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Apple Announces Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad With Subscription Models
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Not every Pro video or audio editing task involves sitting at a desk.
This thread is so long, but one interesting thing in the article is that it makes it seems that working on projects is one-way like how iMovie is on the iPad/iPhone because it says "users can export Final Cut Pro projects made on iPad to the Mac." Davinci Resolve is a two-way street. Projects can be opened on Mac, PC, or iPad at any given time. Having only a one-way path would turn me off from FCP on iPad.
Fair enough. I am not saying that the iPad versions will not be helpful in doing secondary tasks, but the whole hype is just too much. Let's be real and wait for a real review from someone that makes money from Pro Apps..
That would be really bad. Who would want to keep separate projects? That makes me think that the iPad versions will be really limited, which I understand of course..
Try again. The 11" iPad Pro weights 471 grams. or 1.03 lbs. The Magic Keyboard weights 601 grams, or 1.32 lbs. Together they weigh 1072 grams, or 2.36 lbs. The 13" MBA weighs 2.7 lbs. The 13" MBP weighs 3.0 lbs.
I frequently use it on the road (or toilet) to remote into client machines, admin servers, manage websites and a whole lot more.
When I'm at home it frees up my desktop machine from being cluttered up with email / videos calls etc. so I can focus on tasks best suited to my desktop environment.
If you think the iPad is a toy, you're either using it wrong and not seeing its potential or simply resist behavioral change.
This had me so excited... until subscription model. I've already purchased Logic twice on my desktop, and really don't want an annual payment model.
I guess I'll stick with GB on iPad and continue transferring and re-mixing on macOS
I guess I'll stick with GB on iPad and continue transferring and re-mixing on macOS
We wanted pro software, and we'll expect it get continuously updated, but we somehow expected all future development to be done for free. Do I understand you correctly?
I should have specified that I meant the 12.9” iPad Pro, which is heavier than MBA with the combo at around 1300g. If you go with the 11” you are also sacrificing a significant amount of screen real estate, thus a different compromise. The discontinued intel 11” MBA by the way, was only about 1080g. If Apple made one today they could probably make it much lighter, seeing that the 12” MB was 920g.
Why should I change the way I am using computers? I don't see any advantages in doing that. None at all. The iPad makes all tasks I need to complete on a computer much more complicated and cumbersome. Why would I want that? Please enlighten me.
The iPad is even for basic stuff not good enough. I am not using it wrong, I just have expectations from my devices. I want them to work. The iPad is the answer to a problem that doesn't exist.
I can write a thousand lines with the things I use my computers for, where the iPad is just not sufficient. Yes, somehow most of the tasks would work, but there is no benefit from using the iPad.
I wouldn't write my customer concept documents on an iPad. I have documents that are 200 pages long, with complex diagrams. Try using an iPad for that.
I wouldn't want to use an iPad to connect to my customer's VPN with a SmartCard. This isn't even possible on an iPad.
I wouldn't want to make my tax declaration on an iPad. The software on my Mac is just better.
I wouldn't want to use my iPad for Internet browsing. The Safari browser on the iPad is just not as good as its desktop variant.
I wouldn't want to use my Project Management Software (Jira, Planner, MS Project) on my iPad. The experience is just not good enough.
I could go on for hours.
I wouldn't write my customer concept documents on an iPad. I have documents that are 200 pages long, with complex diagrams. Try using an iPad for that.
I wouldn't want to use an iPad to connect to my customer's VPN with a SmartCard. This isn't even possible on an iPad.
I wouldn't want to make my tax declaration on an iPad. The software on my Mac is just better.
I wouldn't want to use my iPad for Internet browsing. The Safari browser on the iPad is just not as good as its desktop variant.
I wouldn't want to use my Project Management Software (Jira, Planner, MS Project) on my iPad. The experience is just not good enough.
I could go on for hours.
I’m not the biggest fan of subscriptions either, but this doesn’t necessarily have to be true. They could do it like Microsoft does it with the Office suite, and when your subscription runs out they could allow the programs to continue functioning but in read only mode - therefore giving you access to everything you’ve already made even when not paying.
And honestly I don’t really mind the subscription price, so long as it allows for more frequent, more stable and more feature packed updates. Any purchase in life can be broken down into monthly cost - e.g. my monthly cost of buying coffee because I enjoy drinking it most days. Coding features & updates requires real human work, just like producing coffee.
I do wonder if Logic Pro is going to have a way to workaround recording from multiple app sources (ZOOM, Skype, et al.) alongside a USB interfaces inputs. This is a major impediment for a lot of users who want to use the iPad as a mobile recording studio.
As an iPad fan definitely nice to see this happening.
Last few years were mostly Mac focused, but I always found the iPad has so much untapped potential, whereas the mac is much more mature.
I guess next few years it’ll be mostly spec bumps for the mac and some great development for the iPad, both hardware and software.
Last few years were mostly Mac focused, but I always found the iPad has so much untapped potential, whereas the mac is much more mature.
I guess next few years it’ll be mostly spec bumps for the mac and some great development for the iPad, both hardware and software.
In the last about 12 years Adobe has only added about 2 or 3 really decent features to Photoshop. Most of the other features they added were dumb.
So we've paid over $2000 in the last decade for 2 or 3 features.
New totally useful ideas can't come forever. At some point an app is good enough for everything and all it needs is to keep working well without breaking.
Companies chase profits like this when they know that room for growth and improvement is running out, but they need to keep revenue coming in for shareholders.
Either they break compatibility with old operating systems to keep people paying or they charge subscriptions.
This hurts most people over the long term.
If the subscription model needs fixing then it should be like this: the longer you are a member the lower the costs become. So the price for long term members comes down a few percent each year. If you unsubscribe the price resets.
Not necessarily 100%.. Final Cut Pro & Logic Pro remain on top as two of the most illegally downloaded apps on macOS, as they have been for many years now.
I imagine another reason of the subscription model being popular these days is its inherent ability to prevent piracy of the applications.
It's a tablet for a start with less memory and even thinner heat sink.
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Subscription models doesn’t really do much for curbing piracy if people want it enough. The Adobe CC apps has been continuously cracked and shared ever since they became subscriptions.
It’s the bane of SOME consumers, for sure. When one looks at the amount of money companies are making from subscriptions, though, it’s not enough consumers to prevent those companies from being able to support their continuing development activities.
All they have to do is make something that millions want to pay for on subscription, and they no longer have to care about the billions that DON’T want to pay for a subscription.
M1 iPads have the same exact memory options as M1 Macbooks, and the thermal performance is very close too.
Do the math. How much is an Apple One subscription per month and how much are these apps per month. There’s no way FCP or LP will be included.
You need to not subscribe otherwise your expensive "buy a Mac, but always get updates to your expensive software" will go away and you have to sub to the Desktop version as well.
TBH I would have loved to play with it a bit, but chances are that I would barely use it anyway. Pref desktop. As much as I like Luma Fussion 11 inch iPad is not the ideal size to edit HD/4k.
TBH I would have loved to play with it a bit, but chances are that I would barely use it anyway. Pref desktop. As much as I like Luma Fussion 11 inch iPad is not the ideal size to edit HD/4k.