logic Pro compatible interfaces are either through Thunderbolt 2/3 or Ethernet, but mainly the former. The number one problem with DAW based workflows are the lack of system resources when tracks and bussing scales up. It's the reason Avid's Carbon and their HDX gear offloads their plugins via FPGAs/DSPs on daughter cards.
It's the reason I'm buying this after I just bought the Rupert Neve Designs 5059 Summing Mixer.
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This unit gives me Atmos management built-in, Dante, Thunderbolt 3 and large Analog outs via DB-25 in one unit for $6k. It allows real-time processing for 128 plugin real-time effects before hitting the CPU & RAM. And it gives me the power of being DAW agnostic--choose whatever one I want whether it be Cubase, Logic, Pro Tools, etc. I use Logic exclusively for now.
Spending thousands on iPads is not what studios will do. Apple is hoping to turn Swift's Playground into Logic/FCP playgrounds with iPad versions for mainly novices and kids.
At some point those kids will need a Mac to drive professional audio productions and then they'll spend fifty fold or more than they do with (high end iPad with FCP/LP) to get to that point, not just on Apple gear, but mostly on Audio Interfaces, Studio Monitors, Analog components, high end mics, amps, room treatments, etc.
This is Apple's gateway drug to vertical selling future higher end gear.
Yet, for those using professional versions of their products we already know Apple needs to make a Professional Audio Interface with FPGAs, DSPs, Neural Processors, but they know competing in this area is DOA for their investment return dollars.
Studios already use LP and FCP with MacBook Pros to edit remotely and on the go. No one in Hollywood is going to switch from their workflows to use these products. This is all about getting next generation children and more to be interested in film and audio production.
It's the reason I'm buying this after I just bought the Rupert Neve Designs 5059 Summing Mixer.
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This unit gives me Atmos management built-in, Dante, Thunderbolt 3 and large Analog outs via DB-25 in one unit for $6k. It allows real-time processing for 128 plugin real-time effects before hitting the CPU & RAM. And it gives me the power of being DAW agnostic--choose whatever one I want whether it be Cubase, Logic, Pro Tools, etc. I use Logic exclusively for now.
Spending thousands on iPads is not what studios will do. Apple is hoping to turn Swift's Playground into Logic/FCP playgrounds with iPad versions for mainly novices and kids.
At some point those kids will need a Mac to drive professional audio productions and then they'll spend fifty fold or more than they do with (high end iPad with FCP/LP) to get to that point, not just on Apple gear, but mostly on Audio Interfaces, Studio Monitors, Analog components, high end mics, amps, room treatments, etc.
This is Apple's gateway drug to vertical selling future higher end gear.
Yet, for those using professional versions of their products we already know Apple needs to make a Professional Audio Interface with FPGAs, DSPs, Neural Processors, but they know competing in this area is DOA for their investment return dollars.
Studios already use LP and FCP with MacBook Pros to edit remotely and on the go. No one in Hollywood is going to switch from their workflows to use these products. This is all about getting next generation children and more to be interested in film and audio production.
The compromise consists in its modularity. The Magic Keyboard is bad, the iPad cannot have running processes in the background. No way to use an iPad for server tasks. No way to scale an iPad with 32GB RAM and 4TB of storage. No way to use more than an app at the same time (please don't tell me about Stage Manager). The list goes on and on and on. The iPad is mainly for people between 7 and 25 years old. Everybody else who has used a real computer and understand how they work and know how to use it, would never go iPad.
My wife loves her iPad, but her technical knowledge is zero.
The iPad is a great device for non technical people. For techies and IT people the iPad is a toy. Sorry.
If you didn’t make any money with that software would you still be so excited about the subscription? Because guess what, people like me who use LP mainly for fun, do exist. But you’re right: I don’t need LP so I won’t get it on my ipad. The MacOS version (paid for once in 2013) will suffice.